What was up with that reversed call on Theis?

[Roy H.]

It clearly looked like contact was made.  At worst, that should have been side out for the Celtics, if contact was made before the shot.  Instead, the refs miss the contact completely, and rule a jump ball.

That was a pivotal call, taking easy points off the board.  It’s one of the worst replay calls I have seen, and there have been a ton in the series.

Does anybody think the refs got it right?

[Donoghus]

I don't think there was enough there to overturn the call after it was initially called a foul.   I don't think it was clear enough by any means that the contact was clean. 

Just one of several calls last night that got me agitated.  I haven't been that peeved off about a sporting event in a long time.

[hpantazo]

Yeah I thought in order to overturn it, there needs to be clear evidence against the call that was made originally. From the replays they kept showing, there was no clear evidence that Theis was not fouled. He was hit and grabbed a few times on the play. Sure, none of the hits and grabs were strong, but that should have been beside the point, the original call was a foul and he was hit and he was grabbed.

The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.

[CelticsPoetry]

Maybe someone with more knowledge of the challenge rules can help me here. I've noticed a lot of times after successful challenges that there is a jump ball. Why not just give the possession to the other team if the call was wrong, like yesterday for example. If they admit it was wrong there should be no need for a jump ball. Maybe I remember wrong, but I believe there were, during the season, jump balls even after overturning defensive/offensive fouls. Just stupid.

[GratefulCs]

I think the worst part was the fact that the ball was going out of bounds off of Toronto. So it shouldn’t even be a jump ball.

[mobilija]

I think it depends on who they called the original foul on..which was unclear.

I thought he clearly got bumped and hit a couple times from the player to his left but not the player on his right. So , maybe the original foul  was on the right guy...? IDK

[GreenFaith1819]

I was somewhere between Robert Downey Jr and Ice Cube all night.

Just a work over by the refs - lead by Joey Crawford's Brother from Another Mother.



At least Brothers hasn't taken up dancing, yet....

[Roy H.]

The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.

Is he allowed to challenge a non-call?  The rules confuse me.

The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime.  I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.

[GratefulCs]

The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.

Is he allowed to challenge a non-call?  The rules confuse me.

The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime.  I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.

i think you can’t challenge in the last two minutes. Not sure about a non call though

[jambr380]

The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.

Is he allowed to challenge a non-call?  The rules confuse me.

The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime.  I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.

Yep, I agree - anything that is absolutely clear-cut should be challenged. Other close calls will likely be reviewed by the officials anyway as we saw 4 or 5 times last night (all in Toronto's favor). The Theis foul overturn is insane. Stevens has continuously used his challenges on calls like that throughout the season and gets rejected every time. That seemed like a hail mary by Nurse and it miraculously worked. There was clearly some contact even if it wasn't on the swipe and it would have been the Cs ball anyway (instead of a jump ball).

[libermaniac]

The fix was in.  No two ways about it. 

[keevsnick]

It clearly looked like contact was made.  At worst, that should have been side out for the Celtics, if contact was made before the shot.  Instead, the refs miss the contact completely, and rule a jump ball.

That was a pivotal call, taking easy points off the board.  It’s one of the worst replay calls I have seen, and there have been a ton in the series.

Does anybody think the refs got it right?

I agree, I don't think the foul was in the act of shooting, but clear contact was made when he was trying to gather the ball (can't remember if we're in the bonus). So at the very least it should have been c's ball out of bounds.

[Donoghus]

So what time are we getting the two minute report and how much is Nick Nurse getting fined?

[keevsnick]

The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.

Is he allowed to challenge a non-call?  The rules confuse me.

The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime.  I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.

No, you can't challenge a non call. A whistle essentially has to be blown to challenge something.

Off the top of my head weird stuff that happened in this game ref wise.

Kemba no call
Theis reversal
Tatum push off called offensive foul followed by same Siakam push of getting an and-1.
FVV landing spot flagrant, but Jaylen hit in air not a flagrant
One ref calling jump ball on OG rebound, one giving them timeout, timeout awarded 
Nurse standing on the out of bounds line on Tatum turnover, should have by rule been a tech.

Probably other stuff I'm missing. I am the last person to complain about officiating, I routinely argue with people in the game threads who try to say the ref's are stealing the game, but this was some serious awful officiating.

[footey]

The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.

Is he allowed to challenge a non-call?  The rules confuse me.

The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime.  I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.

I remember that moment, and felt the exact same way at the time.   Big momentum shift, especially given how well Raptors do to start every 3rd quarter.