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Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #630 on: August 17, 2020, 11:07:54 PM »

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For a guy who's team built their franchise around him, is young, and had all the time in the world to prepare for these playoffs, Embiid looks totally out of shape and unprepared. If I were a Sixers fan I'd be completely p---ed off with him right now. He's a front-running fraud. He's got a ton of talent, talks a lot, but doesn't put the work in to back any of it up.

Yeah I just don't get Embiid.  He could be dominating the league.  He needs to get his body into the best shape possible, or he is going to shorten his career.  Carrying too much weight I think will eventually not be good for him.  He is one of the most naturally talented players in the game, but he doesn't have the desire to improve that we have already seen in Brown and Tatum.

It is not that easy for big men to get in shape. Easy to rag on Embiid but that is a lot of size he is carrying. Size, not weight. So it takes a little more for him to get in shape than for JB and JT.

I don't know man...

Dwight Howard and Al Horford are just two examples of bigs guys who are in the league right now in their mid 30s who look to be in better physical condition then Embiid is in his mid 20s.  It's not great.

Porzingis too, even Jokic, AD. The list goes on and on.

Dunno about Jokic...not sure his conditioning is any better then Embiid's tbh.  He just works harder and isn't lazy lol

That's all Embiid has to do, lol! Nobody's asking him to be prime Dwight Howard for fitness level.

Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #631 on: August 17, 2020, 11:11:44 PM »

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For a guy who's team built their franchise around him, is young, and had all the time in the world to prepare for these playoffs, Embiid looks totally out of shape and unprepared. If I were a Sixers fan I'd be completely p---ed off with him right now. He's a front-running fraud. He's got a ton of talent, talks a lot, but doesn't put the work in to back any of it up.

Yeah I just don't get Embiid.  He could be dominating the league.  He needs to get his body into the best shape possible, or he is going to shorten his career.  Carrying too much weight I think will eventually not be good for him.  He is one of the most naturally talented players in the game, but he doesn't have the desire to improve that we have already seen in Brown and Tatum.

It is not that easy for big men to get in shape. Easy to rag on Embiid but that is a lot of size he is carrying. Size, not weight. So it takes a little more for him to get in shape than for JB and JT.

I don't know man...

Dwight Howard and Al Horford are just two examples of bigs guys who are in the league right now in their mid 30s who look to be in better physical condition then Embiid is in his mid 20s.  It's not great.

Porzingis too, even Jokic, AD. The list goes on and on.

Dunno about Jokic...not sure his conditioning is any better then Embiid's tbh.  He just works harder and isn't lazy lol

That's all Embiid has to do, lol! Nobody's asking him to be prime Dwight Howard for fitness level.

But imagine an Embiid that did dedicate that much effort to his body / conditioning....I mean it would be scary.  Maybe he still wouldn't have the killer-instinct-MVP-level-take-the-game-over-ability, but an Embiid that could play 40 min with much better conditioning would be pretty difficult to deal with.


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« Reply #632 on: August 17, 2020, 11:13:03 PM »

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I honestly dont think Embiid conditioning is the min problem, i mean it could be better but the bigger problem is Embiid went long stretches without touching the ball. In this game part of the issue was that nobody on the 76ers can make a simple entry pass. Then when they did the Celtics did an excellent job helping off shooters like Thybulle.

So deny the ball, double when you get the ball, limit fouling, and you can make a post players life hard especially when they dont have elite shooters around them.

Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #633 on: August 17, 2020, 11:14:27 PM »

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For a guy who's team built their franchise around him, is young, and had all the time in the world to prepare for these playoffs, Embiid looks totally out of shape and unprepared. If I were a Sixers fan I'd be completely p---ed off with him right now. He's a front-running fraud. He's got a ton of talent, talks a lot, but doesn't put the work in to back any of it up.

Yeah I just don't get Embiid.  He could be dominating the league.  He needs to get his body into the best shape possible, or he is going to shorten his career.  Carrying too much weight I think will eventually not be good for him.  He is one of the most naturally talented players in the game, but he doesn't have the desire to improve that we have already seen in Brown and Tatum.

It is not that easy for big men to get in shape. Easy to rag on Embiid but that is a lot of size he is carrying. Size, not weight. So it takes a little more for him to get in shape than for JB and JT.

I don't know man...

Dwight Howard and Al Horford are just two examples of bigs guys who are in the league right now in their mid 30s who look to be in better physical condition then Embiid is in his mid 20s.  It's not great.

Porzingis too, even Jokic, AD. The list goes on and on.

Dunno about Jokic...not sure his conditioning is any better then Embiid's tbh.  He just works harder and isn't lazy lol

That's all Embiid has to do, lol! Nobody's asking him to be prime Dwight Howard for fitness level.

But imagine an Embiid that did dedicate that much effort to his body / conditioning....I mean it would be scary.  Maybe he still wouldn't have the killer-instinct-MVP-level-take-the-game-over-ability, but an Embiid that could play 40 min with much better conditioning would be pretty difficult to deal with.

He'd be a perennial MVP candidate and his career would last a lot longer.

Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #634 on: August 18, 2020, 03:17:08 AM »

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For a guy who's team built their franchise around him, is young, and had all the time in the world to prepare for these playoffs, Embiid looks totally out of shape and unprepared. If I were a Sixers fan I'd be completely p---ed off with him right now. He's a front-running fraud. He's got a ton of talent, talks a lot, but doesn't put the work in to back any of it up.

Yeah I just don't get Embiid.  He could be dominating the league.  He needs to get his body into the best shape possible, or he is going to shorten his career.  Carrying too much weight I think will eventually not be good for him.  He is one of the most naturally talented players in the game, but he doesn't have the desire to improve that we have already seen in Brown and Tatum.

It is not that easy for big men to get in shape. Easy to rag on Embiid but that is a lot of size he is carrying. Size, not weight. So it takes a little more for him to get in shape than for JB and JT.

I don't know man...

Dwight Howard and Al Horford are just two examples of bigs guys who are in the league right now in their mid 30s who look to be in better physical condition then Embiid is in his mid 20s.  It's not great.

Porzingis too, even Jokic, AD. The list goes on and on.

Dunno about Jokic...not sure his conditioning is any better then Embiid's tbh.  He just works harder and isn't lazy lol

That's all Embiid has to do, lol! Nobody's asking him to be prime Dwight Howard for fitness level.

But imagine an Embiid that did dedicate that much effort to his body / conditioning....I mean it would be scary.  Maybe he still wouldn't have the killer-instinct-MVP-level-take-the-game-over-ability, but an Embiid that could play 40 min with much better conditioning would be pretty difficult to deal with.
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Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #635 on: August 18, 2020, 03:35:21 AM »

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Some notes:

- brown was most impressive, he keeps elevating his game with every passing moment,
- tatum was in killa mode, but we failed to include him in our offense in the second half,
- smart is all nba 1st team,
- embiid was living in the paint on defense, can't believe not a single time was he called for it,
- what a response from the young Grant, as a rookie to get your number called late in the game, great job young fella,
- hayward and kemba looked off and in non rythm, hope gordon's ankle is fine, he did manage to walk it off right away,
- we need to be more diverse on our offense, for 3 quarters of the game it was pretty much tatum and brown making individual plays, but a lot of it has to do with embiid just standing in the paint and our guys missing wide open shots,
- props to the bench guys, they did all right,
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Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #636 on: August 18, 2020, 03:43:03 AM »

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Kanter will score 15 points in game 2.  With 9 rebounds...

Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #637 on: August 18, 2020, 05:21:31 AM »

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It was not pretty, nor a great game, and it even wasn't an intensive kind playoff game... But we did the job. Good to see that Tatum and Brown are a lock to give us at least  50 points on any night...

Even with an off night at 3, we managed to beat them. Even with Smart doing bad choices, putrid offense, even with Kemba out of rythm, even with quiet bad defense against Embid, even with a transparent Kanter we managed to beat them... Without Simmons their creativity, ballhandling and even collectiv play is really weak. Even if GH is hurt for the serie I am very optimistic. It will be 4-1 on my opinion. But we must have a good Gordon next round against the raptors, it is for me a need to advance to the CF...
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Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #638 on: August 18, 2020, 05:56:57 AM »

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Some notes:

- brown was most impressive, he keeps elevating his game with every passing moment,
- tatum was in killa mode, but we failed to include him in our offense in the second half,
- smart is all nba 1st team,
- embiid was living in the paint on defense, can't believe not a single time was he called for it,
- what a response from the young Grant, as a rookie to get your number called late in the game, great job young fella,
- hayward and kemba looked off and in non rythm, hope gordon's ankle is fine, he did manage to walk it off right away,
- we need to be more diverse on our offense, for 3 quarters of the game it was pretty much tatum and brown making individual plays, but a lot of it has to do with embiid just standing in the paint and our guys missing wide open shots,
- props to the bench guys, they did all right,
I just watched the replay and I was pretty surprised by Brown magically learning how to pass, this is a Kawhi-esque jump (relative to where he was at the start of this season). He made some decent passes and exhibited some promising decision-making as a ballhandler - I won't be surprised if he's the one powering our offence in this playoff run.
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Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #639 on: August 18, 2020, 08:43:06 AM »

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Some notes:

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- smart is all nba 1st team,
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Let me hear props for the outstanding defense, not only Smart, the whole team.  The intensity was excellent. 12 steals!  Playoff basketball.

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« Reply #640 on: August 18, 2020, 08:55:02 AM »

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Some notes:

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- smart is all nba 1st team,
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Let me hear props for the outstanding defense, not only Smart, the whole team.  The intensity was excellent. 12 steals!  Playoff basketball.
We had 22 delfections, they only 4 (3 by Matisse).
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« Reply #641 on: August 18, 2020, 09:16:59 AM »

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Some notes:

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- smart is all nba 1st team,
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Let me hear props for the outstanding defense, not only Smart, the whole team.  The intensity was excellent. 12 steals!  Playoff basketball.
They played the whole game without a playmaker though. Milton is primarily a SG. Their only legit PG is Neto, but he never entered the game.

Elton Brand is hands down the worst GM in the NBA. How on earth is it possible that their only legit PG is Raul Neto? Imo, the Sixers desperately need a starting-caliber legit PG. This is a massive problem on their part. It seems to me that their players are just taking turns on offense. They should be constantly playing pick n roll with Embiid, yet they have nobody who can run the pick n roll! This is hilarious!

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« Reply #642 on: August 18, 2020, 09:19:12 AM »

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Some notes:

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- smart is all nba 1st team,
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Let me hear props for the outstanding defense, not only Smart, the whole team.  The intensity was excellent. 12 steals!  Playoff basketball.
They played the whole game without a playmaker though. Milton is primarily a SG. Their only legit PG is Neto, but he never entered the game.

Elton Brant is hands down the worst GM in the NBA. How on earth is it possible that their only legit PG is Raul Neto? Imo, the Sixers desperately need a starting-caliber legit PG. This is a massive problem on their part. It seems to me that their players are just taking turns on offense. They should be constantly playing pick n roll with Embiid, yet they have nobody who can run the pick n roll! This is hilarious!
I thought that Burks was actually their best in ball creator, de facto PG.
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Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #643 on: August 18, 2020, 09:30:39 AM »

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Some notes:

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- smart is all nba 1st team,
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Let me hear props for the outstanding defense, not only Smart, the whole team.  The intensity was excellent. 12 steals!  Playoff basketball.
They played the whole game without a playmaker though. Milton is primarily a SG. Their only legit PG is Neto, but he never entered the game.

Elton Brant is hands down the worst GM in the NBA. How on earth is it possible that their only legit PG is Raul Neto? Imo, the Sixers desperately need a starting-caliber legit PG. This is a massive problem on their part. It seems to me that their players are just taking turns on offense. They should be constantly playing pick n roll with Embiid, yet they have nobody who can run the pick n roll! This is hilarious!
I thought that Burks was actually their best in ball creator, de facto PG.
Meh, I guess their best de facto PG is either Tobias or Horford. Tobias had 8 assists and only 1 t/o last night. He's not a legit playmaker though. This ain't sustainable on their part.

Re: 76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 8/17/20
« Reply #644 on: August 18, 2020, 10:57:52 AM »

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Some notes:

- brown was most impressive, he keeps elevating his game with every passing moment,
- tatum was in killa mode, but we failed to include him in our offense in the second half,
- smart is all nba 1st team,
- embiid was living in the paint on defense, can't believe not a single time was he called for it,
- what a response from the young Grant, as a rookie to get your number called late in the game, great job young fella,
- hayward and kemba looked off and in non rythm, hope gordon's ankle is fine, he did manage to walk it off right away,
- we need to be more diverse on our offense, for 3 quarters of the game it was pretty much tatum and brown making individual plays, but a lot of it has to do with embiid just standing in the paint and our guys missing wide open shots,
- props to the bench guys, they did all right,

I must have missed that part. Smart was active defensively, put missed a number of open 3's at the end of the game. Timelord, played alright, but made a number of really dumb fouls. Wannamaker is what he is. Kantor looked awful his first time out there.
The beach is a problem. A total of 8 points, just doesn't cut it.
See Burks play for the Sixers reminds me how disappointed I was the Celtics didn't sign anyone who can score the ball off the bench. I continue to believe they have the worst bench in the league.