Tatum ball stopping ways is not healthy basketball

[gouki88]

Who needs ball stopping Harden, we already have him, LOL.

Harden, the guy who has an MVP and has a claim to two more? I wish we had someone that talented

Trade Tatum if you want him so badly.

Pretty sure his Poison Pill Provision makes it near impossible, otherwise I would drive him to the airport

Of course you would considering you're panicking.

Please do tell me more about your insights into how I'm feeling!

Maybe, just maybe, people can come to different conclusions to you without it being irrational. Has this ever occurred to you?

I'm not a huge tatum fan either.  I would think about doing a trade like this one

https://tradenba.com/trades/oVajIh3EW

Trade tatum walker and timelord for harden and wood, sign IT for bench scoring.

Harden smart brown wood thompson with IT teague theis osman off bench

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to somehow nab Wood alongside Harden.

But I can't see Cleveland wanting Kemba. Darius Garland is averaging 19/8/4 on super efficient shooting, and Sexton is averaging 27/4/3 on even crazier efficiency. The Cavs are also undefeated this year with their star guard duo. Tough sell

[Humble G]

The Cavs duo is based on a small sample of games so far. Will be interesting to see how they continue to play. Living in ohio all I hear about Cavs is how they hate their draft picks especially sexton but that was last year lol kemba love drummond is interesting trio tho and could flip sexton garland while they look good?

[gouki88]

The Cavs duo is based on a small sample of games so far. Will be interesting to see how they continue to play. Living in ohio all I hear about Cavs is how they hate their draft picks especially sexton but that was last year lol kemba love drummond is interesting trio tho and could flip sexton garland while they look good?

It would be crazily aggressive for the Cavs to flip those two to try and cash in on competing now. Not sure who they could try and nab to even do that.

Also doubt they want to. Their guards are cost-controlled and looking promising

[Humble G]

The Cavs duo is based on a small sample of games so far. Will be interesting to see how they continue to play. Living in ohio all I hear about Cavs is how they hate their draft picks especially sexton but that was last year lol kemba love drummond is interesting trio tho and could flip sexton garland while they look good?

It would be crazily aggressive for the Cavs to flip those two to try and cash in on competing now. Not sure who they could try and nab to even do that.

Also doubt they want to. Their guards are cost-controlled and looking promising

Yea not sure. It's hard to say what the Cavs  want to do. They wouldn't havel to flip both either could keep one....when healthy kemba is a proven all star which cleveland has a hard time attracting. But if garland or sexton or both keep it up they won't need walker ... So I hear ya

[mr. dee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPJjGC6WSVE

Watch how decisive Jaylen with the ball. He makes quick reads that leads into easy buckets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGzrAlvIz1I

Compare it to Tatum who dribbles too much of a possession before attacking, only to take some contested shots, instead of scanning for cuts or open shooters.

[Somebody]

Who needs ball stopping Harden, we already have him, LOL.

Harden, the guy who has an MVP and has a claim to two more? I wish we had someone that talented

Trade Tatum if you want him so badly.

Pretty sure his Poison Pill Provision makes it near impossible, otherwise I would drive him to the airport

Of course you would considering you're panicking.

Please do tell me more about your insights into how I'm feeling!

Maybe, just maybe, people can come to different conclusions to you without it being irrational. Has this ever occurred to you?

Obviously not! How can you criticise our Messiah

[Tr1boy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPJjGC6WSVE

Watch how decisive Jaylen with the ball. He makes quick reads that leads into easy buckets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGzrAlvIz1I

Compare it to Tatum who dribbles too much of a possession before attacking, only to take some contested shots, instead of scanning for cuts or open shooters.

Tatum has Hardenism

-Open shot is not fun. Must embarrass my defender-

[LilRip]

Unpopular but I like how Tatum plays for the first 3 quarters. It’s when he reverts to hero ball in the 4th that has me scratching my head.

On Harden: if Tatum can draw fouls like harden, I’d be pretty happy. Right now, Tatum’s closer to Kyrie than he is Harden.

[Somebody]

Unpopular but I like how Tatum plays for the first 3 quarters. It’s when he reverts to hero ball in the 4th that has me scratching my head.

On Harden: if Tatum can draw fouls like harden, I’d be pretty happy. Right now, Tatum’s closer to Kyrie than he is Harden.

How is that take unpopular? Most of the criticism levied at him is about his play in crunch time. And yeah he's more of a fringe All-NBA guy right now.

[jambr380]

Unpopular but I like how Tatum plays for the first 3 quarters. It’s when he reverts to hero ball in the 4th that has me scratching my head.

On Harden: if Tatum can draw fouls like harden, I’d be pretty happy. Right now, Tatum’s closer to Kyrie than he is Harden.

How is that take unpopular? Most of the criticism levied at him is about his play in crunch time. And yeah he's more of a fringe All-NBA guy right now.

That fringe part is going to make a big difference in his next contract. I'll gladly take him catapulting up to All-NBA 1st or 2nd Team, but would rather he just get left off the 3rd Team if it's close. It's a $30M savings.

[Moranis]

The Cavs duo is based on a small sample of games so far. Will be interesting to see how they continue to play. Living in ohio all I hear about Cavs is how they hate their draft picks especially sexton but that was last year lol kemba love drummond is interesting trio tho and could flip sexton garland while they look good?

The Cavs don't hate their draft picks at all.  They are poor defensively, but have immense offensive talent. 

That said, if Kemba cost them Cedi and Exum, they might very well do that even with the young guys playing so well.  That is a huge talent upgrade.  They'd probably try to flip Kemba elsewhere at some point as they are bought in to Sexton and Garland, but it is hard to turn down big talent upgrades.

[Humble G]

The Cavs duo is based on a small sample of games so far. Will be interesting to see how they continue to play. Living in ohio all I hear about Cavs is how they hate their draft picks especially sexton but that was last year lol kemba love drummond is interesting trio tho and could flip sexton garland while they look good?

The Cavs don't hate their draft picks at all.  They are poor defensively, but have immense offensive talent. 

That said, if Kemba cost them Cedi and Exum, they might very well do that even with the young guys playing so well.  That is a huge talent upgrade.  They'd probably try to flip Kemba elsewhere at some point as they are bought in to Sexton and Garland, but it is hard to turn down big talent upgrades.

I meant Cavs fans, I thought I put fans in there. Sorry. I live in Ohio and heard alot of bashing about garland and sexton last year but they are prly singing a different tune this year( haven't talked to my Cavs fans in while with pandemic)

None of our trade ideas ever happen but interesting and kinda entertaining to think about the what ifs

[Damiano Brancopreto]

Down by 1 point, 7 seconds left, I am sorry bur the coach shall be able to draw a situation that can lead to an high percentage shot.
It can't be: "ball in the hands of Tatum at 9 meters from the basket and then he invents", even because its invention it is frequently a very difficult shot; against the bucks, with a big bunch of luck, the ball went in, but also in that case the choice was more than bad.
So for me the coach id guilty; then we can talk about the rest

[LilRip]

Unpopular but I like how Tatum plays for the first 3 quarters. It’s when he reverts to hero ball in the 4th that has me scratching my head.

On Harden: if Tatum can draw fouls like harden, I’d be pretty happy. Right now, Tatum’s closer to Kyrie than he is Harden.

How is that take unpopular? Most of the criticism levied at him is about his play in crunch time. And yeah he's more of a fringe All-NBA guy right now.

Well the takes I’ve seen around here are 1) Brown is better than Tatum and 2) Tatum is pretty much like Harden, stopping the offense when he receives it

I wanted to give credit where credit’s due. Tatum plays pretty well for most of the game and this ball-stopping tag is generally undeserved.

[td450]

At some point it will become apparent that Brown is our best option. Given that he is disposed to actions with movement, and is less inclined to lock in on taking a shot, we'll be better off. The problem is that in the NBA, it takes reps to be effective in those situations.

Brown is much more explosive and creates separation more easily. The evolution of his midrange game is perfect for end of game situations, because it is virtually impossible to stop someone that quick.

Tatum has the beautiful shot and the footwork and ball handling, but he doesn't have that superior burst, and his most comfortable move is the sidestep three, which isn't high percentage enough for end of game when under intense pressure. He had room and time against Brogdon to get a 15 foot shot instead of a 25 foot shot but he doesn't have go to moves for that yet. He needs better mid range separation moves if he's going to win games at the buzzer for us.