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Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2020, 01:47:28 PM »

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Is there a path for Hayward to opt out and leave? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if he just wants to leave Boston via free agency I think the Hawks and Knicks are basically his only options. Otherwise, he'd have to work with Boston on getting traded somewhere either after opting in or signing and getting traded.
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Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2020, 01:50:57 PM »

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Is there a path for Hayward to opt out and leave? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if he just wants to leave Boston via free agency I think the Hawks and Knicks are basically his only options. Otherwise, he'd have to work with Boston on getting traded somewhere either after opting in or signing and getting traded.

Charlotte and Suns too I think.  I think Suns are a dark horse, especially if they don't work out the Chris Paul thing.

Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2020, 01:55:12 PM »

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At this point if he opts in I'm expecting a trade

Agree. I expect Turner and Brogdon for Hayward and Langford and maybe we through in VP.  Numbers look good.

I think the Cs would be perfectly satisfied acquiring just Brogdon (not even Turner) in a Hayward deal. I don't see any chance Indy gives him up, but I would be psyched if it happened.

Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2020, 12:56:20 PM »

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I wish Hayward would make his decision already.

Team has already paid him $91,599,092.00, the LEAST the guy can do is either opt in or out prior the [dang] draft.
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Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2020, 01:05:31 PM »

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I wish Hayward would make his decision already.

Team has already paid him $91,599,092.00, the LEAST the guy can do is either opt in or out prior the [dang] draft.
Is he worried he will get traded if he opts in? Is he trying to dictate where to be traded to

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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2020, 01:10:09 PM »

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  Oh my how Boston will hate Hayward for opting in. Iíve never seen a guy who hasnít said a bad word once be so disliked here. Blamed for injury. Puke.

I agree.  I don't get all of this angst.  The guy is getting hurt.  Freak injuries that can happen to anyone.  I have no clue how this is going to play out and would not be surprised if Hayward resigns with the C's with a no trade clause.  I have never heard the Haywards talk about not liking Boston nor Boston (Team) not liking him.  Everything we have read is all Media click bait driven.  Maybe Hayward approached Danny and Brad about wanting to go home to Indiana.  I honestly feel that the Front office and Brad already know what is going on and will not be surprised when Danny states as such.  Gordon wanted to be here long term and finish what he started or Gordon wanted his wife and kids to be closer to family since he plans on retiring and living in Indiana after he plays.  I don't think that what is going on behind the scenes is actually knowns by anyone except the Haywards, Danny and brad.

Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2020, 01:13:54 PM »

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I wish Hayward would make his decision already.

Team has already paid him $91,599,092.00, the LEAST the guy can do is either opt in or out prior the [dang] draft.
Is he worried he will get traded if he opts in? Is he trying to dictate where to be traded to

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Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2020, 01:42:57 PM »

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  Oh my how Boston will hate Hayward for opting in. Iíve never seen a guy who hasnít said a bad word once be so disliked here. Blamed for injury. Puke.

I agree.  I don't get all of this angst.  The guy is getting hurt.  Freak injuries that can happen to anyone.  I have no clue how this is going to play out and would not be surprised if Hayward resigns with the C's with a no trade clause.  I have never heard the Haywards talk about not liking Boston nor Boston (Team) not liking him.  Everything we have read is all Media click bait driven.  Maybe Hayward approached Danny and Brad about wanting to go home to Indiana.  I honestly feel that the Front office and Brad already know what is going on and will not be surprised when Danny states as such.  Gordon wanted to be here long term and finish what he started or Gordon wanted his wife and kids to be closer to family since he plans on retiring and living in Indiana after he plays.  I don't think that what is going on behind the scenes is actually knowns by anyone except the Haywards, Danny and brad.

Pretty much spot on.

The best outcome of all this would be for all the rumors to be nothing but hot air and for Hayward to stay in Celtic green.  I think most folks just don't get how much better of a team we have been when Hayward has been healthy and replacing his talent is not going to be easy if we lose him.   Pretty much every trade scenario I have seen speculated on leaves us as a worse team.

Obviously, if he truly does want to leave, we should try to get the best value we can out of that situation.  But it's very doubtful we'll end up in better shape.
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Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2020, 01:57:42 PM »

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At this point if he opts in I'm expecting a trade
There could well be a major trade, but maybe involving Smart instead of him.

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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2020, 02:33:13 PM »

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  Oh my how Boston will hate Hayward for opting in. Iíve never seen a guy who hasnít said a bad word once be so disliked here. Blamed for injury. Puke.

I agree.  I don't get all of this angst.  The guy is getting hurt.  Freak injuries that can happen to anyone.  I have no clue how this is going to play out and would not be surprised if Hayward resigns with the C's with a no trade clause.  I have never heard the Haywards talk about not liking Boston nor Boston (Team) not liking him.  Everything we have read is all Media click bait driven.  Maybe Hayward approached Danny and Brad about wanting to go home to Indiana.  I honestly feel that the Front office and Brad already know what is going on and will not be surprised when Danny states as such.  Gordon wanted to be here long term and finish what he started or Gordon wanted his wife and kids to be closer to family since he plans on retiring and living in Indiana after he plays.  I don't think that what is going on behind the scenes is actually knowns by anyone except the Haywards, Danny and brad.

Pretty much spot on.

The best outcome of all this would be for all the rumors to be nothing but hot air and for Hayward to stay in Celtic green.  I think most folks just don't get how much better of a team we have been when Hayward has been healthy and replacing his talent is not going to be easy if we lose him.   Pretty much every trade scenario I have seen speculated on leaves us as a worse team.

Obviously, if he truly does want to leave, we should try to get the best value we can out of that situation.  But it's very doubtful we'll end up in better shape.

Yeah, it'd have to be a sure thing if Hayward did actually want to stay and we still traded him. Like Jrue AND Turner for Hayward/picks. If we can renegotiate his deal, that would be best for all parties involved. It would give Gordon some long term security and Cs fans could stop freaking out about how he is the worst max FA ever (because he wouldn't be anymore). What he brings to the team really is underrated and his game should age gracefully if he can somehow stay healthy.

I know salary will become a problem down the road, but perhaps if we hit on a PG at #14, it will allow us to deal Kemba after next season. Of course Marcus can always step into that role, as well. Anyway, just wanted to echo your statement that keeping Hayward would be ideal, but understand that if he wants to leave, then we should try to improve however we can.

Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2020, 02:33:28 PM »

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  With all these rumors with the #2 pick why is Gordon not brought up? Is he not the better player than Smart by a lot? Not that Iím saying GS would ever do that.
  But wouldnít Hayward for there better than smart/ jrue/ or waiting in a big man? Iíd think that Steph/ Klay/ Hayward/ Wiggins/ Draymond plus whoever stole 14 for insurance would be much better. Am I crazy?

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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2020, 02:52:59 PM »

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  With all these rumors with the #2 pick why is Gordon not brought up? Is he not the better player than Smart by a lot? Not that Iím saying GS would ever do that.
  But wouldnít Hayward for there better than smart/ jrue/ or waiting in a big man? Iíd think that Steph/ Klay/ Hayward/ Wiggins/ Draymond plus whoever stole 14 for insurance would be much better. Am I crazy?

I don't think you are crazy and that's why I'd rather Gordon stay.  If he truly has issues being 4th fiddle here then he would not be happy in GSW.  If the rumors are true it seems Gordon wants to be the man vs winning a championship.  Now to the other side.  I've never heard from Hayward any of this kind of concern other then feeling bad about being hurt so I don't even know if I believe the rumors he wants to leave.  It would not shock me if the offseason went like this.

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Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2020, 03:58:38 PM »

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I see other players are making opt in decisions.  When is Hayward's deadline? 

Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2020, 04:20:40 PM »

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I see other players are making opt in decisions.  When is Hayward's deadline?

This Thursday, Nov. 19th is the opt-in date for both Hayward and Kanter (according to Keith Smith on twitter).

Re: Hayward to opt in?
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2020, 04:33:32 PM »

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I will not be surprised at him waiting till after the draft then opting out, just to screw with the organization.

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