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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2020, 11:24:09 PM »

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Is it possible for both teams to lost this trade?

The Celtics lost this "trade" because it made an eastern conference foe stronger, a low-seeded playoff team.
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of course, the true winners of this deal are the strip clubs and poker rooms of houston.  ;D
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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2020, 11:26:54 PM »

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BTW, in August Wall looked to be moving pretty well.  Obviously not game action, but doesn't look like a guy that is struggling with an injury either.



I’d be shocked if he came back anywhere near the player he was. He had two very debilitating injuries back-to-back. Klay Thompson is in the same boat, only Klay relies on his elite shooting, not elite speed/athleticism like Wall.
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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2020, 11:28:04 PM »

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Is it weird that I actually prefer Wall over Westbrook at this point in their careers? I think Westbrook brings very little value to better and better teams while Wall still has his passing and defence that can help high level teams (he can also shoot the midrange well for some floor spacing).
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« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2020, 11:29:10 PM »

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BTW, in August Wall looked to be moving pretty well.  Obviously not game action, but doesn't look like a guy that is struggling with an injury either.



I’d be shocked if he came back anywhere near the player he was. He had two very debilitating injuries back-to-back. Klay Thompson is in the same boat, only Klay relies on his elite shooting, not elite speed/athleticism like Wall.
That clip looked really good though (like yeah maybe Wall isn't stupidly athletic nowadays, but how many point guards can do 360s with ease like that?).
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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2020, 11:52:35 PM »

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BTW, in August Wall looked to be moving pretty well.  Obviously not game action, but doesn't look like a guy that is struggling with an injury either.



I’d be shocked if he came back anywhere near the player he was. He had two very debilitating injuries back-to-back. Klay Thompson is in the same boat, only Klay relies on his elite shooting, not elite speed/athleticism like Wall.
That clip looked really good though (like yeah maybe Wall isn't stupidly athletic nowadays, but how many point guards can do 360s with ease like that?).
I'd need to see footage of him sprinting. His speed was transcendent, and is what allowed his vertical to be useful.
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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2020, 11:52:49 PM »

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Is it weird that I actually prefer Wall over Westbrook at this point in their careers? I think Westbrook brings very little value to better and better teams while Wall still has his passing and defence that can help high level teams (he can also shoot the midrange well for some floor spacing).

The way I remember Westbrook’s season ending was with turnovers, air balls , and bad hero ball. That’s why you might prefer the guy who hasn’t played. Wall has a lot of the same flaws as Westbrook, as I remember from playoffs past, but it’s further in the past so Wall seems more desirable.

Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2020, 12:05:35 AM »

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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2020, 12:13:21 AM »

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Man, that deal is going to kill Houston. Houston is done. Harden is leaving. 12 months from now, Harden is out the door.

Wall is finished. Torn achilles for a speedy guard who over-relies on his athleticism and has failed to further develop his skill-level for years? No way. He's not coming back anywhere near where he left off of.

Houston is done and Harden is out the door 12 months from now.

Yeah, hard to imagine Harden staying in Houston and the West remains stacked (LAC, LAL, DEN).  Even if he makes a miraculous return from achilles injury, he's a poor shooter who struggles in the playoffs.  This also leaves Houston paying out his salary of 41 - 44- 47 million over the next 3 years. 

Westbrook is arguably even worse in the playoffs with his shooting & decision-making, he's older, and signed essentially the same contract as Wall.  And the East keeps getting better (BOS, MIL, MIA, PHI).

Looks like a lose-lose for both teams, though it's easy for us to underestimate the difficulty of acquiring all-stars from our armchairs.

Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2020, 12:16:05 AM »

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Boogie and Wall, together again.
I always thought they were  a good tandem and complement each other well. It feels like a very long time ago watching these 2 together in Kentucky

Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2020, 12:59:33 AM »

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Wall was a man down here in dc.  He showed up to every charity obligation    He would have been a Celtics legend. 

Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2020, 06:43:54 AM »

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Wall was a man down here in dc.  He showed up to every charity obligation    He would have been a Celtics legend.

and another crippled max player to deal with in short order.

Here is a trade ...one with no legs for one with no brains

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« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2020, 07:42:18 AM »

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Have to wait and see bout how this trade plays out..
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« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2020, 08:28:59 AM »

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Any way Celtics can help this deal out and get Christian WOod?

Smart
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Wood
Thompson

I really like that lineup while Kemba is hurt.
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« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2020, 08:30:18 AM »

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Any way Celtics can help this deal out and get Christian WOod?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Wood
Thompson

I really like that lineup while Kemba is hurt.

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Re: Westbrook for Wall and 1st - DONE
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2020, 08:47:06 AM »

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Not sure if there is a winner in this trade....wonder how Bradley Beal feels about this and if he'll push his way out of Washington now???

If you believe Bill Simmons, Beal has been pushing for this trade to happen.

Wall and Beal definitely aren’t fans of one another.  I think he’ll like Westbrook even less.

I've definitely gotten that vibe, that they just tolerated each other. Also didn't help that Wall referred to Beal as his sidekick.

I think Russ and Beal can work. Kind of like how Russ and Paul George played together.

You would hope that after failing in so many places Westbrook at some point will look at himself and make a change for the better, but some people never change.

Lol. This is his third team. He didn't fail in OKC - unless you consider winning an MVP a failure. And I don't think he failed in Houston. He was 3rd team All-NBA last year.

I know some people don't like his style of play, but there's this irrational hatred for him I don't get.
It more the fact that he's consistently terrible in the playoffs, and his boneheaded shot taking.

Yeah, it's his inability to understand how to win and do what's best for team success rather than individual accolades.

He definitely should have signed with the team that knocked him out of the playoffs like Durant. I'm sure that would have silenced the haters.
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