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Danny agreed to trade Pierce to Dallas?
« on: December 17, 2020, 09:03:53 PM »

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I had never heard this one before:

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During an appearance on “Heavy Live with Scoop B Show” Mavericks owner Mark Cuban revealed that his team almost had a three-team deal in place to acquire the Boston Celtics star in 2013, only for the third team, the Atlanta Hawks, to back out of the deal. According to Cuban the Hawks reneged on the trade once they learned that the Celtics, their Eastern Conference foe, were involved.

“We were (close to trading for Pierce) and Atlanta killed it,” Cuban said. “We had a three-way deal done with the Mavs, Celtics, and Atlanta and when Atlanta saw the other team, because you really don’t tell the other team (who) the third team (is), you just say we’re moving a player, when we got to the trade call, they killed it.”

Dallas was looking to build one more contender around Dirk Nowitzki at the end of his prime, two years after winning the title in 2011. At the time, Pierce was 35 years old, but still had a few good years of hoops left.

If this made it to the trade call, that means the Celts had signed off on it.  That said, I’m a bit skeptical that things got that far, because this never made it to the media.
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Re: Danny agreed to trade Pierce to Dallas?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2020, 09:55:47 PM »

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Interesting. I would have liked to see Dirk and Pierce play together.

Wasn’t there a deal in place for Pierce to go to NYK that year as well? Jackie Mac told the story on Bill Simmons’ most recent Book of Basketball podcast about KG (which is a great listen). I may be misremembering the team.

Edit: Yeah it was the Knicks.

Jackie Mac “Last time I talked to Pierce....we were talking about the end of the line with Doc and how things were getting messy..... He told me this story that Doc sent Sam Cassell down to tell him ‘We’re gonna trade you. We have a deal with you, you’re going to the Knicks.’ And Pierce is like ‘What?! Are you freaking kidding me? You tell Doc if he’s gonna trade me he better get down here in person and tell me. And you also tell him I’m not going. You’re not trading me.’ And then apparently they called off the deal.”
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Re: Danny agreed to trade Pierce to Dallas?
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I wonder what the proposed deal looked like.

The irony is because Atlanta backed out of the deal (due to not wanting to help Boston), the Hawks gave Danny time to end up making the Nets trade, where we ending up getting Smart, Brown, and Tatum.

Re: Danny agreed to trade Pierce to Dallas?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2020, 11:05:59 PM »

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This was reported in the media. 

March 8, 2013 Yahoo article

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--after-trade-talks-to-send-paul-pierce-to-dallas-fell-through--celtics-make-another-spring-run-203043279.html


March 8, 2013 CBS Sports article picking up on the Yahoo story.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-celtics-almost-traded-paul-pierce-to-dallas-in-three-team-deal/


Boston would have acquired Josh Smith.  The deal was killed according to the articles when Atlanta demanded a 1st from Boston as part of the trade. 
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This was reported in the media. 

March 8, 2013 Yahoo article

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--after-trade-talks-to-send-paul-pierce-to-dallas-fell-through--celtics-make-another-spring-run-203043279.html


March 8, 2013 CBS Sports article picking up on the Yahoo story.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-celtics-almost-traded-paul-pierce-to-dallas-in-three-team-deal/


Boston would have acquired Josh Smith.  The deal was killed according to the articles when Atlanta demanded a 1st from Boston as part of the trade.
This checks out given every single year it seemed like we were rumoured to be pursuing Josh Smith
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Re: Danny agreed to trade Pierce to Dallas?
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Yikes.  Imagine if we’d ended up with Josh Smith rather than the BRK picks?
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Re: Danny agreed to trade Pierce to Dallas?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2020, 11:35:13 PM »

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Yikes.  Imagine if we’d ended up with Josh Smith rather than the BRK picks?
We still would have had KG so who knows what Brooklyn might have done.  Obviously not the full gamut, but we still might have gotten the Brown pick out of them, especially taking on Wallace.

And Rondo probably works out differently with Smith such that I don't think Boston just moves on from him.

That was a pretty terrible trade for Atlanta so it isn't a surprise they wanted a 1st from Boston.
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I wonder what the proposed deal looked like.

The irony is because Atlanta backed out of the deal (due to not wanting to help Boston), the Hawks gave Danny time to end up making the Nets trade, where we ending up getting Smart, Brown, and Tatum.

That was a nice highway robbery at the time.

But now Brooklyn has Durant and Irving, so ehh

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2020, 07:38:54 AM »

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I wonder what the proposed deal looked like.

The irony is because Atlanta backed out of the deal (due to not wanting to help Boston), the Hawks gave Danny time to end up making the Nets trade, where we ending up getting Smart, Brown, and Tatum.

That was a nice highway robbery at the time.

But now Brooklyn has Durant and Irving, so ehh

Yeah, in the end it worked out for both BKN and us. They can't really complain at all since they signed two premier FAs for nothing. If they ended up with the picks, one of them surely would have been Fultz (over Tatum) so they wouldn't even have our future.