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Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #780 on: November 19, 2020, 07:39:23 PM »

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I don't get the Semi hate.

He hits threes at 38%. He hits corner threes at an elite 45%. He is a top notch defender at the 3/4 positions. He is a good 10th man in the rotation guy for under $2 million a year.

If you are expecting him to dribble/drive the lane, be an exceptional passer, or draw fouls to get to the line, yeah, you will be disappointed but that's not his game. He plays a role and he does it very well for his pay grade.

My guess is Semi will be a better all around player next year than either first rounder Ainge just took. And if Ainge doesn't think so, picking him up as salary filler for a trade is a good thing.

Just don't understand the moaning and groaning of making the absolute right move in picking up Semi's option.


The issue is that he doesn’t put the ball in the hoop.

He’s 482nd in the NBA in scoring per possession.  We literally play 4-on-5 when he’s out there.  The majority of his 3PTs are with nobody within 6 or more feet, because teams are doubling off him.  If teams have a defender closer than six feet, he shoots beliw 30%.

His defense isn’t good enough to make up for the zero contribution on offense.  He doesn’t rebound, and he’s not a good passer. He’s cheap, but he’s borderline useless.

But he's a third stringer who just does his role, I mean I get the hate if he's off the bench but he's on the end of the bench.

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #781 on: November 19, 2020, 07:41:07 PM »

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I don't get the Semi hate.

He hits threes at 38%. He hits corner threes at an elite 45%. He is a top notch defender at the 3/4 positions. He is a good 10th man in the rotation guy for under $2 million a year.

If you are expecting him to dribble/drive the lane, be an exceptional passer, or draw fouls to get to the line, yeah, you will be disappointed but that's not his game. He plays a role and he does it very well for his pay grade.

My guess is Semi will be a better all around player next year than either first rounder Ainge just took. And if Ainge doesn't think so, picking him up as salary filler for a trade is a good thing.

Just don't understand the moaning and groaning of making the absolute right move in picking up Semi's option.

The issue is that he doesn’t put the ball in the hoop.

He’s 482nd in the NBA in scoring per possession.  We literally play 4-on-5 when he’s out there.  The majority of his 3PTs are with nobody within 6 or more feet, because teams are doubling off him.  If teams have a defender closer than six feet, he shoots beliw 30%.

His defense isn’t good enough to make up for the zero contribution on offense.  He doesn’t rebound, and he’s not a good passer. He’s cheap, but he’s borderline useless.

bingo  ;D

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #782 on: November 19, 2020, 07:41:32 PM »

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Boston keeping semi. Gross

tradeable contract.

And the dude is making $1.75m. This is like complaining about your 99-cent McDonald's cheeseburger.

dont you just hate when you ask for the medium rare burger and McDonald's burns the meat?

What meat?  :D

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #783 on: November 19, 2020, 07:47:36 PM »

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I don't get the Semi hate.

He hits threes at 38%. He hits corner threes at an elite 45%. He is a top notch defender at the 3/4 positions. He is a good 10th man in the rotation guy for under $2 million a year.

If you are expecting him to dribble/drive the lane, be an exceptional passer, or draw fouls to get to the line, yeah, you will be disappointed but that's not his game. He plays a role and he does it very well for his pay grade.

My guess is Semi will be a better all around player next year than either first rounder Ainge just took. And if Ainge doesn't think so, picking him up as salary filler for a trade is a good thing.

Just don't understand the moaning and groaning of making the absolute right move in picking up Semi's option.


The issue is that he doesn’t put the ball in the hoop.

He’s 482nd in the NBA in scoring per possession.  We literally play 4-on-5 when he’s out there.  The majority of his 3PTs are with nobody within 6 or more feet, because teams are doubling off him.  If teams have a defender closer than six feet, he shoots beliw 30%.

His defense isn’t good enough to make up for the zero contribution on offense.  He doesn’t rebound, and he’s not a good passer. He’s cheap, but he’s borderline useless.

But he's a third stringer who just does his role, I mean I get the hate if he's off the bench but he's on the end of the bench.

He’s not, though.  He played in 69 games at 15 mpg.  That means he’s playing roughly 1/3 of every game.

Think about that:  1/3 of every game we quite literally play 4-on-5.


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Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #784 on: November 19, 2020, 07:50:39 PM »

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Boston keeping semi. Gross

tradeable contract.

And the dude is making $1.75m. This is like complaining about your 99-cent McDonald's cheeseburger.

dont you just hate when you ask for the medium rare burger and McDonald's burns the meat?

What meat?  :D

lol .... eat chikin !!!

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #785 on: November 19, 2020, 08:44:13 PM »

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Honestly if this ends with Hayward just signing with a team like ATL or NYK outright and we get nothing in return, I'll be ticked.
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Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #786 on: November 19, 2020, 08:46:55 PM »

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https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1329599060764921862?s=21

He gone. Question is are the Cs getting anything for him.

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #787 on: November 19, 2020, 08:47:23 PM »

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Another trade Ainge tried to “win” that’s ultimately left us empty-handed? GH would be crazy not to sign with the Knicks given the marketing opportunities. 

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #788 on: November 19, 2020, 08:47:35 PM »

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I don't get the Semi hate.

He hits threes at 38%. He hits corner threes at an elite 45%. He is a top notch defender at the 3/4 positions. He is a good 10th man in the rotation guy for under $2 million a year.

If you are expecting him to dribble/drive the lane, be an exceptional passer, or draw fouls to get to the line, yeah, you will be disappointed but that's not his game. He plays a role and he does it very well for his pay grade.

My guess is Semi will be a better all around player next year than either first rounder Ainge just took. And if Ainge doesn't think so, picking him up as salary filler for a trade is a good thing.

Just don't understand the moaning and groaning of making the absolute right move in picking up Semi's option.


The issue is that he doesn’t put the ball in the hoop.

He’s 482nd in the NBA in scoring per possession.  We literally play 4-on-5 when he’s out there.  The majority of his 3PTs are with nobody within 6 or more feet, because teams are doubling off him.  If teams have a defender closer than six feet, he shoots beliw 30%.

His defense isn’t good enough to make up for the zero contribution on offense.  He doesn’t rebound, and he’s not a good passer. He’s cheap, but he’s borderline useless.

But he's a third stringer who just does his role, I mean I get the hate if he's off the bench but he's on the end of the bench.

He’s not, though.  He played in 69 games at 15 mpg.  That means he’s playing roughly 1/3 of every game.

Think about that:  1/3 of every game we quite literally play 4-on-5.

Were the Celtics even fully healthy? I think it’s indicative of that which was the reason he even got 15 minutes.

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #789 on: November 19, 2020, 08:48:33 PM »

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https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1329599060764921862?s=21

He gone. Question is are the Cs getting anything for him.

why is that tweet so harsh. Is there some bad blood between the parties?

Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #790 on: November 19, 2020, 08:51:08 PM »

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https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1329599060764921862?s=21

He gone. Question is are the Cs getting anything for him.

This sounds like speculation.

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« Reply #791 on: November 19, 2020, 08:51:42 PM »

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https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1329599060764921862?s=21

He gone. Question is are the Cs getting anything for him.

why is that tweet so harsh. Is there some bad blood between the parties?

Because Fake News sites need to stand out to get attention.


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Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #792 on: November 19, 2020, 09:03:29 PM »

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Zero percent surprised Hayward wants out of Boston. Something is clearly sour down there in Boston these days. I just hope we don't eventually drive away Tatum, too.

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« Reply #793 on: November 19, 2020, 09:06:38 PM »

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https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1329599060764921862?s=21

He gone. Question is are the Cs getting anything for him.

why is that tweet so harsh. Is there some bad blood between the parties?

That's what I'm not understanding—I keep thinking I've missed something. Up until a couple days ago, it was simply a matter of whether Boston and Hayward would do a sign-and-trade or negotiate a new deal. Since then, a lot of people here have been talking like there's a huge rift between Hayward and the Cs, without a concrete explanation of what and why.
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Re: Shams: Hayward opts out, hits free agency
« Reply #794 on: November 19, 2020, 09:08:15 PM »

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Zero percent surprised Hayward wants out of Boston. Something is clearly sour down there in Boston these days. I just hope we don't eventually drive away Tatum, too.

Is it? Guys have different motivations. Kyrie wanted to play with Kevin Durant. Al wanted his last big pay day and the C's weren't willing to overpay. Gordon... I don't know what he wants (does he?). We've also extended Jaylen and Marcus in that time frame. Enes opted back in. So there's enough to show that guys like playing here fine enough. I think the crux of it is that fans still think guys should be honored to play for franchises when in reality this is business first and foremost.
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