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Would You Trade Our Kanter TPE and 2021 1st for Josh Jackson?
« on: February 11, 2021, 09:15:02 PM »

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Cannot do it until March 1st:

https://tradenba.com/trades/LJcMcf_Q2

Just turned 24 yesterday, he’s now averaging 12.3 PPG and has really improved his defensive game. Cost-controlled this year and next at about $5 million/year:

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson

If you do not think this is possible, what kind of player do you think we can get for the Kanter TPE with our 2021 1st?

Discuss.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2021, 10:37:32 PM by GreenlyGreeny »

Re: Would You Trade Our Kanter TPE and 2021 1st for Josh Jackson?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2021, 09:20:38 PM »

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Why would Detroit do that? Seriously?

This isn't 2k where teams just give up cost controlled players/assets because we want them.
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Re: Would You Trade Our Kanter TPE and 2021 1st for Josh Jackson?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2021, 09:24:10 PM »

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Why would Detroit do that? Seriously?

This isn't 2k where teams just give up cost controlled players/assets because we want them.

We’re a .500 team. The way things are going, we as likely to be the 10th overall pick as the 20th overall pick. In a very deep draft. And Detroit has no hopes of the playoffs. I can see them biting.

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Why would Detroit do that? Seriously?

This isn't 2k where teams just give up cost controlled players/assets because we want them.

We’re a .500 team. The way things are going, we as likely to be the 10th overall pick as the 20th overall pick. In a very deep draft. And Detroit has no hopes of the playoffs. I can see them biting.

Sure, I'll play in la la land for a minute.

If you're Detroit and you look at the Celtics, a team that isn't meeting their full potential. So give them a player that will help them improve, thereby lessening the likelihood that the single asset they're getting back in the deal isn't as high as a pick as it could be.

Once you start to apply some basic level common sense to it, it fails to make sense for Detroit.
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Re: Would You Trade Our Kanter TPE and 2021 1st for Josh Jackson?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2021, 10:09:50 PM »

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No brainer.

Unfortunately the time to strike on Jackson was last off season, but Danny didn't listen to me. >:(

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2021, 10:16:07 PM »

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Cannot do it until March 1st:

https://tradenba.com/trades/LJcMcf_Q2

Just turned 24 yesterday, he’s now averaging 12.3 PPG and has really improved his defensive game. Cost-controlled this year and next at about $5 million/year:

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson

Discuss.

When you come up with a trade proposal, ask yourself this.... does this trade have equal value for the teams involved? Does it make sense for both sides? If not, don’t post it, lol.
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Re: Would You Trade Our Kanter TPE and 2021 1st for Josh Jackson?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2021, 10:31:58 PM »

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Cannot do it until March 1st:

https://tradenba.com/trades/LJcMcf_Q2

Just turned 24 yesterday, he’s now averaging 12.3 PPG and has really improved his defensive game. Cost-controlled this year and next at about $5 million/year:

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson

Discuss.

When you come up with a trade proposal, ask yourself this.... does this trade have equal value for the teams involved? Does it make sense for both sides? If not, don’t post it, lol.

Would you trade Pritchard for Jackson? I would not, but Pritchard was a late 1st last year and who’s to say our 2021 1st, which is a deep draft, cannot produce a better prospect than Jackson? That’s why I’m not sure they would not bite. It’s not like Jackson is blowing everybody away. He’s proving to be a decent starter finally, but he might never be anything more than that, let alone a player worthy of fourth overall (i.e., he was definitely a bust for Phoenix, but he’s clearly not going to bust himself out of the league anytime soon). An atrocious team like the Pistons may just tear down the whole house and rebuild. They might consider themselves lucky to turn a signing into a first-round pick. Who knows?

In any case, curious what kind of deals might be out there right now for the Kanter TPE plus our first...

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 11:05:31 AM »

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I’m surprised by how many people think that Detroit would reject this immediately.

Jackson is an inefficient bench player with a poor outside shot.  He’s pretty much the same player he was as a rookie.


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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2021, 12:08:24 PM »

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Once you start to apply some basic level common sense to it, it fails to make sense for Detroit.

Detroit seems to enjoy making moves that fail to make sense for Detroit.


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Reports out there that OKC , DET and CLE are open for business. It would make sense that pistons are open to trading JJ for a first round pick. I can see him going to Philly. Philly and Detroit were part of trades this offseason so they probably have established relationship and morrey will be looking to trade their pick. They also might try to dump salary so we can come in as a third team and get Bradley for instance to be a back up center.
 I don’t see the point for us as he won’t be getting playing time over the Js (despite being a J too lol).

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2021, 01:39:06 PM »

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Reports out there that OKC , DET and CLE are open for business. It would make sense that pistons are open to trading JJ for a first round pick. I can see him going to Philly. Philly and Detroit were part of trades this offseason so they probably have established relationship and morrey will be looking to trade their pick. They also might try to dump salary so we can come in as a third team and get Bradley for instance to be a back up center.
 I don’t see the point for us as he won’t be getting playing time over the Js (despite being a J too lol).

The report on Detroit was that they're open to trading anyone other than their young prospects which is pretty much code for "will someone please take Blake Griffin?"

I’m surprised by how many people think that Detroit would reject this immediately.

Jackson is an inefficient bench player with a poor outside shot.  He’s pretty much the same player he was as a rookie.

To be clear, I don't think he's untouchable by an means. But Detroit needs cheap, young talent and he's been a bright spot for them. I don't believe a FRP that's likely going to end up in the 20's would move them much.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2021, 01:55:29 PM »

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I’m surprised by how many people think that Detroit would reject this immediately.

Jackson is an inefficient bench player with a poor outside shot.  He’s pretty much the same player he was as a rookie.

Really? I check his box scores, and he seems to be playing a lot better this season. I think his trajectory is looking pretty good. Are you saying that because you think a deal could be made, or that you have no interest in him, or both?

I stand corrected; his shooting percentages are pretty bad this season.  Still, I'd make a play for him if the price is right.

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I’m surprised by how many people think that Detroit would reject this immediately.

Jackson is an inefficient bench player with a poor outside shot.  He’s pretty much the same player he was as a rookie.

Really? I check his box scores, and he seems to be playing a lot better this season. I think his trajectory is looking pretty good. Are you saying that because you think a deal could be made, or that you have no interest in him, or both?

I stand corrected; his shooting percentages are pretty bad this season.  Still, I'd make a play for him if the price is right.

Look at his rate stats.  They’re pretty consistent the last four years.

I think that Detroit would probably take a number one. I don’t think we should offer one here, because I think that our number ones could be more valuably spent.


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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2021, 02:57:21 PM »

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i'd rather develop Romeo and keep our picks for someone better. Jackson still has upside, and could be a good value down the road, but it's hard to see him getting enough important minutes to justify spending assets on him for this particular team. We already have Smart as a defensive hustler, and the Jays as 2-way wings at the end of games. Jackson would basically be a better version of Javonte Green.

The benefit just doesn't seem to be there, especially as Romeo might finally be getting healthy and need the minutes so we can see what we have. If we're going to spend any of our pucks, I want it to be for someone who can play at the end of games.

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An inefficient guy who chucks shots and isn't even an above average defender? Not to mention he gets more turnovers than assists and is foul prone. Pass.

Detroit also pass though, I imagine.

I would much rather use the pick on a veteran, or pick a player like Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Jalen Johnson or Corey Kispert
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