Pacers GM throw shade at Ainge after failed trade

[NKY fan]

Wow, the Pacers front office must be really p---ed. They keep putting out these attacks insinuating the Celtics botched a great offer by asking for too much:

https://twitter.com/ThisIsJMichael/status/1331766667819556865


I credit Ainge for not hampering our team by paying Turner and McDermott for another late 1st that we really do not need.

Stay classy Indy. Gordon took more money than you were offering him. If you really wanted him you would have matched the contract offer and would have sent the Celtics something worth considering.

Hptanzaro,
Did it cross your mind that maybe Danny regrets not taking indys offer now?
I understand supporting the team but this sounds like drinking Danny Ainge cool aide with supplements and performance enhancements

[RJ87]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

[hpantazo]

Wow, the Pacers front office must be really p---ed. They keep putting out these attacks insinuating the Celtics botched a great offer by asking for too much:

https://twitter.com/ThisIsJMichael/status/1331766667819556865


I credit Ainge for not hampering our team by paying Turner and McDermott for another late 1st that we really do not need.

Stay classy Indy. Gordon took more money than you were offering him. If you really wanted him you would have matched the contract offer and would have sent the Celtics something worth considering.

Hptanzaro,
Did it cross your mind that maybe Danny regrets not taking indys offer now?
I understand supporting the team but this sounds like drinking Danny Ainge cool aide with supplements and performance enhancements

Seeing Turner's defensive stats and his limitations, and knowing Stevens and how he uses players, absolutely not.

Getting a large trade exception along with Tristan Thompson and Jeff Teague is much much better.

And that's not even mentioning that the Pacers offer was not possible to execute as Gordon wanted the bigger contract that Charlotte offered. The Pacers didnt match the money.

Heck, from before free agency started, I would have been happy letting Hayward go if we could retain the ability to use his cap space for someone else. Mission accomplished.

[NKY fan]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

I don’t think turner is the missing piece I just think certain statements are not obvious..

[RJ87]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

I don’t think turner is the missing piece I just think certain statements are not obvious..

If reports are true, Danny wanted Warren and Holiday but not Turner. I don't have an issue with Danny not settling for a package he doesn't place any value to. If Indy offers up one of those guys in addition to Turner, I think Danny ultimately does the deal because then he's least getting a player the team wants.

[NKY fan]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

I don’t think turner is the missing piece I just think certain statements are not obvious..

If reports are true, Danny wanted Warren and Holiday but not Turner. I don't have an issue with Danny not settling for a package he doesn't place any value to. If Indy offers up one of those guys in addition to Turner, I think Danny ultimately does the deal because then he's least getting a player the team wants.

How about the first round pick they offered ? You know how much marginal utility Danny assigns on each pick

[Tr1boy]

Pritchard : wow you get Turner and Mcdermott!  You will love them. You owe me

Ainge:  what kind of special you smokin??

This is how I envision things went down 

[PAOBoston]

Wow, the Pacers front office must be really p---ed. They keep putting out these attacks insinuating the Celtics botched a great offer by asking for too much:

https://twitter.com/ThisIsJMichael/status/1331766667819556865


I credit Ainge for not hampering our team by paying Turner and McDermott for another late 1st that we really do not need.

Stay classy Indy. Gordon took more money than you were offering him. If you really wanted him you would have matched the contract offer and would have sent the Celtics something worth considering.

The story is behind a paywall. Ha anyone been able to read what it actually said? Seems like a lot of “leaks” on the Indy side.

[RJ87]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

I don’t think turner is the missing piece I just think certain statements are not obvious..

If reports are true, Danny wanted Warren and Holiday but not Turner. I don't have an issue with Danny not settling for a package he doesn't place any value to. If Indy offers up one of those guys in addition to Turner, I think Danny ultimately does the deal because then he's least getting a player the team wants.

How about the first round pick they offered ? You know how much marginal utility Danny assigns on each pick

A late first round pick can be acquired for cash on draft night, honestly. We're not talking about a pick projected to be in the lottery. If Danny essentially viewed the return as two players he didn't want and a pick in the 20-30 range, then that's not value.

[NKY fan]

Pritchard : wow you get Turner and Mcdermott!  You will love them. You owe me

Ainge:  what kind of special you smokin??

This is how I envision things went down 

Would you be very upset if we S&T Hayward to Indy and received from them - Turner plus McDermott plus a 2022 first rounder or a similar pick?
I can guarantee you most people would be praising Danny and tell how good of a trader he is.

[NKY fan]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

I don’t think turner is the missing piece I just think certain statements are not obvious..

If reports are true, Danny wanted Warren and Holiday but not Turner. I don't have an issue with Danny not settling for a package he doesn't place any value to. If Indy offers up one of those guys in addition to Turner, I think Danny ultimately does the deal because then he's least getting a player the team wants.

How about the first round pick they offered ? You know how much marginal utility Danny assigns on each pick

A late first round pick can be acquired for cash on draft night, honestly. We're not talking about a pick projected to be in the lottery. If Danny essentially viewed the return as two players he didn't want and a pick in the 20-30 range, then that's not value.

Indys pick would most likely be in the 17-22 range .. those are not very easy to obtain.

The way some fans on here form an opinion about Danny’s moves is :
Wait to see what Danny will haul from a trade negotiation.. look at it from 5 different perspective and talk their selves that this the absolute correct decision... defend Danny’s moves even if to a neutral fan those are indefensible ...

[hpantazo]

Pritchard : wow you get Turner and Mcdermott!  You will love them. You owe me

Ainge:  what kind of special you smokin??

This is how I envision things went down 

Would you be very upset if we S&T Hayward to Indy and received from them - Turner plus McDermott plus a 2022 first rounder or a similar pick?
I can guarantee you most people would be praising Danny and tell how good of a trader he is.

And then most of the same people would be calling for Turner and McDermott to be shipped out of town by midseason and for Ainge to be fired because those two have no value.


You can reasonably argue about the value of Turner, McDermott and a late 1st as a return over a TPE and cap flexibility that allowed us to get Tristan Thompson and Teague, but you cannot make a reasonable argument that Ainge regrets passing on this.

For one, there was no real opportunity to make that deal, the Pacers are misdirecting from the fact that they couldn't/wouldn't match the offer Charlotte gave to Hayward.

And second, from all we know about Ainge and Stevens and what they value over the past several years, they do not want guys like Turner and McDermott. They would rot on the bench here.

[RJ87]

If the Cs were going to go into the tax, it sure as heck wasn't going to be for Turner and McDermott. That's why Danny wanted more in return.

If this TPE goes through with CHA, I am more than happy with the decision. Hayward gets more money, we get better, cheaper assets, and Indy gets...nothing.

Sometimes people regret the decisions they made in the heat of the moment. It's pretty clear Pritchard is feeling the aftermath of not trading for Gordon Hayward.

We wouldn’t be in the tax after Kanter and Poirier were moved. Also why so many on here assume we are better with Thompson and Teague minus a second rounder versus Turner and Mac dermott ?
It’s debatable but it’s not obvious which option makes our team better

Because it's pretty obvious the Celtics just aren't impressed with Turner. They don't see his fit on this team and they didn't like what they heard when they called around to gauge his trade value. I think fans need to come to grips with the fact that just because you think you've identified the missing piece for this team, it doesn't mean the Celtics front office feels the same way.

I don’t think turner is the missing piece I just think certain statements are not obvious..

If reports are true, Danny wanted Warren and Holiday but not Turner. I don't have an issue with Danny not settling for a package he doesn't place any value to. If Indy offers up one of those guys in addition to Turner, I think Danny ultimately does the deal because then he's least getting a player the team wants.

How about the first round pick they offered ? You know how much marginal utility Danny assigns on each pick

A late first round pick can be acquired for cash on draft night, honestly. We're not talking about a pick projected to be in the lottery. If Danny essentially viewed the return as two players he didn't want and a pick in the 20-30 range, then that's not value.

Indys pick would most likely be in the 17-22 range .. those are not very easy to obtain.

The way some fans on here form an opinion about Danny’s moves is :
Wait to see what Danny will haul from a trade negotiation.. look at it from 5 different perspective and talk their selves that this the absolute correct decision... defend Danny’s moves even if to a neutral fan those are indefensible ...

Indy would've had the 24th pick in this past draft and they'd be adding Gordon. I don't see how he would've made them worse.

And as I said in another thread, Turner played with four of our players last summer with Team USA (when Popp trusted Jaylen to defend opposing center more than him). The front office likely had all the intel they needed in evaluating his fit here and decided he wasn't a guy they wanted. If Indy offered Ainge something he deemed to be of value, he likely would've agreed to terms.

[KGs Knee]

This seems like an admission Myles Turner sucks and now everyone knows it.

[RPGenerate]

This guy's just mad that his whole roster is just a hodgepodge of ill fitting talent that's destined to ride the treadmill of mediocrity.