Stevens has been tuned out!

[Donoghus]

Ya know the rumor that stevens can't coach the ego of the nba stars.

Coincidence that horford, hayward and kyrie aren't here.

$, $, & enigmatic.

[nickagneta]

Ya know the rumor that stevens can't coach the ego of the nba stars.

Coincidence that horford, hayward and kyrie aren't here.

$, $, & enigmatic.

Enigmatic...you're just a really nice guy, Dons, because I think 99.9% of this blog might have used a much more derogatory word. Lol.

[GreenEnvy]

He really has not done a bad job with what he got..Ainge on the other hand....

I’m not defending ainge because he sux at drafting, but ainge got him kyrie and horford, and brad did nothing.  There’s blame all around

We arguably overpaid for Horford, and then Philly definitely overpaid (more than we did), hence why they dumped him the first chance they got. I wouldn’t be surprised if he bounces around the league from here on out. He was more a piece to get Durant (close but no cigar) than he was an actual max player.

Kyrie was a smart move looking back on what happened to Isaiah. He sold high and brought in elite talent. Between the injuries to Hayward and Irving himself, Brad got the most out of role player replacements like Morris and Rozier (and accelerated the growth of Brown/Tatum). That caused unforeseen friction between the stars and the wannabes the following season that we obviously couldn’t recover from.

I don’t necessarily blame Brad or Danny for that eventual mess. This new one is quite different, and more on Danny I believe.

[GreenWarrior]

Ya know the rumor that stevens can't coach the ego of the nba stars.

Coincidence that horford, hayward and kyrie aren't here.

I don't know about Kyrie, but I suspect there are 109 million reasons why Horford isn't here, and 120 million reasons why Hayward isn't. But you could be right of course and maybe they thought Stevens wasn't respectful enough of their elite stature in the game.

I tend to believe there is more than something to this. It's why we brought evan turner in here.

So ainge knows there's something to it, the players definitely know there's something to it and the media definitely know there's something to it.

I'm personally embarrassed for this organization right now. We needed another coach for our head coach. There really just isn't good vibes around this team at all.

[pearljammer10]

He really has not done a bad job with what he got..Ainge on the other hand....

I’m not defending ainge because he sux at drafting, but ainge got him kyrie and horford, and brad did nothing.  There’s blame all around

Yeah, he's such a dumbass for drafting Brown and Tatum. What was he thinking?!

[pearljammer10]

In Brad Stevens' 7 years as Head Coach of the Celtics there is only one coach who has made more Conference Finals appearances than him: that is Steve Kerr (3 rings, 2 with KD, 3 with Curry, Klay, Dray).

Brad has been to three and that ties:

• Greg Poppovich (Duncan for 1 appearance, Leonard for 3 appearances)
• Tyronn Lue (LeBron for all three appearances)
• Eric Spolestra (Lebron for two appearances)
• and Frank Vogel (Lebron and AD for one appearance, Paul George for the other two)

In that time span Spolestra has gotten 2 rings, the others all got 1. Lebron was on 4 of those five teams and Leonard the other.

That is pretty dang good company considering what Brad has had to work with. He's never had a superstar of the level of any of the names listed above and he's still gotten there as many times.

[spikelovetheCelts]

In Brad Stevens' 7 years as Head Coach of the Celtics there is only one coach who has made more Conference Finals appearances than him: that is Steve Kerr (3 rings, 2 with KD, 3 with Curry, Klay, Dray).

Brad has been to three and that ties:

• Greg Poppovich (Duncan for 1 appearance, Leonard for 3 appearances)
• Tyronn Lue (LeBron for all three appearances)
• Eric Spolestra (Lebron for two appearances)
• and Frank Vogel (Lebron and AD for one appearance, Paul George for the other two)

In that time span Spolestra has gotten 2 rings, the others all got 1. Lebron was on 4 of those five teams and Leonard the other.

That is pretty dang good company considering what Brad has had to work with. He's never had a superstar of the level of any of the names listed above and he's still gotten there as many times.

I think Brad should get to finish this year for sure. When Smart gets back things will start moving in the right direction. I think Danny Knows it is on him to make the trade. But if the Nets get a center they will be hard to beat for anyone. Joel is playing on a whole  another level too.  Harden to Nets Changed the east.

[PhoSita]

Just get a new coach. This guy isn't working out at all with this team. Should have been fired after 2018 playoffs.

lol you think they should have fired him after they went 7 games against LeBron with Kyrie + Hayward sitting and a rookie as the team's leading scorer?



Can somebody give me some examples of when a team has really profited from firing the coach mid-season? 

Off the top of my head I can think of only one -- the 2006 Heat, who had Stan Van Gundy "resign" mid-way through (after a 15-12 start), then Pat Riley came down from the front office to coach the team to a title.

But the Heat already had a really great team in place.  They also had a GM who had coached multiple title teams already within the organization.  Doesn't seem like a good comparison.

[GreenWarrior]

I've never been a fan of the logic - there's no one better so don't fire this person.

Not letting someone go because it's the middle of the season is similar logic imo. If someone deserves to get fired then they need to go.

[PhoSita]

I've never been a fan of the logic - there's no one better so don't fire this person.

Not letting someone go because it's the middle of the season is similar logic imo. If someone deserves to get fired then they need to go.

The thing is "deserve" doesn't come into it.

The question is will it benefit the team or not.

The team isn't going to fire the coach because you feel he "deserves" it because you're frustrated or fed up with how the team is performing.

[Goldstar88]

First takes take on the C’s struggles. Interesting..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7had-C4uKgY

[#1P4P]

Brad raises a team’s floor. His teams have consistently outperformed expectations, averaged 50+ wins over the past 5 years, and been to 3 out of the last 4 Conference Finals despite roster change, injuries to key players and a myriad of issues. He has a lot of leeway with good reason, he’s been successful by every measure, but he has to improve and the 2 main areas are his 4th quarter offensive strategy and player rotations.

His inconsistent rotations stagnate chemistry and player development. High ceiling players like Rob Williams, Langford, Pritchard, and Nesmith should be given every chance to develop instead of these matchup-based and spot minute rotations.

His 4th quarter offensive strategy lacks tact and awareness. For example, the first Hawks game Trae Young is lighting it up and he talks about how he tried to throw different defenses at him instead of making him defend the ball handler by having his man set picks. I don’t care if it’s Trae Young or anyone else, having to check Tatum and/or Brown then make plays on offense is much more difficult than having him rest defending a spot up shooter before going on offense. The Raptors and Heat turned Kemba and his excellence in the clutch into a non-factor because they made him play defense on every play.

Without these adjustments, Brad is going to have to be bailed out by great play, which will serve as a mask to his tactical deficiencies.

[PhoSita]

His inconsistent rotations stagnate chemistry and player development. High ceiling players like Rob Williams, Langford, Pritchard, and Nesmith should be given every chance to develop instead of these matchup-based and spot minute rotations.

The inconsistent rotations are certainly frustrating to watch during the regular season, especially the earliest parts of the season.

Haven't we seen a lot of young guys develop and become useful players during Brad's tenure?  Brad certainly requires players to earn this playing time through defensive effort and discipline first and foremost.  I tend to think that's a good thing.  I know we all want to see Rob Williams play more but apart from health the main reason he hasn't played more is that he's just not a very disciplined or reliable defensive player.


What do you mean by "every chance to develop"?  Are you saying Brad should just earmark 15-20 minutes a night for guys that the team drafts with a 1st round pick? 

[Phantom255x]

Notice how when a team has a 20 point lead and they give up 5-6 quick points, coach calls TO.

Celtics have a 25 point lead, other team goes on a run but Brad will wait until they cut the actual deficit to 5-6 before calling a timeout 

I mean does this guy seriously think it's like PTO days in an office setting or something where it can rollover into next year if you have leftovers??

[Ogaju]

First takes take on the C’s struggles. Interesting..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7had-C4uKgY

what the man said.