Rudy Gobert trade? (Rudy signs extension)

[radiohead]

Reports are coming out that Rudy G and Utah are not quite near an agreement for a contract extension. Dec 21 is the deadline for Utah to give Rudy a supermax. Can the Cs step in and offer a trade? Is the trade exception (s&t)  useable in this situation? Here’s a speculative trade scenario that would send Rudy to the Celtics (without using the trade exception).

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/12/20/nba-rumors-boston-celtics-utah-jazz-trade-rudy-gobert/

Rudy could very well be the defensive anchor that the Celtics have been longing for.

[jbpats]

I mean we absolutely should trade for him based on the trade proposed in the article. I’m by no means a TPE expert but if this trade works combining the exception it’s a no brainer for me

Boston Celtics Receive: Rudy Gobert, Georges Niang, Juwan Morgan

Utah Jazz Receive: Daniel Theis, Romeo Langford, Grant Williams, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2022 2nd Round Pick

Gobert may not be the sexiest name to give a max deal to but he’s a great use of our TPE, fills arguably our biggest need and is more likely than not far superior then any player we could potentially acquire using our TPE - or at this stage during free agency for the foreseeable future.

He’s also a strong asset to have if things don’t work out.

All that being said, one would have to think Utah would receive much better offers then the proposal from the article.

[Csfan1984]

Not that I think it is possible but sure I'd like to get Gorbert for that package.

[pearljammer10]

Gotta love articles on the internet from a “sportswriter” that doesn’t  know the rules.

That trade, as proposed, doesn’t come close to working under CBA rules.

We also can’t use our TPE on him because he would put us over the hard cap. If he doesn’t sign an extension, he’d be an FA next year in which we couldnt trade for him either because, even with a sign and trade, his starting salary would likely be more than the trade exception.

I’d love to get Gobert in Green. But I don’t see any scenario from us the Jazz bite on with the return we could offer.

[jambr380]

Odd that Gobert won't accept the standard max extension and will only accept a supermax. Seems like they are just playing games at this point. Next offseason, the best Gobert can do from another team is basically what the Jazz are offering now. And accepting now gives Gobert security should something go wrong this season. Only difference is next year Jazz can offer an extra year and like an extra 1% on the contract - perhaps that is worth waiting for.

Anyway, yes, the proposed trade would be decent, but it's obvious he would expect a 5-yr 30% max (no supermax because we aren't his drafted team), so we would have to be ready to give that to him.

[Somebody]

Odd that Gobert won't accept the standard max extension and will only accept a supermax. Seems like they are just playing games at this point. Next offseason, the best Gobert can do from another team is basically what the Jazz are offering now. And accepting now gives Gobert security should something go wrong this season. Only difference is next year Jazz can offer an extra year and like an extra 1% on the contract - perhaps that is worth waiting for.

Anyway, yes, the proposed trade would be decent, but it's obvious he would expect a 5-yr 30% max (no supermax because we aren't his drafted team), so we would have to be ready to give that to him.

I mean it isn't like Utah is a premier place to stay in: they look like a two and a half round team more than a title contender and they just paid an inferior player the supermax this offseason. If I were Gobert, I would ask the Jazz to cough up the supermax and leave for a team like Dallas (bigger market and better team) for basically the same amount they're willing to offer next offseason if they refuse.

[footey]

We can’t afford another max player unless we dump Kemba or Brown. Won’t happen.

[Somebody]

We can’t afford another max player unless we dump Kemba or Brown. Won’t happen.

We have around 22 million of the TPE that we can use without going over the tax line, we can easily get Gobert by trading Theis and Green/Edwards/Semi.

[Rikibellevie]

I think this "insider" is playing a bit too much at 2k... He says it is " a fair trade" with "Danny knowing Langford high value on a trade"... Lol. But of course Gobert could give us a shot this year and would complete our defense and mindset very well. Unfortinately it probably won't happen

[Birdman]

I trade anyone not named Tatum or Brown for Rudy

[pearljammer10]

Odd that Gobert won't accept the standard max extension and will only accept a supermax. Seems like they are just playing games at this point. Next offseason, the best Gobert can do from another team is basically what the Jazz are offering now. And accepting now gives Gobert security should something go wrong this season. Only difference is next year Jazz can offer an extra year and like an extra 1% on the contract - perhaps that is worth waiting for.

Anyway, yes, the proposed trade would be decent, but it's obvious he would expect a 5-yr 30% max (no supermax because we aren't his drafted team), so we would have to be ready to give that to him.

That report was debunked as false. He never asked for the Supermax from the Jazz.

[pearljammer10]

We can’t afford another max player unless we dump Kemba or Brown. Won’t happen.

We have around 22 million of the TPE that we can use without going over the tax line, we can easily get Gobert by trading Theis and Green/Edwards/Semi.

Easily?

If it was so easy 29 other teams would have made a trade offer for him by now.

We could only do it if we traded Theis and one of those other three without bringing salary back. At this point with rosters needing to be cut down, I’m not sure where we could find a team with cap space willing to do so.

[Somebody]

Massive applause to Gobert for taking a paycut to help the Jazz maintain flexibility. If I were him, I certainly wouldn't have done that when my sidekick demanded a supermax and got it with all sorts of bells and whistles.

[pearljammer10]

All-NBA big man Rudy Gobert will sign a five-year, $205 million contract extension with the Utah Jazz, he told ESPN after agreeing to the largest deal for a center in league history.

[jambr380]

Odd that Gobert won't accept the standard max extension and will only accept a supermax. Seems like they are just playing games at this point. Next offseason, the best Gobert can do from another team is basically what the Jazz are offering now. And accepting now gives Gobert security should something go wrong this season. Only difference is next year Jazz can offer an extra year and like an extra 1% on the contract - perhaps that is worth waiting for.

Anyway, yes, the proposed trade would be decent, but it's obvious he would expect a 5-yr 30% max (no supermax because we aren't his drafted team), so we would have to be ready to give that to him.

That report was debunked as false. He never asked for the Supermax from the Jazz.

I mean, when I wrote my post, this was the most current information. If he never asked for a supermax, you would have thought this would have been done weeks ago. It always made sense for both sides to do this - more guaranteed years, money, and security for Gobert; and obviously the Jazz get to keep him long-term.

Re: somebody's post above - because of year's of NBA service, Mitchell's supermax contract can't be more than 30%, while Gobert's could have been 35%. Gobert at $205M is still more than the absolute max Mitchell can get at $195M ($163M if he doesn't make All-NBA)