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15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« on: September 28, 2020, 12:00:57 AM »

Offline Eric_Suede

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I've been screaming this for the last 3 years and here we go again. Up by 6 in the 4th quarter. What do we do? Shoot nothing but 3's for pretty much the rest of the game. Go ahead guys. Tell me how I am off track and that the Celtic's are "above average" and that Tatum is a bonafide 3 pt shooter. Pathetic. Repeat of a few years back in game 7 when we had Cleveland on their heels , up by 5 midway through 4th quarter but NO, we had to shoot a barrage of 3 pointers because for some reason they want to win "in style". F that nonsense. ESPECIALLY in the 4th quarter when they regained the lead they should've ATTACKED ATTACKED ATTACKED the rim.

My personal favorite is when they cross half court and within 5 seconds (not having drained the clock or moved the ball) opted to shoot for 3 (SMART & WALKER) brilliant.  ::)  ::) This is why I vote for Brad to be fired. He just stays there and looks. What is the problem? How hard is it to just say "STOP SHOOTING 3's Marcus!!" SMH. Just annoyed. Celtics were the better team and this year should've been a repeat of the classic rivalry Lakers vs Celtics. Ahh well. Doesn't matter who we bring in or what personnel changes we make. Brad Stevens is still the coach and he'll still implement the "Live by the 3, Die by the 3" Philosophy. Knowing good and well we don't have any bonafide 3 point shooters on our roster. Hate to say it , being a lifelong Laker Hater but it looks like we're going to be tied at 17 folks.

Go ahead guys, Break down how i'm wrong and try to point to something else as to why the C's lost the game tonight. They bricked 3's the last 6 minutes of the quarter. I don't recall them hitting even one. Oh my bad maybe once when it was like 40 seconds left in the game.  >:(

Fun Fact # Every game in this series where Celtics shot 40+ 3's resulted in a LOSS. Less than 40 (I actually suggest 25 or less) Win. I'm just saying. 
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Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2020, 12:09:37 AM »

Offline CelticsElite

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Ainge needs to draft a guard. Whether it’s a 2 way guard, or a sharp shooter, I don’t care.

Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2020, 12:21:27 AM »

Offline Eric_Suede

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Ainge needs to draft a guard. Whether it’s a 2 way guard, or a sharp shooter, I don’t care.

It needs to be a sharp shooter. If the Celtics insists on living by the 3 It makes sense that we obtain players who are consistent and are good 3 pt shooters. I'm just saying. We have good players ie Smart & Brown , who they're trying to Force to be great shooters and they simply are NOT. Like I said in my last thread. It's like Training a prime 1988 Mike Tyson to stick and move and box from the outside. Just madness. That's not who we are. I'm not sure what it's going to take for people to realize that. We're NOT the Warriors. Not sure whey they're trying to play like them.

Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2020, 12:22:19 AM »

Offline mr. dee

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Ainge needs to draft a guard. Whether it’s a 2 way guard, or a sharp shooter, I don’t care.

We have drafted Langford and I have high hopes for him. But I doubt Brad will give him enough opportunities to shine and develop. He was touted as a 3-dimensional scorer off the college and I'm hoping we will see a glimpse of it next season.

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2020, 12:37:37 AM »

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As much as I like him for his defensive tenacity and his intensity, Smart has no business chucking up 13 3's in this game or any other game. He never has been a great shooter and he never will be.

Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2020, 12:40:04 AM »

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smart took way too many shots, but part of the problem was kemba's foul trouble.

i am going to say is that i am done with small PG's and i hope Danny is to. For the last 6 years we have been nothing but trying to hide them all playoff long and that is just too much of a difference in a series.

as big of a fan of hayward that i am, he is 90% gone by the ASG trade deadline if he ops in. if he ops out.
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Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2020, 01:29:29 AM »

Offline liam

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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2020, 01:40:40 AM »

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A sign of when this team is nervous is that they start to take panic 3s not in the flow of the offense. I have no problem taking open 3s in the flow of the offense, if Kemba is coming off a high screen or they get an open corner 3 from a drive and kick. Or a transition 3. The problem is the pull up 3s early in the clock or the ones where they move the ball above the break and someone takes a face up 3 that is contested, or ones where they fake, the defender doesn't jump, then they shoot anyway. I don't think those are good 3s unless you're Steph Curry. Not even Duncan Robinson takes those.

But...I'm not an NBA player, I'm sure a big part of it is shooter's mentality. It certainly is with Smart, he thinks every shot is going in, even the bad ones. And sometimes they do, which is why he keeps doing it.
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Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

We have good shooters, but the problem is that the whole league, especially the celtics think they are steph/klay level of shooters, well they are not
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2020, 02:04:12 AM »

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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

We have good shooters, but the problem is that the whole league, especially the celtics think they are steph/klay level of shooters, well they are not

Yeah look at what the shooting got the Celtics.

They need bruisers in the paint. Guys who will bang down low. Guys who will grab rebounds and defense. Jokic, Nurkic, Porzingis, Adebayo, Giannis, Embiid, Davis, Vucevic...need big guys who will be able to outmatch them.


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Re: 15 for 46. Walker & Smart (7 for 23) from 3. - I rest my case
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2020, 02:23:37 AM »

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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

We have good shooters, but the problem is that the whole league, especially the celtics think they are steph/klay level of shooters, well they are not

Yeah look at what the shooting got the Celtics.

They need bruisers in the paint. Guys who will bang down low. Guys who will grab rebounds and defense. Jokic, Nurkic, Porzingis, Adebayo, Giannis, Embiid, Davis, Vucevic...need big guys who will be able to outmatch them.

The point is that you gotta work with what you got. Kemba was abused throught the playoffs, but failed to use his speed to make up for the difference on the other end.
Brown/tatum should have averaged about 10 ft’s per game easily
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2020, 02:53:31 AM »

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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

We have good shooters, but the problem is that the whole league, especially the celtics think they are steph/klay level of shooters, well they are not

Most of our guys are decent shooters. But almost everyone on this team is a jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none types. We need specialists, especially on certain matchups.

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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2020, 04:59:52 AM »

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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

We have good shooters, but the problem is that the whole league, especially the celtics think they are steph/klay level of shooters, well they are not

Most of our guys are decent shooters. But almost everyone on this team is a jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none types. We need specialists, especially on certain matchups.

Agreed. We have 5 guys with similar skillsets on offense, with Tatum and Kemba having an edge because they are elite at shot creation. This is gonna sound like blasphemy but if Eddie House was out there instead of Kemba and/or Posey instead of Hayward... we might’ve pulled this one out.

Kemba >>> House and Hayward >>> Posey if you’re comparing absolute talent but this is a team game and guys have roles out there on the floor. Hayward isn’t being maximized when we run things through Tatum or run action for Brown.

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Yeah, the shooting is what won Maimi the game. We need more good shooters.

We have good shooters, but the problem is that the whole league, especially the celtics think they are steph/klay level of shooters, well they are not

Yeah look at what the shooting got the Celtics.

They need bruisers in the paint. Guys who will bang down low. Guys who will grab rebounds and defense. Jokic, Nurkic, Porzingis, Adebayo, Giannis, Embiid, Davis, Vucevic...need big guys who will be able to outmatch them.

You say we need big guys.... but 5 of those big guys you named were all bounced out of the playoffs before the Celtics were.  The fans of those teams are probably saying "we need more perimeter players!"  Not that I disagree with you entirely, but I just think there's a lot more too it than simply needing a big man.
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I stand by the opinion that Brad is just not the coach for final minutes and most of contenders' final games are to be decided in final minutes. Just as when a team runs out of time in it's posession, Brad runs out of the ideas and reactions. Just stands and observes.

I know I use the word ''JUST'' to often, but I just can't help myself.  ;D