Tatum ball stopping ways is not healthy basketball

[gouki88]

22 and surely Tatum has peaked..wow...JT, my advice is dont resign when contract is up and better yet, demand a trade. Toxic is a culture that our city is proud to continue. We will belittle you when you are down and than cry when you leave and become a champion

How did Lebron and Durant become great when they were 22? Hint..it was by being allowed to take pressure shots in pressure situations without half the fan base wanting their heads..

Maybe we are just not the right environment for a generational player to succeed in .

LeBron at age 22 averaged 27/7/6, took his team to the Finals, and was 5th in MVP voting. Durant at age 22 was averaging 27-30 a night and had two scoring titles.

Apples and oranges.

[RJ87]

Is this how this board is going to be after every loss this season? Because you guys might as well buckle up, it's gonna be bumpy. No Kemba, we lost Hayward and haven't replaced him. Our margin for error is much thinner than its previously been and we're gonna see it play out painfully at times. We've handed the keys to the Jays and as talented as they are, they're still young. There will be growing pains and moments that make you scratch your head. We're a bit spoiled as a fanbase because most young players go through bumps and bruises on lottery teams with no expectations. They've given us a few conference finals appearances so some of us expect perfection all the time.

[Somebody]

Is this how this board is going to be after every loss this season? Because you guys might as well buckle up, it's gonna be bumpy. No Kemba, we lost Hayward and haven't replaced him. Our margin for error is much thinner than its previously been and we're gonna see it play out painfully at times. We've handed the keys to the Jays and as talented as they are, they're still young. There will be growing pains and moments that make you scratch your head. We're a bit spoiled as a fanbase because most young players go through bumps and bruises on lottery teams with no expectations. They've given us a few conference finals appearances so some of us expect perfection all the time.

1. We can accept an ugly season, what we don't accept is us consistently playing below our potential by feeding the golden boy and letting him chuck up contested rubbish whenever we need buckets.

2. We've handed the keys to one Jay, the other Jay is still getting relegated to the corner in crunch time.

3. It's been almost two years of growing pains regarding that Jay with no signs of marked improvement (obviously Tatum has improved as a player overall, but he really hasn't improved much in crunch time - it's still the same old contested stepback/fadeaway heavy game for him).

[wiley]

Tatum is fantastic....just some commenting that the C's are better as a ball moving team...

Which I agree with...keep at it C's!  Just some growing pains...

move ball...move self...receive pass....jam.

[ozgod]

He's trying to be the leader of the team and doesn't quite know what that means yet. Maybe in his mind it means taking the responsibility on to his shoulders during crunch time. Because if he passed too much people would then say he's abdicating his responsibility as the best player on the team. Right now the best play = shoot the ball in his mind. He'll grow into that leadership role in time I hope where he can discern what the best play is. Otherwise, yes he may end up turning into another Melo.

Also other than him, the only other real scorer on the team is Jaylen. With Kemba out our scoring cupboard is bare. Unless we want Marcus Smart taking the shots 

[mr. dee]

He's trying to be the leader of the team and doesn't quite know what that means yet. Maybe in his mind it means taking the responsibility on to his shoulders during crunch time. Because if he passed too much people would then say he's abdicating his responsibility as the best player on the team. Right now the best play = shoot the ball in his mind. He'll grow into that leadership role in time I hope where he can discern what the best play is. Otherwise, yes he may end up turning into another Melo.

Also other than him, the only other real scorer on the team is Jaylen. With Kemba out our scoring cupboard is bare. Unless we want Marcus Smart taking the shots 

He's reading too much. Just make the best simple plays out there. I miss where Brad would draw plays that most teams can't predict like the Horford tip-in, Bradley cut or a Crowder 3 pointer. With all the weapons we have, Brad (if ever that was his play) seems to resort to a predictable offense since Tatum broke out.

[Rondo9]

Who needs ball stopping Harden, we already have him, LOL.

Harden, the guy who has an MVP and has a claim to two more? I wish we had someone that talented

Trade Tatum if you want him so badly.

[ozgod]

So I haven't yet watched the game, going to do so now, but I'm guessing Tatum is tonight's pinata?

[gouki88]

Who needs ball stopping Harden, we already have him, LOL.

Harden, the guy who has an MVP and has a claim to two more? I wish we had someone that talented

Trade Tatum if you want him so badly.

Pretty sure his Poison Pill Provision makes it near impossible, otherwise I would drive him to the airport

[RPGenerate]

So I haven't yet watched the game, going to do so now, but I'm guessing Tatum is tonight's pinata?

One day we want to anoint him as our saviour, the next day we want to crucify him. My, where have we heard this story before? 

[Somebody]

So I haven't yet watched the game, going to do so now, but I'm guessing Tatum is tonight's pinata?

One day we want to anoint him as our saviour, the next day we want to crucify him. My, where have we heard this story before? 

Never anointed him as our saviour - us winning the title will be a team effort as long as we don't have a generational talent and Tatum isn't that type of player no matter how much people on this forum want him to be.

[knuckleballer]

So I haven't yet watched the game, going to do so now, but I'm guessing Tatum is tonight's pinata?

One day we want to anoint him as our saviour, the next day we want to crucify him. My, where have we heard this story before? 

Amazing how players aren’t lining up to come to Boston.

[Sophomore]

So I haven't yet watched the game, going to do so now, but I'm guessing Tatum is tonight's pinata?

One day we want to anoint him as our saviour, the next day we want to crucify him. My, where have we heard this story before? 

Never anointed him as our saviour - us winning the title will be a team effort as long as we don't have a generational talent and Tatum isn't that type of player no matter how much people on this forum want him to be.

And even generational talents start winning championships when they learn they’ve got to play in a way that makes the team better. 

[PhoSita]

I don't think Tatum ball stops.

I do find it troubling that his go-to move every time he tries to make a big shot is to take a step back three.

It's a back breaker when it goes in, but even from JT it's not a super high percentage look.

When you're down 2 your star has to look to drive and either get fouled or put up a layup.  Going for the step back three in that situation is foolhardy, doesn't matter who you are.


Bigger issue is Tatum had 5 turnovers and 5 assists tonight.  The Celtics are going to continue to struggle to score efficiently so long as their best scoring options are poor at handling the ball and passing.

[Somebody]

I don't think Tatum ball stops.

I do find it troubling that his go-to move every time he tries to make a big shot is to take a step back three.

It's a back breaker when it goes in, but even from JT it's not a super high percentage look.

When you're down 2 your star has to look to drive and either get fouled or put up a layup.  Going for the step back three in that situation is foolhardy, doesn't matter who you are.


Bigger issue is Tatum had 5 turnovers and 5 assists tonight.  The Celtics are going to continue to struggle to score efficiently so long as their best scoring options are poor at handling the ball and passing.

We really only use one scoring option in crunch time with Kemba out and it's Tatum - Brown is still not getting the ball in those situations no matter how good he looks as a scoring wing who has developed moderate playmaking skills. Btw we were down 1, which makes Tatum's decision all the more foolish.