Early conclusions

[Rikibellevie]

So as a vibrant homage to all the early wind  talkers (mostly negativ), I propose to post our early conclusions, because even so early in the season, there is evidence you cannot contest ! 

For the C's 
_ JT isn't a true leader and will never be. Our true leader is Brown but Stevens don't unerstand it
_ PP IS the next Van Vleet at very least. But he has more of an IT potential with more grit or KI wwith less flat. He will turn all star probably next year and will push Kemba to go away this year
_ Grant Williams isn't an NBA player. We wanted to convince ourself last year he was a very usefull high IQ player, but, even if he is mart, it is more on a scienific job than a sportiv one. Probably join next year NASA to work with his mother
_ Theis was an illusion and will play next year in german B league. With his great grit I see him either in the Kircheim Knights or in the Tigers of Paderborn. Oh and I see there is a team in Jena which is called Science City BB. So maybe Grant could continue his BB career afterall.
_ CBS is more of a college coach; we have to replace him sooner than later. Kenny Atkinson would do much better.
_ TT was the missing link
_ Kemba is cooked like chief Curry

For the rest of the league
_ Lakers lost their grit last year final and won't ever be again the same team.
_ Same observation for the Nuggets, but more : Murray was a playoff/bubble illusion
_ Denver, Toronto and Miami won't go to PO. Maybe Bucks either.
_ Hawks and Suns are contenders this year
_ Magics and Sacto will pass a big gap this year and have homecourt advantage

So your thoughts ?? 

[jambr380]

- JT is only 22 and has plenty of time to grow into a leader.
- Love Pritchard so far, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves w/ better version of IT comparisons.
- Grant isn't a starter, but can be trusted to do the right things on offense/defense. Just in his 2nd year.
-Theis was fantastic all year last year. He just isn't as effective in two-big line-ups...yet.
-Stevens is pretty well established as one of the top 5-6 coaches in the NBA.
-TT does add a needed dimension to our team, but even has his limitations. Glad to have him on board.
-Cs are being extremely cautious with Kemba. Even in the bubble when he was clearly hobbled, he was a 20/5/4 guy with teams focusing their defense (box-and-1) specifically on him. He is much needed and didn't get 'worse' with rest.

Edit: I did notice some sarcastic elements to your post, but didn't realize the whole thing was meant to be that way. Obviously I didn't read your 1st sentence. There are so many haters around the internet that sometimes I just go on defensive remote control. TP for the misunderstanding.

[Rikibellevie]

But, my friend... it was a sarcastic post ! Sometimes kind of humour doesn't cross well the borders I guess! My post was about overeactions... If I really thought this I should go see a psy cause I am always calming down early conclusions and try to stay positiv (even treaten by some to be a rah rah poster ). For the rest I am 100% agree with what you say (maybe not about Theis being fantastic or just if you talk about what was our expectations -but I am sure he won't play for the Paderborn tigers  )

[SHAQATTACK]

The big contract for Kemba and his current injury status is a hard pill to,swallow , after three years of continuous hurt Hayward , very little bang for the buck , it hard to see the team pushing ahead of last year.  So much rides on your big contract players being on the court.

Ths team is desperate missing Kembas scoring and floor game . 

[CFAN38]

But, my friend... it was a sarcastic post ! Sometimes kind of humour doesn't cross well the borders I guess! My post was about overeactions... If I really thought this I should go see a psy cause I am always calming down early conclusions and try to stay positiv (even treaten by some to be a rah rah poster ). For the rest I am 100% agree with what you say (maybe not about Theis being fantastic or just if you talk about what was our expectations -but I am sure he won't play for the Paderborn tigers  )

may have been a sarcastic post but I do think these first few games have shown us a few things.


- Brown looks to be making a strong case to joint Tatum at this years all star game
- Pritchard looks to be a really nice fit for this roster and is a play im excited to see as the backup PG for years to come
- Theis is likely odd man out for the bigs, he is a FA after this season and the Cs are probably best served trading him.
- This team needs wing depth and that should be the Target of a Theis trade
- Barring a trade the Cs will need real production out of Langford when healthy
- R Williams looks to be ready to consistently backup Thompson

[Somebody]

But, my friend... it was a sarcastic post ! Sometimes kind of humour doesn't cross well the borders I guess! My post was about overeactions... If I really thought this I should go see a psy cause I am always calming down early conclusions and try to stay positiv (even treaten by some to be a rah rah poster ). For the rest I am 100% agree with what you say (maybe not about Theis being fantastic or just if you talk about what was our expectations -but I am sure he won't play for the Paderborn tigers  )

I immediately understood your attempt at sarcastic humour and it was crap - no one ever uttered that ludicrous alpha/leader talk regarding Tatum and Brown, we were pointing out that Jaylen's improvement this season might have catapulted him into that fringe All-NBA band alongside Tatum, but Stevens simply refuses to give him an extended run as the focal point of our attack in key situations even when Tatum is struggling or not on the court.

Other points sound taken out of context as well, but I wasn't part of those discussions so I'll refrain from talking about them too much.

[Who]

_ PP IS the next Van Vleet at very least. But he has more of an IT potential with more grit or KI wwith less flat. He will turn all star probably next year and will push Kemba to go away this year

I do not see Pritchard as an All-Star in the near future but I do see him as a good starter in the near future. Does that make Kemba expendable? Yes, I think so.

If you could trade Kemba for an upgrade elsewhere and have Pritchard slot in as the new starting PG, that could improve the team. So yes I do view Kemba as expendable here.

I'd love to see us land an upgrade 2-4. Or even a center. Somewhere. Kemba is a very good player. He could net us a very good player at another position and the team could be better off.

[pearljammer10]

_ PP IS the next Van Vleet at very least. But he has more of an IT potential with more grit or KI wwith less flat. He will turn all star probably next year and will push Kemba to go away this year

I do not see Pritchard as an All-Star in the near future but I do see him as a good starter in the near future. Does that make Kemba expendable? Yes, I think so.

If you could trade Kemba for an upgrade elsewhere and have Pritchard slot in as the new starting PG, that could improve the team. So yes I do view Kemba as expendable here.

I'd love to see us land an upgrade 2-4. Or even a center. Somewhere. Kemba is a very good player. He could net us a very good player at another position and the team could be better off.

I think a more realistic option is that Pritchard takes the keys after Kembas contract expires.

I don’t see Pritchard as a starting PG though. More likely a first guard off the bench

[Rikibellevie]

I immediately understood your attempt at sarcastic humour and it was crap

My humour was maybe bad on the turning but I hadn't any bad intensions. Just exagerating some early analysis, cause each year (ad it is normal) many people overact.  I guess noone can complain another to miss a joke without bad intention (and on my english crap isn't a very correct word).  And I see nice remarks from others there so it wasn't a waisted post.

[BMark]

1.  PP should start with Smart, JB, JT and TT.

2.  This two big lineup will not work.  It is unfair to Theis.

3.  While we await the return of Kemba, I think Javonte should get more burn.

4. Timelord should be force fed more minutes so that he can learn from his mistakes.

5.  Nesmith should get some first half minutes over the next three games against weaker competition to see what he's got.

[Tr1boy]

One thing is for sure.  Love what I saw from

Timelord
Brown/Tatum
Green
Pritchard

lineup

the defense was rock solid.  And offense was buzzing with Pritchard playing chess on the court.  The easy options to Timelord was really good to see.  Reminded me of how the Heat did that to the Celts last season. With Butler, Herro or Dragic dumping it/alley lobs to Bam whenever there was nothing to work with

[PAOBoston]

I like what Pritchard has done so far but I think people need to pump the breaks on the expectations. He’s had like 2 nice games. If he turns out to be Cs version of Barea (savvy backup guard who is always solid but has certain limitations), it’s a big win for the Cs.

[keevsnick]

-Brown will be an all star unless we suck so badly we don't get two.

-Pritchard will be a valuable rotation player.

-This two big lineup inst going to work.

-Rob Williams will make an impact, could be the starting center by the end of the year.

-Teague may we washed, too soon to say for sure but his offense is 90% floaters.

[knuckleballer]

-Brown will be an all star unless we suck so badly we don't get two.

-Pritchard will be a valuable rotation player.

-This two big lineup inst going to work.

-Rob Williams will make an impact, could be the starting center by the end of the year.

-Teague may we washed, too soon to say for sure but his offense is 90% floaters.

Theis looks totally out of sorts.  He’s not a power forward.  He’s a center in today’s game, despite being a bit short for the position.  Playing him and TT simultaneously isn’t working and is hurting his game.   

[CFAN38]

I like what Pritchard has done so far but I think people need to pump the breaks on the expectations. He’s had like 2 nice games. If he turns out to be Cs version of Barea (savvy backup guard who is always solid but has certain limitations), it’s a big win for the Cs.

I like the Barea comp. Predraft I liked Payton but felt he wasn’t worth a 1st round pick because his physical profile will limit him to a backup role. I still feel that is true but will be thrilled to see him become a Barea like 10+ppg 20min+ 6thman/ backup pg. His creation off the bench could be a very nice tool in the playoffs