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Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« on: January 03, 2021, 10:21:06 PM »

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Letís say weíre at the deadline and clearly the team is faltering with the only silver lining being that JB is clearly the future of the franchise rather than Tatum as we all expected (look at Tatumís pass to JB when the pressure was on rather than risking missing a game winning shot opportunity against the Pistons back-to-back...JB nailed it and then with no real pressure Tatum took a shot knowing a tie was the worst that could happen...JB is clearly the alpha now and Tatum is the pretender).

Would you be open to the following trade, and spending next offseason trying to find a number three guy to pair with JB and Doncic:

https://tradenba.com/trades/wTjFdoPq1

To DAL:

Tatum
Smart
Ď21 BOS 1st
Ď23 BOS 1st
Ď25 BOS 1st
Ď21 DAL 1st (Via NYK)

To NYK:

Walker

To BOS:

Doncic (perhaps has some sort of issue with living in Dallas)
Hardaway Jr. (expiring contract, perhaps theyíve told Dallas theyíre leaving)
Johnson (expiring contract, perhaps theyíve told Dallas theyíre leaving)
Ntilikina (expiring contract, to make dollars work with NYK)
Tyrell Terry (make the cap work)
Get down to 15 men by moving a couple cheap contracts for absurdly protected 2nds and/or seeing if Miami/Warriors would make a deal for Hardaway

Obvious next move: Re-sign Doncic to the max, and he probably insists on a no trade-clause. We would go into the 2022 offseason with Doncic on the last year of his rookie contract and following guaranteed contracts (we could literally opt out of all other rookie contracts if we wanted to save space):

JB
TT
Pritchard
Nesmith

In other words, with JB and Doncic as our superstar duo, we have cap room to build a big three if we stick with the young kids and sign a bunch of one-year contracts, thereby leaving us with only JB and Doncic on the books come 2022 off-season (and probably Pritchard, maybe Nesmith). If Kawhi opts out in 2021, you still have that option in 2021, but otherwise it probably makes more sense to be patient for 2022 with these potential options:

Kawhi
Harden
Durant
Steph Curry
Butler
Beal

If we skip on a major free agent in 2021 and 2022 while still maintaining flexibility going into 2023, here are potential options that offseason:

Jokic
Harden
Durant
Butler
Beal
Porzingis

I donít know about you guys, but this route sounds better to me than being restricted by JBís and Tatumís contracts next off-season (and continuing to be stuck with the Kemba albatross...gotta somehow move him home to the Knicks).
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Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2021, 10:26:52 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2021, 10:31:23 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Yep. I donít think a team that struggles against the 2020-2021 Pistons is a serious contender. And weíre out of most assets other than Tatum and JB, so yes Iíd like to blow it up if we do not progress by the deadline, and start all over again. Itís been almost 8 years since the last rebuild and if the result is being a borderline playoff team, I think itís pretty obvious what has to happen (i.e., Danny needs to go and we need to choose JB or Tatum as we rebuildóif we can turn our last assets into Doncic while maintaining JB and cap flexibility for a marquee free agent, a real Big 3, heck yeah Iím all over that)

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2021, 10:36:22 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Yep. I donít think a team that struggles against the 2020-2021 Pistons is a serious contender. And weíre out of assets other than Tatum and JB, so yes Iíd like to blow it up and start all over again. Itís been almost 8 years since the last rebuild.

how about a team that struggles against washington, memphis, and charlotte?

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2021, 10:40:29 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Yep. I donít think a team that struggles against the 2020-2021 Pistons is a serious contender. And weíre out of assets other than Tatum and JB, so yes Iíd like to blow it up and start all over again. Itís been almost 8 years since the last rebuild.

how about a team that struggles against washington, memphis, and charlotte?

Certainly sounds like our future if we maintain the status quo.

Unlike us, Doncic and Co. have beat the Heat and the Clippers. If not for our win over the Bucks, Iíd have stomach ulcers right now.

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2021, 10:50:15 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Yep. I donít think a team that struggles against the 2020-2021 Pistons is a serious contender. And weíre out of assets other than Tatum and JB, so yes Iíd like to blow it up and start all over again. Itís been almost 8 years since the last rebuild.

how about a team that struggles against washington, memphis, and charlotte?

Certainly sounds like our future if we maintain the status quo.

Unlike us, Doncic and Co. have beat the Heat and the Clippers. If not for our win over the Bucks, Iíd have stomach ulcers right now.

well then the nets should blow it up, they didn't just struggle though, they lost

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2021, 10:57:10 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Yep. I donít think a team that struggles against the 2020-2021 Pistons is a serious contender. And weíre out of assets other than Tatum and JB, so yes Iíd like to blow it up and start all over again. Itís been almost 8 years since the last rebuild.

how about a team that struggles against washington, memphis, and charlotte?

Certainly sounds like our future if we maintain the status quo.

Unlike us, Doncic and Co. have beat the Heat and the Clippers. If not for our win over the Bucks, Iíd have stomach ulcers right now.

well then the nets should blow it up, they didn't just struggle though, they lost

Weíre 1-1 against the Pistons and lost 3 of 4 quarters against them tonight. Itís utterly embarrassing. Folks are dreaming if they think weíre going anywhere this year.

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2021, 11:13:35 PM »

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yet another "blow it all up and give away everything" trade idea from you.  how unimaginative.  ::)

Yep. I donít think a team that struggles against the 2020-2021 Pistons is a serious contender. And weíre out of most assets other than Tatum and JB, so yes Iíd like to blow it up if we do not progress by the deadline, and start all over again. Itís been almost 8 years since the last rebuild and if the result is being a borderline playoff team, I think itís pretty obvious what has to happen (i.e., Danny needs to go and we need to choose JB or Tatum as we rebuildóif we can turn our last assets into Doncic while maintaining JB and cap flexibility for a marquee free agent, a real Big 3, heck yeah Iím all over that)
well then don't strain yourself putting any thought into anything then because every team struggles.  EVERY TEAM. 

The team has got 2 fantastic building blocks for a good run.  Kemba and Smart make for good complimentary players.

Unfortunately, despite all of Danny's wheeling and dealing, he did not maximize the assets he acquired (principally, the draft picks he either had to use on draft and stash players or basically gave away for lesser assets) and we're not in a better position than we are now.  Didn't help that Hayward bailed for more money instead of wanting to stay and play on a contender (if he resigns with us, we're definitely in the contention discussion). 

You're not going to wheel and deal this team into a contender by getting rid of Tatum or Brown.  If you want to contend, you add to them.

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2021, 11:15:00 PM »

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Losing one game to an inferior team is something that happens to every team lol.
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Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2021, 11:17:03 PM »

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I love these type of threads.

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2021, 11:24:06 PM »

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Cuban is not trading Doncic. Next!!

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2021, 11:30:34 PM »

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Just three months ago this same team led by Tatum did very well in the playoffs while Tatum played like an MVP candidate.  I donít understand how many people here have forgotten this.  Iím going to start posting this video in various threads.

https://youtu.be/C6ufImch00g

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2021, 11:37:43 PM »

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Just three months ago this same team led by Tatum did very well in the playoffs while Tatum played like an MVP candidate.  I donít understand how many people here have forgotten this.  Iím going to start posting this video in various threads.

https://youtu.be/C6ufImch00g

Itís not the same team. Kemba might be toast and Gordo is gonzo.

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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2021, 11:39:17 PM »

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Doncic 1st needs to layoff the hot dogs and beers

He is chubby at the moment

Re: Rebuild Idea: Trade Tatum/Smart for Doncic?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2021, 11:46:41 PM »

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Cuban is not trading Doncic. Next!!

For four first-round picks, Tatum maxed out, and Smart (TX native son), he might listen, particularly if Doncic decides to make it clear that he doesnít want to be in Dallas forever and could pull the stunt of signing a one year offer in RFA that Dallas has to match, thereby making Doncic an UFA before heís 25 years old (and basically forcing Dallas to trade him after just two more seasons).

If youíre Doncic, you want to be in one of the basketball meccas, not Dallas. What European really wants to be in Dallas, anyway? Dirk stayed because he could only ever get max deals there, or the other places he could were no better than Dallas. As we know, Doncic is in another league compared to Dirk.

When youíre the best or second best player in the league, which Doncic will be in 2-3 years, Boston or LA always makes the most sense in the NBA unless youíre from another American city, which Doncic is not. I really do believe we could have him someday...
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