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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2020, 07:11:35 AM »

Offline ederson

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Inexcusable to blow two leads.

To blow a lead you much have to build it which by reading the threads is a very easy thing to  do

He’s a good coach but not a championship coach.

Nobody is a championship coach by birth right! A good coach is a good coach. Winning the title didn't make Carlisle better

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #106 on: September 18, 2020, 07:12:06 AM »

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LOL Of course not, an incredible question. Whatever this year, like all others but last year, he overachieved ours and board expectations. Our game is still enjoyable to watch (even in the last 2 games if you forget about 2 quarters), young players progress, he find a way to play correctly some role players. He has a lot of talent as a coach, but is till not arrived, like our 2 superstars... Some problems about ingame decisions ? Ok, but I prefer that than a coach who don't make progress players and team or is known as a bad tactic coach. He reached the top potential of IT/ AL team. He has to reach our full potential next year an do on... But I like the idea of ou process, CBS is very good to build on the long way. He doesn't have 3 years ago limitations and our superstars will be CBS guys from day 1. We have the biotop maybe only Spurs had on XXI centurie... We will do it. Patience.

But if next year, Danny reinforce the bench or/end our big number 1 (ag Theis), and w loose badly in PO, then of course it will be maybe time to begin to think if we need another coach to score te ball... But just by respect for everything he did to us, tjhe talent, the brain he showed, please don't think stupid thinks like that...

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #107 on: September 18, 2020, 07:25:44 AM »

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I don’t quite understand why people on here think that we should just crush the heat ..
They destroyed the bucks for a reason. They would probably give fits to a healthy warriors team from last 3 seasons. I don’t think lakers should be favored against the heat if Miami top 7 players are healthy ..
Heat gave the two best shooters still in the playoffs , plus 2 closers in Butler and Dragic plus a center that is almost as good as A. Davis yet is much stronger physically than him.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #108 on: September 18, 2020, 08:47:47 AM »

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lol No, what a ridiculous notion.

what this playoff run might show though is that we aren't there yet, but I honestly feel much closer this year than I did in the last two ECF. 

even if we lose this series, lets remember our two allstars are only 22 and 23 the future is bright. And this is Kembas first deep playoff run. Gordon likely opts in next year(he would be stupid not to). and we improve the bench, pick up some bigs. We will be back here.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #109 on: September 18, 2020, 08:48:44 AM »

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Definitely, because we've only made it to the ECF 3 out of the last 4 years. A qualified coach would have gotten us there all four! 

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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #110 on: September 18, 2020, 08:58:09 AM »

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No but he’s getting out coached this series by a noticeable margin. We’re the better team but we’re (barely) losing. That’s the edge coaching brings.

Trade CBS for Spoelstra and we’d be talking about a sweep.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #111 on: September 18, 2020, 09:04:45 AM »

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No but he’s getting out coached this series by a noticeable margin. We’re the better team but we’re (barely) losing. That’s the edge coaching brings.

Trade CBS for Spoelstra and we’d be talking about a sweep.

Lol

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #112 on: September 18, 2020, 09:11:11 AM »

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Glad to see the Return of Chicken Little...Clearly the sky is falling since we lost 2 close games and everyone must go asap!  8) If only we had a great organization like the Knicks or Suns, things would be so much more sunny.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #113 on: September 18, 2020, 09:12:15 AM »

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threads such as this one is why i avoid CS after celtic loses. the over reaction, rush to negativity, and silly hot takes is intolerable.

do better folks, please.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #114 on: September 18, 2020, 09:21:16 AM »

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BS can and will shoulder a significant amount of blame if the Cs do not make it out of the ECF. However fans need to keep things in perspective.

DA had to do cap gymnastics this past off season thanks to Kyrie, this left the Cs bench depleted. BS effectively came into the playoffs with a 6 man playoff capable rotation with the rest of the roster being flawed/young guys who are not typical 8 man rotation playoff guys on a finals team. The loss of Hayward was a major hit to this teams depth and shouldn't be overlooked.

The "older" vets on this roster Kemba has struggled, Hayward is hurt, and Kanter outside of Embiid minutes hasn't been a real factor.

The "inexperienced youth" has provided inconsistent production R Williams 12mpg, G Williams 11mpg

Wannamaker 18mpg and Semi 10mpg are realistically great 9th/10th options for a championship level team. Wannamaker in particular is playing well being pressed into a larger role but his talent level is not where it needs to be.




With all that said for this series the Cs desperately need at least 80% healthy Hayward. I would also take a shot in the 3rd quarter and give Waters a little run. When the Cs are giving up these one sided runs try him as a change of pace, can it really hurt?     


For next season and the future it will be really important that Langford develops into that 7th/8th man, I also think its really important to hit on this years draft pick. Either by trading up of hitting on #14 the Cs need to add a player who can adds higher end long term talent to this roster. 
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #115 on: September 18, 2020, 09:34:26 AM »

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No but he’s getting out coached this series by a noticeable margin. We’re the better team but we’re (barely) losing. That’s the edge coaching brings.

Trade CBS for Spoelstra and we’d be talking about a sweep.

You d be still complaining cause Spoelstra first falls +15p behind and then stars playing 

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #116 on: September 18, 2020, 09:40:05 AM »

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This thread may come back to bite me, but honestly, I have not witnessed a coach who seemed so overwhelmed by the moment vs the Heat.  His coaching decisions in the 2nd half of this game 2 v the Heat was abysmal.  Ok, Kanter had his sweet mini run in the first half. But the moment Bam starting going off, you don't keep him in the game. Where was Robert Williams? Grant was almost as bad. Bam destroyed us at the center position. The few minutes Rob played in game 1 vs Bam he actually held his own quite well. Brad is a stubborn arrogant coach.  The media and most fans proclaim him as the young genius.  Immune from basic criticism.  Well the gloves have come off.

This team is so much more talented than the Heat even with Hayward sitting out.  To be down 2-0 vs this team is a disgrace.

If we lose to the Heat, I really hope Danny reconsiders whether Brad is capable of getting this team any further than the ECF.   

Okay, lay it on me. Tell me it's the players not the coach. Sure, they could have done better, especially taking care of the ball. But the primary reason we lost was because Brad did a poor job of match ups.

I think in this post...aside from maybe just being upset at the loss...you may be guilty of annointing the Celtics as Champions before they have actually gotten their and done it...In other words you are believing all he superstar talk so you think they should just march on through.  Why is it a disgrace to lose two close games to a team that has only lost one playoff game?  A team that basically swept the Bucks except for an aberration...I mean the Bucks had the best record in the NBA by a lot.  I think you are vastly underratting the Heat.  I made a thread like a month into the season stating the Heat are as good as anyone in the East.  Well they are.  And the Heat may also be the best team in Basketball right now. 

However, in the same thread that I praised the Heat, I said the Celtics may be best equipped to handle them, and that Kemba could be the difference maker in close games.  Well, we'll need Kemba to come through here and there, though not necessarily volume from him.

But I think you have fallen into the trap of thinking that Miami is not very good, not a worthy opponent...I think that's the wrong way to think about the Heat and I hope the Celtics have seen that too in these first two games...

The Celtics and Heat are incredibly even.  Right now their saavy and steadiness is winning out over the C's somewhat wilder formula....but it's oh so close.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #117 on: September 18, 2020, 09:43:15 AM »

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I feel like I would have to post under a pseudonym on this topic  ::)

The notion that we are supposed to be doing better than this is absurd. Our 2 biggest matchup nightmares are 22 and 23. The veteran we have to lean on when the young guys show their age is a 30 year old 5'11 shoot first PG.

Teams just don't make it to the promised land when the bulk of their talent is this young. If you told me last July we would be in the ECF, I would of called you an idiot. These things take time.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #118 on: September 18, 2020, 10:09:33 AM »

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Brad works with what he has available. Blame should be on Danny who didn’t believe we are real contenders and didn’t trade for veterans and or leaders off the bench.
I also suspect that Brad’s preference is to work with younger players hence all the draft picks every year. 4 more drafted players coming in 2 months. If we bring 4 more rookies that will be telling what Danny and ownership think about our contending potential.

Not true. He had a center on his bench (R Williams) who matched up well vs the Heat center (Bam) who destroyed our other centers in 3rd and 4th quarters. 

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #119 on: September 18, 2020, 11:07:49 AM »

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The team is just too perimeter oriented. There is no game in the paint, especially defensively.

That key video on Twitter showing nobody blocking out Bam  (Theis?) indicates a paint problem.

Ainge has gotten two rim protectors, Williams and Fall, but they are not priority players on this team.

That tells me the GM has some conflict with the coach.

The team has obvious young talent, but lacks a complete game needed to win a title.