How To Make A Harrison Barnes Trade Work?

[Roy H.]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

[Roy H.]

Thompson + Edwards + #1

for

Barnes + Whiteside?

[hwangjini_1]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

paypal???         

[Tr1boy]

Thompson + Edwards + #1

for

Barnes + Whiteside?

Not enough

It will take similar to Holiday return

[bdm860]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

The luxury tax is $132.627m, but the apron is $138.928m.

It's the apron the C's need to stay under not the tax level, right?  So that's ~$6m less you have to worry about.

-Edit, forget it, I think I misunderstood.  The goal is to stay under the tax to avoid the repeater tax.  While the C's could go up to the apron, it would be very expensive due to the repeater tax so not something they would want to do even though they could.

[Roy H.]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

The luxury tax is $132.627m, but the apron is $138.928m.

It's the apron the C's need to stay under not the tax level, right?  So that's ~$6m less you have to worry about.

The apron is the hard cap, but staying below the luxury tax is extremely important to reset the repeater tax.

[NKY fan]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

Celtics salary I’m calculating from spotrac.com is $116.9M not 118.
That gives us $15.7M of additional salary we can get without hiting the tax and almost $22M additional salary max allowed because of hard cap constraint. In theory we can get Barnes just for Carsen

[Roy H.]

Thompson + Edwards + #1

for

Barnes + Whiteside?

Not enough

It will take similar to Holiday return

You think Harrison Barnes is worth the equivalent of Bledsoe, Hill and three firsts and two pick swaps?

What universe are we living in?

[bdm860]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

The luxury tax is $132.627m, but the apron is $138.928m.

It's the apron the C's need to stay under not the tax level, right?  So that's ~$6m less you have to worry about.

The apron is the hard cap, but staying below the luxury tax is extremely important to reset the repeater tax.

Ha ya that dawned on me after I already posted.  Not a question of if they could go over the tax (they can), but if they want to (they don't).

[GreenlyGreeny]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

Dump Teague, Green, Edwards and Theis to whomever for heavily protected 2nds, unprotected 2nd for Theis. Trade with teams that have TPEs. Send Theis to a championship contender in the west. Immediately package those picks, our TPE and another pick or two in exchange for Barnes (preferably without losing a 1st). Move Tacko and Waters onto the roster at the minimum, and add a vet at the minimum so we have 14 players.

Would suck to lose Theis, but Barnes is a lot better. Barnes is definitely the best potentially available player in exchange for the TPE and picks.

[hpantazo]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

Dump Teague, Green, Edwards and Theis to whomever for heavily protected 2nds, unprotected 2nd for Theis. Trade with teams that have TPEs. Send Theis to a championship contender in the west. Immediately package those picks, our TPE and another pick or two in exchange for Barnes (preferably without losing a 1st). Move Tacko and Waters onto the roster at the minimum, and add a vet at the minimum so we have 14 players.

Would suck to lose Theis, but Barnes is a lot better. Barnes is definitely the best potentially available player in exchange for the TPE and picks.

Theis has been our best big all season long and the only one of them that can hit a three and move quickly and correctly on switches. I wouldn't trade him.

[keevsnick]

Its not really that hard. The deal would be:

Thompson (9.26 M) + One Young Player + whatever draft compensation.

That opens up a roster spot you can then use to sign a cheaper third string Center (you can also play G Will at small ball five) and should allow you to stay under he tax. You have the BAE so you can actually offered someone more than the minimum if you think they're worth it.

Obviously quite a lot of negotiation goes into which young guy you give up and what the draft compensation is. I'd be fine trading one of Langford/Nesmith + a first for a guy which 2.5 years left. If SAC views Thompsons contract as a negative it may take more.

[gouki88]

Would be all for Thompson + Edwards + a top 20 protected pick for Barnes. Not too sure I would want Whiteside, but as a 3rd stringer he'd be okay. Not sure his worth when he's a bit of a headcase - could just add some veteran big like Mahinmi or Henson, or go the D-League route and get an Amile Jefferson-type. None with the ability of Whiteside, but also far less concerns - probably the route I'd want to go with our 3rd string big.

Either way, I'd be down for this.

[gouki88]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

Dump Teague, Green, Edwards and Theis to whomever for heavily protected 2nds, unprotected 2nd for Theis. Trade with teams that have TPEs. Send Theis to a championship contender in the west. Immediately package those picks, our TPE and another pick or two in exchange for Barnes (preferably without losing a 1st). Move Tacko and Waters onto the roster at the minimum, and add a vet at the minimum so we have 14 players.

Would suck to lose Theis, but Barnes is a lot better. Barnes is definitely the best potentially available player in exchange for the TPE and picks.

Why on earth are we 'dumping' Theis for nothing??

[colincb]

The goal:  trade for Harrison Barnes while staying under the $132.627 million luxury tax.

Current Celtics salary: $118,253,678

Current Barnes salary: $22,215,909

If my math is correct, that leaves us needing to send out at least $7,842,587 in salary to fit Barnes.

What’s our best option?

Keith Smith has our total for luxury tax at $119.327,015 and luxury tax room at $13,299,985 as of 1/24.
That would require a dump of at least $8,915,924. The luxury tax calculation is more than just team salaries.

I don't see SAC dumping Barnes for a single late 1st.