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Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1095 on: November 30, 2020, 01:42:19 PM »

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Speaking of Twitter rants against Republicans, after days of railing against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as an enemy of the people, President Trump has now directed his vitriol against Governor Kemp, for apparently failing to intervene in the Georgia election.



Somehow his rants don't quite have the same force now that he's a lame duck president but I'm sure most Republicans who are keeping their heads down don't want to make themselves targets.
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Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1096 on: November 30, 2020, 02:51:59 PM »

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I'm claiming the Celtics as 2020 NBA champs. 

And don't tell me that they lost to the Heat, or the Lakers won in the Finals.  That was rigged and I have proof.

Hahaha Adam Silver, you better overturn the Championship results in the Celtics favor or feel the wrath of our very fine Celtics bloggers!  ;D

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1097 on: November 30, 2020, 04:47:53 PM »

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I'm claiming the Celtics as 2020 NBA champs. 

And don't tell me that they lost to the Heat, or the Lakers won in the Finals.  That was rigged and I have proof.

Hahaha Adam Silver, you better overturn the Championship results in the Celtics favor or feel the wrath of our very fine Celtics bloggers!  ;D
Massive amounts of referee fraud... whistles were found in creeks...

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1098 on: December 01, 2020, 12:00:23 AM »

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Speaking of Twitter rants against Republicans, after days of railing against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as an enemy of the people, President Trump has now directed his vitriol against Governor Kemp, for apparently failing to intervene in the Georgia election.



Somehow his rants don't quite have the same force now that he's a lame duck president but I'm sure most Republicans who are keeping their heads down don't want to make themselves targets.

Kemp has been implicated in foul play since the beginning, which is mentioned in Sidney Powell's civil lawsuit:
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

He allegedly rushed the purchase of Dominion machines in 2019 (budgeting $150 mil) for use in the 2020 election, despite several parties warning/deciding against its use due to security issues within the past few years (e.g., Texas Board of Elections; Klobuchar; Liz Warren). Funny enough, Stacey Abrams fought against his purchase of 30,000 machines.   While not included in this initial suit, Powell also claims that Kemp (among others) received kickbacks for the Dominion purchases.

After 5 requests and several reverse rulings, they machines are apparently being impounded.  I imagine they've already been wiped clean, though.  But if there have been bipartisan concerns about the security of the machines, and GA officials have nothing to hide, then why would they not willingly cooperate with an audit to validate the election results?

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1099 on: December 01, 2020, 01:18:17 AM »

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Speaking of Twitter rants against Republicans, after days of railing against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as an enemy of the people, President Trump has now directed his vitriol against Governor Kemp, for apparently failing to intervene in the Georgia election.



Somehow his rants don't quite have the same force now that he's a lame duck president but I'm sure most Republicans who are keeping their heads down don't want to make themselves targets.

Kemp has been implicated in foul play since the beginning, which is mentioned in Sidney Powell's civil lawsuit:
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

He allegedly rushed the purchase of Dominion machines in 2019 (budgeting $150 mil) for use in the 2020 election, despite several parties warning/deciding against its use due to security issues within the past few years (e.g., Texas Board of Elections; Klobuchar; Liz Warren). Funny enough, Stacey Abrams fought against his purchase of 30,000 machines.   While not included in this initial suit, Powell also claims that Kemp (among others) received kickbacks for the Dominion purchases.

After 5 requests and several reverse rulings, they machines are apparently being impounded.  I imagine they've already been wiped clean, though.  But if there have been bipartisan concerns about the security of the machines, and GA officials have nothing to hide, then why would they not willingly cooperate with an audit to validate the election results?

looks like you are a true believer. I dont know which is better the true believers or those who know but are just going along for the ride.

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1100 on: December 01, 2020, 03:11:06 PM »

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Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d?fbclid=IwAR2NXm1hzbYSHLzV6vmPLTjSwqnQIt-BlAc_dWyq3j0E0asNHcMTcWwWAx8


Quite a good read:
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the election was stolen, and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election....


Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.

I would suggest you read the whole article. Very eye opening for those Trumpers who are holding out hope and those who say - "it will all be revealed shortly"....

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1101 on: December 01, 2020, 06:33:36 PM »

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Speaking of Twitter rants against Republicans, after days of railing against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as an enemy of the people, President Trump has now directed his vitriol against Governor Kemp, for apparently failing to intervene in the Georgia election.



Somehow his rants don't quite have the same force now that he's a lame duck president but I'm sure most Republicans who are keeping their heads down don't want to make themselves targets.

Kemp has been implicated in foul play since the beginning, which is mentioned in Sidney Powell's civil lawsuit:
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

He allegedly rushed the purchase of Dominion machines in 2019 (budgeting $150 mil) for use in the 2020 election, despite several parties warning/deciding against its use due to security issues within the past few years (e.g., Texas Board of Elections; Klobuchar; Liz Warren). Funny enough, Stacey Abrams fought against his purchase of 30,000 machines.   While not included in this initial suit, Powell also claims that Kemp (among others) received kickbacks for the Dominion purchases.

After 5 requests and several reverse rulings, they machines are apparently being impounded.  I imagine they've already been wiped clean, though.  But if there have been bipartisan concerns about the security of the machines, and GA officials have nothing to hide, then why would they not willingly cooperate with an audit to validate the election results?

The one plausible answer to your question would be that the allegations do not have enough  credibility to warrant an additional audit.   Any system that would investigate all allegations at face value would be forever stuck in the muck of disproving allegations.  A functional system needs to have criteria to determine allegations worthy of addressing.  We either trust those systems or we don't.

I have a question for you:  Do you think Trump and his lawyers are withholding proof of widespread fraud?  In other words, they have the proof, but just aren't sharing it.

Up to now over 30 court cases have been lost, thrown out or withdrawn.  In addition, the department of homeland security, the department of Justice, the FBI, both Dem and Republican governors, Secretaries of State, and election Commissioners in battleground states uniformly deny evidence of widespread fraud or conspiracy to commit widespread fraud.  Unless you trust absolutely no one who disagrees with you, this just might be the most sweeping, one-sided, convincing failure to prove a case in the history of the world.   

But back to the question -- Are Trump and his legal team withholding evidence that would prove what Trump continues to claim? And if so, what are they waiting for?


Oh, one last thing: I wonder if it ever crosses Trump's mind (of course it doesn't) that what he's attempting to prove is a fundamental failure of America.  It would be under his watch that America utterly failed - perhaps the very opposite of MAGA. 

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1102 on: December 01, 2020, 07:17:12 PM »

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Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d?fbclid=IwAR2NXm1hzbYSHLzV6vmPLTjSwqnQIt-BlAc_dWyq3j0E0asNHcMTcWwWAx8


Quite a good read:
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the election was stolen, and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election....


Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.

I would suggest you read the whole article. Very eye opening for those Trumpers who are holding out hope and those who say - "it will all be revealed shortly"....


Yeah, just like Hunter Biden's laptop evidence, the Obama spying accusations, that the pandemic was going to be gone months ago, and everything else.

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1103 on: December 02, 2020, 12:28:56 AM »

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Trump has raised more than 170M since election day pushing this voting fraud nonsense.  Of course, most of it goes to paying down campaign debt and funding his new PAC not to legal challenges.  One thing that can be said about Trump is he is a Grade A conman. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-donald-trump-raises-more-than-170-million-since-election-day-as-he-pushes-baseless-fraud-claims/ar-BB1bwKBp

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1104 on: December 04, 2020, 12:22:09 AM »

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Here's one of the Trump campaign's witnesses. It's pretty funny I must admit. She's actually talking to one of the people who are trying to help the Trump campaign win its legal challenge.

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Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1105 on: December 09, 2020, 08:25:14 AM »

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Even Tump's own SCOTUS appointees don't have the time of day for this bozo's nonsensical lawsuits. The entire Republican party just makes themselves look dumber by the day.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/us/supreme-court-republican-challenge-pennsylvania-vote.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20201209&instance_id=24852&nl=the-morning&regi_id=99005552&segment_id=46438&te=1&user_id=465ca9b3a3b4785af6786a77bbf2f5b8

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1106 on: December 09, 2020, 08:50:12 AM »

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Even Tump's own SCOTUS appointees don't have the time of day for this bozo's nonsensical lawsuits. The entire Republican party just makes themselves look dumber by the day.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/us/supreme-court-republican-challenge-pennsylvania-vote.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20201209&instance_id=24852&nl=the-morning&regi_id=99005552&segment_id=46438&te=1&user_id=465ca9b3a3b4785af6786a77bbf2f5b8

There are still so many Americans buying into the lie.  It is amazing the power he still wields (and of course he will not let go).   Influential republicans are still backing him, money keeps pouring in, and rhetoric from his base sounds more and more aggressive. He's convinced his people that he/they have been wronged by a system gone bad and on the verge of being taken over by socialists.   I don't think the Mitch McConnells, Kevin McCarthys, and Lindsey Grahams of the world can stop this, but they can put a dent in it.  What is the matter with them?

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1107 on: December 09, 2020, 02:56:36 PM »

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Will the Republicans ever stop?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-election-special-counsel-letter?fbclid=IwAR0BSOw4VUhgZgKR7vwHl_plzp1vDFN-wrL_qSbCaz8QXl16w-43IpDUz3E

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More than two dozen House Republicans are calling on President Trump to direct Attorney General William Barr to appoint a special counsel to investigate November's presidential election, according to a letter obtained by Fox News.

The letter, sent Wednesday morning, claimed that Barr's Justice Department has not been taking adequate action to address the matter.

"The Department of Justice has been asked on multiple occasions to launch an investigation into this matter, but inaction from the department along with comments made by the attorney general indicate a lack of willingness to investigate the irregularities your campaign and other elected officials across the nation have alleged," the letter said.

The message was signed by 27 Republican members of Congress, including Reps. Lance Gooden, R-Texas, Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, Thomas Massie, R-Ky., and Ted Budd, R-N.C. It follows a nearly identical letter Gooden sent on his own last week. A spokesperson from Gooden's office said the new letter was the result of "an outpouring of support" from Gooden's fellow Republicans.

Gooden's home state of Texas recently went to the Supreme Court with a case against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, alleging that the four battleground states improperly changed their election procedures. The lawsuit calls for special elections to take place in those states in order to appoint presidential electors, or if electors have already been appointed, for state legislatures to appoint new ones.


Barr has ALREADY said there's NO PROOF! Are these Republican doing this for show? Don't they know that they are the ACTUAL threat to REAL democracy?

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1108 on: December 09, 2020, 03:22:37 PM »

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The hardline GOP needs to sit down with Miss Elsa.

Their incessant rambling and baseless claims need to go away.
2021 CelticsStrong Historical Draft Indiana Pacers:
C- Marc Gasol(16-17)Jeff Ruland(83-84)Theo Ratliff(00-01)
PF- Dan Roundfield(79-80)Paul Milsap(14-15)Dino Radja(95-96)
SF- Dan Marjerle(92-93)Rashard Lewis(08-09)Jalen Rose(99-00)
SG- Reggie Lewis(91-92)World B. Free(78-79)Dell Curry(93-94)
PG- Steve Nash(05-06)Fat Lever(87-88)Tony Allen(12-13)

Re: Election Day (Congrats President Elect Biden)
« Reply #1109 on: December 09, 2020, 03:23:57 PM »

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Will the Republicans ever stop?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-election-special-counsel-letter?fbclid=IwAR0BSOw4VUhgZgKR7vwHl_plzp1vDFN-wrL_qSbCaz8QXl16w-43IpDUz3E

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More than two dozen House Republicans are calling on President Trump to direct Attorney General William Barr to appoint a special counsel to investigate November's presidential election, according to a letter obtained by Fox News.

The letter, sent Wednesday morning, claimed that Barr's Justice Department has not been taking adequate action to address the matter.

"The Department of Justice has been asked on multiple occasions to launch an investigation into this matter, but inaction from the department along with comments made by the attorney general indicate a lack of willingness to investigate the irregularities your campaign and other elected officials across the nation have alleged," the letter said.

The message was signed by 27 Republican members of Congress, including Reps. Lance Gooden, R-Texas, Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, Thomas Massie, R-Ky., and Ted Budd, R-N.C. It follows a nearly identical letter Gooden sent on his own last week. A spokesperson from Gooden's office said the new letter was the result of "an outpouring of support" from Gooden's fellow Republicans.

Gooden's home state of Texas recently went to the Supreme Court with a case against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, alleging that the four battleground states improperly changed their election procedures. The lawsuit calls for special elections to take place in those states in order to appoint presidential electors, or if electors have already been appointed, for state legislatures to appoint new ones.


Barr has ALREADY said there's NO PROOF! Are these Republican doing this for show? Don't they know that they are the ACTUAL threat to REAL democracy?

Maybe they've just finally received the message that has been communicated over the past year or so that Barr isn't credible  ;)