Best ideas to use the massive trade exception.

[Vermont Green]

I am all for the wait and see approach.  For example, what are we going to get out of Kemba?  What is Langford going to look like when he comes back?  Who else is going to get hurt?  I like the idea of just letting this play out a bit to see what we got.

That does not mean we have to wait until the trade deadline exactly but it wouldn't surprise me if it came to that.  Likely, the best target would be a SF/PF swing type, maybe Thad Young or somebody like that.  I don't want to give up a lot and I don't feel we need to bring in a star.  A solid vet for the bench where we send out maybe just a pick but absorb salary for the other team.

We still can use the big TPE in the off season (or what is left of it).  That is where I would be more open to a bigger deal.  Teams would probably be more likely to offer players and it would be less disruptive to us.  Anything mid season though, should be about adding around the core, not an overhaul.

[footey]

There are reports that Gobert wants the super max and that Utah is obviously unwilling to give it to him. Perhaps we could pry him away using the exception and picks.

This is what I'm interested in:

https://tradenba.com/trades/jOVy0ShNC

Kemba
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Gobert

IMO, it would potentially still take more.

Romeo, Theis, Edwards and picks
for
Gobert

More than that. Would also need to include Smart. 

[colincb]

I wonder if the Celtics may find a way to slip into a bigger trade (say for Harden) where they take a useful vet into the TE and Houston is able to cut salaries down.

Eric Gordon, whose contract might cost HOU two or three 1st rounders to dump otherwise.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I wonder if the Celtics may find a way to slip into a bigger trade (say for Harden) where they take a useful vet into the TE and Houston is able to cut salaries down.

Eric Gordon, whose contract might cost HOU two or three 1st rounders to dump otherwise.

Uggh. He was pretty bad at basketball last year.

[yelkao]

Is Otto Porter’s talent salvageable at this point? Does he make too much money to fit in the TPE?

[liam]

I am all for the wait and see approach.  For example, what are we going to get out of Kemba?  What is Langford going to look like when he comes back?  Who else is going to get hurt?  I like the idea of just letting this play out a bit to see what we got.

That does not mean we have to wait until the trade deadline exactly but it wouldn't surprise me if it came to that.  Likely, the best target would be a SF/PF swing type, maybe Thad Young or somebody like that.  I don't want to give up a lot and I don't feel we need to bring in a star.  A solid vet for the bench where we send out maybe just a pick but absorb salary for the other team.

We still can use the big TPE in the off season (or what is left of it).  That is where I would be more open to a bigger deal.  Teams would probably be more likely to offer players and it would be less disruptive to us.  Anything mid season though, should be about adding around the core, not an overhaul.

I like the wait and see approach as well but I’d jump on a talented player if one shakes loose.

[liam]

Is Otto Porter’s talent salvageable at this point? Does he make too much money to fit in the TPE?

I think he makes too much for us to stay under the luxury tax. When Washington gave him that massive contract I swallowed my gum.

[yelkao]

Lol. Yea I guess paying him 26 million a year and going over the tax to do it isn’t the best way to ‘shore up the wing depth’

[colincb]

I wonder if the Celtics may find a way to slip into a bigger trade (say for Harden) where they take a useful vet into the TE and Houston is able to cut salaries down.

Eric Gordon, whose contract might cost HOU two or three 1st rounders to dump otherwise.

Uggh. He was pretty bad at basketball last year.

He sucked last year. He's a rotational player here, but you change what you give to the Rockets for Harden in a separate deal maybe like Brown and spare parts instead of Brown + Smart and three firsts which John Hollinger floated. Rockets get more cap relief, a young star, and a TPE for next off-season and young prospects.


BTW HOU Expands search for Harden Trade

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30540328/sources-houston-rockets-expand-trade-talks-james-harden-preferred-teams

[Irish Stew]

I guess my more general question is for those who want to include Walker in trades. Would you want a player at that age with his contract and with his medical situation?

It seems to me that you would have to wait until he proves that he can play big minutes at a high level on a nightly basis.

Of course, if he does answer any doubts about his health, durability, and quality of performance, why would you want to trade him?

[liam]

I guess my more general question is for those who want to include Walker in trades. Would you want a player at that age with his contract and with his medical situation?

It seems to me that you would have to wait until he proves that he can play big minutes at a high level on a nightly basis.

Of course, if he does answer any doubts about his health, durability, and quality of performance, why would you want to trade him?

The hornets gave Hayward that huge contract without making sure he was healthy so anything is possible.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Save the TPE for a potential Gobert sign-and-trade plus picks during the offseason.

The other, more remote possibility is the Clippers collapse and Kawhi wants out and wants to take out LeBron/Lakers in the green, in which case we use the TPE and picks to make a sign-and-trade happen after Kawhi declines his player option (maybe negotiate a gentleman’s agreement where we subsequently send Kemba to the Clippers for a heavily protected second if that’s what it takes to get them to deal with us instead of the Heat/Bucks/76ers/Raptors). Kawhi clearly has contingency plans considering he signed just three years with a player option on the third year. If they do not win it all, and certainly if this season is a repeat of last, I bet he’s available.

Waiting for a potential superstar in the offseason, rather than blowing it on second-tier talent right now, is by far the best option here. The second-tier talent will still be available come the offseason...

[GreenlyGreeny]

 

I guess my more general question is for those who want to include Walker in trades. Would you want a player at that age with his contract and with his medical situation?

The Jazz ought to be interested in Conley and picks for Kemba considering Conley is gone next offseason no matter what, so why not flip him for another starting PG, even if it’s one with health issues?