James Harden Holding Out

[celticmcj]

Guys bigger and stronger these days than guys like just Malone and Pippen? Or you mean like Oakley and Mahorn? Oh you mean Hakeem and Robinson. Im sure Green and Harden being much bigger and stronger not to mention much better than these old guys would have their way right? Lol, come on now

[celticmcj]

Also no way im trading Brown for fat lazy undiciplined shot jacking Harden for the record!

[Bobshot]

Whatever happened to players honoring their contracts? Harden gets paid extremely well and fully understood the terms of his deal. I want to see teams putting their foot down on these trade demands by star players. You sign a contract, live with your choice and honor it. If the team sucks, make an effort to improve your teammates and the team culture.

Those days are over for sure. Players now view their rights as equal to that of the team, for better or worse.

That meaning if a team can trade or cut a player for whatever reason they want then a player can similarly demand out.

It doesn't work that way though. If they want that right, they should ask for it in their contract, or the players association should make it a point in the next CBA. As is, you sign a deal, you have to honor it. If I were a GM I'd put my foot down and the heck with the consequences. Teams make huge investments building their franchises around these guys, who then just selfishly decide to skip town for greener pastures whenever things don't go their way.

It's still better than what's happening in European football. There agents rule the business.
When you want to sign a player you need to pay his agent as well. For instance, when a team gives a player a 120 million contract then automatically they'll receive a bill by the player's agent who wants a commission you'll need to pay at like 5-10% thus an additional 6-12 million for his services to allow you to sign this football player.

Jorge Mendes the best football agent earned 118 million last year by negotiating 1,18 billion in player contracts. Not only that, these agents controll the market. When a football club wants a player they'll contact the agent whether he can pursuade the current club to sell the player to them. Or when a player is unhappy, his agent will tell the club that he wants his client to be traded and gives them a shortlist of teams who are interested. If a club is unwilling to fulfil the wishes of an agent, it's likely that other clients of this agent won't sign or resign with the club again.

I don't know if it's that bad in American sports--the media doesn't discuss these things. But I do know Scott Boras has built a free agent empire in MLB, with its lack of a salary cap.
I would guess the harder the salary cap, the less the free agent influence in a sport. There is simply less money to spend. And no doubt, the agents selfishly fuel the free agent contracts.  They want to max out their 5-7% share.

[Bobshot]

Report out now that Philly is willing to trade Simmons.


To me that basically guarantees Harden will be a Sixer.  Just comes down to what peripherals will be in the deal.


Curry, Harden, Green, Tobias, Embiid


That's the lineup you've gotta beat.  It doesn't scare me defensively, but very hard to defend.

I think he's gonna be a sixer too. The report that followed claiming Houston is expanding trade talks beyond his preferred teams seems like a ploy to put pressure on Philly to squeeze out more than just Simmons.

Morey has responded to Shams tweet, stating:
“We are not trading Ben Simmons — he is an important part of our future.”

Simmons has a fundamental problem--he can't shoot. I don't know why Houston would trade the best scorer in the game for the worst one! They already have an elite playmaker in Wall.

You think Ainge would trade for Simmons? I don't think so. Danny drafted shooters--that's where his head is at.

Personal issues aside, I would think Ainge would find Harden attractive because of his prolific scoring. I don't know what he would give up for him.

Right now, I like Brown a little better than Tatum. He's smaller but somewhat more athletic, and better defensively. He is very intelligent, and his shot keeps improving.
Tatum seems to be the go to guy at the start of the season, but he sure did look bad with a last second 3 when he needed an easier 2P shot to win. Where's the coach? What was the called play?

[tenn_smoothie]

Also no way im trading Brown for fat lazy undiciplined shot jacking Harden for the record!

I'm not trading Semi for that cancer Harden - Did we not learn our lesson from Kyrie ? Such short memories.

[tenn_smoothie]

Surely Danny learned his lesson from the Kyrie Irving debacle and is not one of the GM's considering a trade for Harden.

You’d have to think so. Plus the cost for Harden would be astronomical!

Gouk !!! We get to agree on something - what a nice moment.

[gouki88]

Surely Danny learned his lesson from the Kyrie Irving debacle and is not one of the GM's considering a trade for Harden.

You’d have to think so. Plus the cost for Harden would be astronomical!

Gouk !!! We get to agree on something - what a nice moment.

Don’t get used to it