Kyrie Responds to Being Fined

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He seems to really have gone off the deep end since leaving us

'Since' leaving us?  Oh he was at that end before he even got here. lol

[gouki88]

He seems to really have gone off the deep end since leaving us

'Since' leaving us?  Oh he was at that end before he even got here. lol

Eh, I think his mental health has spiralled since he left us to be honest.

[Jiri Welsch]

He seems to really have gone off the deep end since leaving us

'Since' leaving us?  Oh he was at that end before he even got here. lol

Eh, I think his mental health has spiralled since he left us to be honest.

I think his first year here, he pretty much kept it together. And then the second year, he essentially lost it and things haven't ever bounced back entirely.

With all that said, he clearly means well. He's donated lots of money in this past year to WNBA players, and his community to feed the hungry. You can't say he's a bad person--just clearly struggling. It's sad.

[Neurotic Guy]

There's a chance that Kyrie does have some mental health/ personality issues.  But of course, none of know him well enough to diagnose him.  The only additional thought I have about this is that IF he does have an issue people shouldn't expect him to just start thinking logically and rationally as many suggest here (...if he just did this or that...). 

If he has a thinking or mood problem or personality quirk or disorder of some kind, then his behavior will repeatedly be impacted and we shouldn't be surprised or (in my opinion) critical unless of course his actions are directly harmful to others.  Not being an ideal teammate is a likely outcome, but perhaps Durant understands Kyrie and can effectively help him manage his mental health or personality quirks.  As far as speaking to the press goes, well I'm pretty progressive on this one - if someone has anxiety disorder or "spectrum" disorder or other type of issue that would make press conferences an overly stressful (detrimentally stressful) experience, my suggestion would be to find another way for that individual to meet the criteria of sharing with the press. It's solvable -- and not really that difficult to solve.

[SHAQATTACK]

He has kinda checked out ,  but maybe he stopped taking his meds ?  or he fell off the edge of the earth and hit his noggen ...ouch ! 

[ChillyWilly]

I know lots of people who donate large sums of money and are complete Arsebags.

One thing I've learned about those who "give" do so for their own satisfaction. Yup even you reading this thinking you'd love to debate how you give because of other reason but let's be real giving makes you have a feeling you like. Especially in today's society when everyone can see how "Good" you are.

I don't have any friends, think very highly of my ability, I look down at most everyone and have no issue letting others know of this, I go out of my way to prevent anyone rising up under me, I'm close to impossible to work with, I've ghosted people for years, I havent been overly productive last few years but act more arrogantly to over compensate. I also donate large sums of money to autism and my tribe. I'm a good person.

[Ogaju]

There's a chance that Kyrie does have some mental health/ personality issues.  But of course, none of know him well enough to diagnose him.  The only additional thought I have about this is that IF he does have an issue people shouldn't expect him to just start thinking logically and rationally as many suggest here (...if he just did this or that...). 

If he has a thinking or mood problem or personality quirk or disorder of some kind, then his behavior will repeatedly be impacted and we shouldn't be surprised or (in my opinion) critical unless of course his actions are directly harmful to others.  Not being an ideal teammate is a likely outcome, but perhaps Durant understands Kyrie and can effectively help him manage his mental health or personality quirks.  As far as speaking to the press goes, well I'm pretty progressive on this one - if someone has anxiety disorder or "spectrum" disorder or other type of issue that would make press conferences an overly stressful (detrimentally stressful) experience, my suggestion would be to find another way for that individual to meet the criteria of sharing with the press. It's solvable -- and not really that difficult to solve.

Society in large part needs to get a handle on dealing with mental health issues. Very often people with mental health issues are ridiculed or ostracized becuase society blames them for actions that may not be in their control. It may very well be that Kyrie has a mental health issue, and that will explain a lot of the things that he does. Tyeh promise to re-sign in Boston for example may have been the result of social anxiety dealing with the crowd in TD Garden that evening. In short, Kyrie should nnot be ridiculed or ostracized for actions that may well be a result of health issues that require medical intervention. His team and the NBA should probably step to see if they can offer assistance in getting some care. I hesitate to say 'help' because that word in the mental health context has been abused and  now carries a negative connotation.

[hwangjini_1]

Kyrie is awesome, absolutely love this dude.

The people who don't like him or say bad things about him are worthless trash. Don't get at me, I don't care what you think.

you seem to say that people should be more respectful of kyrie. and that is your opinion to have.

but you follow up it with insults to your fellow posters. this would appear to not only be disrespectful, but even hypocritical post.

please do better. we have a good community here and it falls upon all of us to keep it so. thank you.

[Neurotic Guy]

I know lots of people who donate large sums of money and are complete Arsebags.

One thing I've learned about those who "give" do so for their own satisfaction. Yup even you reading this thinking you'd love to debate how you give because of other reason but let's be real giving makes you have a feeling you like. Especially in today's society when everyone can see how "Good" you are.

I don't have any friends, think very highly of my ability, I look down at most everyone and have no issue letting others know of this, I go out of my way to prevent anyone rising up under me, I'm close to impossible to work with, I've ghosted people for years, I havent been overly productive last few years but act more arrogantly to over compensate. I also donate large sums of money to autism and my tribe. I'm a good person.

Funny last paragraph. Thanks for that.

Yeah -- you're probably right that there is self-satisfaction in giving that makes the act not purely altruistic.  And you are definitely right that some people who donate a lot are not very good people when it comes to other important aspects of life.   But... giving usually does help people and even if there are multiple motivations involved and some of them self-centered, giving to charities is a pretty good thing to do considering we don't actually have to.   Probably mostly a waste of time and energy to find the negative in it.

[ChillyWilly]

I know lots of people who donate large sums of money and are complete Arsebags.

One thing I've learned about those who "give" do so for their own satisfaction. Yup even you reading this thinking you'd love to debate how you give because of other reason but let's be real giving makes you have a feeling you like. Especially in today's society when everyone can see how "Good" you are.

I don't have any friends, think very highly of my ability, I look down at most everyone and have no issue letting others know of this, I go out of my way to prevent anyone rising up under me, I'm close to impossible to work with, I've ghosted people for years, I havent been overly productive last few years but act more arrogantly to over compensate. I also donate large sums of money to autism and my tribe. I'm a good person.

Funny last paragraph. Thanks for that.

Yeah -- you're probably right that there is self-satisfaction in giving that makes the act not purely altruistic.  And you are definitely right that some people who donate a lot are not very good people when it comes to other important aspects of life.   But... giving usually does help people and even if there are multiple motivations involved and some of them self-centered, giving to charities is a pretty good thing to do considering we don't actually have to.   Probably mostly a waste of time and energy to find the negative in it.

Be funnier if it was about Kyrie and not me 

[SparzWizard]

He seems to really have gone off the deep end since leaving us

'Since' leaving us?  Oh he was at that end before he even got here. lol

Eh, I think his mental health has spiralled since he left us to be honest.

I think his first year here, he pretty much kept it together. And then the second year, he essentially lost it and things haven't ever bounced back entirely.

With all that said, he clearly means well. He's donated lots of money in this past year to WNBA players, and his community to feed the hungry. You can't say he's a bad person--just clearly struggling. It's sad.

He's...just weird in a bad way. Of course, I hated him since he left the Celtics and will always hate him. Give him the Ray Allen and Al Horford treatment.

[Neurotic Guy]

I know lots of people who donate large sums of money and are complete Arsebags.

One thing I've learned about those who "give" do so for their own satisfaction. Yup even you reading this thinking you'd love to debate how you give because of other reason but let's be real giving makes you have a feeling you like. Especially in today's society when everyone can see how "Good" you are.

I don't have any friends, think very highly of my ability, I look down at most everyone and have no issue letting others know of this, I go out of my way to prevent anyone rising up under me, I'm close to impossible to work with, I've ghosted people for years, I havent been overly productive last few years but act more arrogantly to over compensate. I also donate large sums of money to autism and my tribe. I'm a good person.

Funny last paragraph. Thanks for that.

Yeah -- you're probably right that there is self-satisfaction in giving that makes the act not purely altruistic.  And you are definitely right that some people who donate a lot are not very good people when it comes to other important aspects of life.   But... giving usually does help people and even if there are multiple motivations involved and some of them self-centered, giving to charities is a pretty good thing to do considering we don't actually have to.   Probably mostly a waste of time and energy to find the negative in it.

Be funnier if it was about Kyrie and not me 

Sorry -- I thought you playing with us.  If that's all true, much less funny, but if true your self-awareness skills seem strong.  And hey -- you have friends here!

[liam]

He seems to really have gone off the deep end since leaving us

'Since' leaving us?  Oh he was at that end before he even got here. lol

Eh, I think his mental health has spiralled since he left us to be honest.

I think his first year here, he pretty much kept it together. And then the second year, he essentially lost it and things haven't ever bounced back entirely.

With all that said, he clearly means well. He's donated lots of money in this past year to WNBA players, and his community to feed the hungry. You can't say he's a bad person--just clearly struggling. It's sad.

He's...just weird in a bad way. Of course, I hated him since he left the Celtics and will always hate him. Give him the Ray Allen and Al Horford treatment.

Who are these people of whom you speak? 

[tenn_smoothie]

Saw someone raise a good point.  Instead of complaining about the fine money & trying to make a statement, couldn't Kyrie just directly be donating himself to these marginalized communities (which he may be doing some already, who knows)?

Oh, he is. Don't you remember the Celtics road game in Houston when the Nut Job was walking around town and handed out some cash to a homeless guy (with several reporters around as witnesses). Kyrie - He be there for the marginalized.

[tenn_smoothie]

Ainge should have traded Kyrie after his first couple of media sessions when he was in Boston. You could clearly see he was a nut job. A guy who talks like that, no matter how great a talent he is, and for Kyrie he's not much of a talent because is total lack of effort on D combined with his ball hogging offensive arrogance is ultimately a net negative, can never be a guy leading your team or be a guy who is part of the leadership of your team - just cannot happen, whether you think Durant of AD might come because of it.  It won't work - ever.

It was a colossal error of judgment on Ainge's part, or Ainge and ownership. You could have gotten a lot from, probably from Brooklyn, had you traded him when you should have. The team that year actually played better with Rozier at the point.

Ainge kissed Irving's ass from Day One.

What a disgrace it was to award him the Red Auerbach Award  after his first season supposedly representing the player who most exemplified what it means to be a Boston Celtic. This, of course, after he had not even bothered to show up and support his teammates for the biggest game the franchise had since the Garnett era - Game 7 ECF vs Cleveland. Ainge even made a stupid joke about Kyrie saving face for his movie career.

Ainge should have traded the guy at the deadline during his second year with the team. It was obvious to some of us by then that Kyrie as a Celtic was a mistake. We could have acquired a much needed all-star level center in that deal and probably gone to the Finals.

I have to laugh at the blind, dumb and deaf who gave endless hell to me and tarheels because we dared to criticize Irving. I believe one of the mods actually threatened tarheels with suspension from the board if he continued his negative comments about Kyrie.