2020 Historic Draft: How’s My Team Look: Conference Finals winners announced!!

[Somebody]

Anyways many thanks to everyone who participated in the draft (either as a GM, commissioner or onlooker) - it was a really fun process and we didn't have a meltdown like last time . I hope we'll meet again in the next historical draft (80s/90s I think)!

[GreenFaith1819]

I admit I don't know enough about Mourning's game. From what I've read, I wouldn't take him above Embiid-Jokic. I may well be wrong.

If you happen to see any Heat games from 1999 or 2000, check them out. Zoe was a monster on both ends. He was one of the most dominant defensive players of the era, but he could also score in a multitude of ways.  In an era of good centers, Alonzo averaged 20 / 10 with nearly four blocks per game.

I don’t think that either Embiid or Jokic are in the conversation.  They are both extremely talented, but neither has shown the ability to dominate on both ends like Mourning.

Check out this comparison between Mourning and Embiid:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Joel+Embiid&player_id1_select=Joel+Embiid&y1=2020&player_id1=embiijo01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Alonzo+Mourning&player_id2_select=Alonzo+Mourning&y2=2000&player_id2=mournal01&idx=players

The year I chose for Embiid was 18-19 I believe.

And I believe Mourning had a better TEAM around him that Embiid does now...

Don't believe Zo had "A Unicorn of a PG that was reluctant to shoot".....

Zo appeared to be a black hole on offense as well....not sure how I could reconcile the assist numbers (maybe poster 'Somebody" could do this?)

It is all water under the bridge now, though...votes have been cast...favorites have been chosen...trades have been made already.

I enjoyed myself.

Just looking forward to the next one - and with hopefully a LARGER pool of players to chose from.

Alonzo Mourning was a black hole - he was like a smaller Ewing during his peak (strong scoring + elite defensive peak, but weak passing and low offensive portability).

Thanks Somebody.

If Embiid was doubled in "THIS" historical draft I wanted to make sure he could pass out of it...he seemed to be decent at this.

I found a surprising "Anti-Embiid" bend during the Draft...I believed him to be among the top 3-4 Centers in this game for the era chosen....great size (280)...hit his FTs...great post game...good jumper....assist numbers seemed credible enough for him to pass out of double teams...seemed smart when engaged...he didn't always make the best decisions but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt here more than not.

...and I believed that in "this" format he wouldn't have an issue being engaged.

[nickagneta]

Remember, getting into the playoffs was based on conference standings and not league ranking.

Milwaukee wins EC#2 tiebreaker over Philadelphia by virtue of having 5 6th place votes to Philly's 4 6th place votes. Each had 5 1st place votes.

Lakers win WC#3 tiebreaker over Dallas by virtue of having 3 1st place votes to Dallas's 2 first place votes.

Dallas wins League Ranking #6 over Denver by virtue of having a 1st place vote. Denver did not have a first place vote.

[Somebody]

I admit I don't know enough about Mourning's game. From what I've read, I wouldn't take him above Embiid-Jokic. I may well be wrong.

If you happen to see any Heat games from 1999 or 2000, check them out. Zoe was a monster on both ends. He was one of the most dominant defensive players of the era, but he could also score in a multitude of ways.  In an era of good centers, Alonzo averaged 20 / 10 with nearly four blocks per game.

I don’t think that either Embiid or Jokic are in the conversation.  They are both extremely talented, but neither has shown the ability to dominate on both ends like Mourning.

Check out this comparison between Mourning and Embiid:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Joel+Embiid&player_id1_select=Joel+Embiid&y1=2020&player_id1=embiijo01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Alonzo+Mourning&player_id2_select=Alonzo+Mourning&y2=2000&player_id2=mournal01&idx=players

The year I chose for Embiid was 18-19 I believe.

And I believe Mourning had a better TEAM around him that Embiid does now...

Don't believe Zo had "A Unicorn of a PG that was reluctant to shoot".....

Zo appeared to be a black hole on offense as well....not sure how I could reconcile the assist numbers (maybe poster 'Somebody" could do this?)

It is all water under the bridge now, though...votes have been cast...favorites have been chosen...trades have been made already.

I enjoyed myself.

Just looking forward to the next one - and with hopefully a LARGER pool of players to chose from.

Alonzo Mourning was a black hole - he was like a smaller Ewing during his peak (strong scoring + elite defensive peak, but weak passing and low offensive portability).

Thanks Somebody.

If Embiid was doubled in "THIS" historical draft I wanted to make sure he could pass out of it...he seemed to be decent at this.

I found a surprising "Anti-Embiid" bend during the Draft...I believed him to be among the top 3-4 Centers in this game for the era chosen....great size (280)...hit his FTs...great post game...good jumper....assist numbers seemed credible enough for him to pass out of double teams...seemed smart when engaged...he didn't always make the best decisions but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt here more than not.

...and I believed that in "this" format he wouldn't have an issue being engaged.

He would be alright, but you really don't want to run Embiid post-ups when you have Dirk lol. I think my problem with Embiid is that he's reasonably well rounded in most aspects, but has holes in his game that really hurt him as a whole (eg. problematic decision-making and vision, questionable PnR defence, sketchy outside shooting). I rate him as a fringe MVP guy, but it's difficult to build a great team with him in this format.

[Jvalin]

At least the Celtics are the #1 seed! Let's go C's! Banner #18 here we come!

Honest question: How is it possible that the Mavs are the 2nd best Western Conference team in the overall standings, but the 4th best team in the Western standings?

I mean, shouldn't those 2 be identical?

[Somebody]

At least the Celtics are the #1 seed! Let's go C's! Banner #18 here we come!

Honest question: How is it possible that the Mavs are the 2nd best Western Conference team in the overall standings, but the 4th best team in the Western standings?

I mean, shouldn't those 2 be identical?

I think it was because of my list - I ranked all of the bottom West teams in my list very low in my overall standings. Probably hurt some teams like Denver and Los Angeles more than you in the overall standings.

[theswitch]

Woah, my rankings were actually pretty close. Congrats to all of the GMs! Really excited for Bucks D v. Boston O, and for Duncan v. Shaq. That's going to be an all-time matchup.

Payton v. Kidd
Rip v. Reggie
Carmelo v. Peja
Horford v. Draymond
Duncan v. Shaq

Rip and Reggie is a classic. Payton and Kidd is super fun. Peja and Carmelo is going to be a scoring extravaganza. Horford and Draymond will be less relevant because they are fairly similar. I wonder if Utah will play big and put Draymond or PJ Tucker on Carmelo. And then of course Duncan and Shaq. Strength on strength - very similar roster composition. You have the Shaq advantage for Utah but I'm not sure they have anyone like Kyrie on the bench - Denver's bench mob is eccentric but fantastic.

And then the East...

Conley / Rose v. Nash
Manu v. Houston
Giannis v. Durant
Malone v. Pau
Zo v. Marc

Lots of fun and exciting matchups. More strength (and length!) against strength and length. Giannis v. Durant, wow. Malone v. Pau, wow. Conley is a nice defensive matchup on Nash. Two strong benches.

Congrats to everyone who participated. This was great.

[Jvalin]

At least the Celtics are the #1 seed! Let's go C's! Banner #18 here we come!

Honest question: How is it possible that the Mavs are the 2nd best Western Conference team in the overall standings, but the 4th best team in the Western standings?

I mean, shouldn't those 2 be identical?

I think it was because of my list - I ranked all of the bottom West teams in my list very low in my overall standings. Probably hurt some teams like Denver and Los Angeles more than you in the overall standings.

OK, but you still ranked them in the same order as in the overall standings. Shouldn't the 2 lists always give identical results? What am I understanding wrong?

[nickagneta]

THE VOTES

freshinthehouse
OVERALL  1-13

Dallas(WC1)
Utah (WC2)
Denver (WC3)
Boston (EC1)
Brooklyn(EC2)
Philadelphia (EC3)
LA Lakers (WC4)
Miami (EC4)
OKC (WC5)
LA Clippers (WC6)
Milwaukee (EC5)
Toronto (EC6)
Indiana  (EC7)

EC:
1-Boston
2-Brooklyn
3-Philadelphia
4-Miami
5-Milwaukee
6-Toronto
7-Indiana

WC:
1-Dallas
2-Utah
3-Denver
4-LA Lakers
5-OKC
6-Clippers

Who
1 Milwaukee Bucks
2 Toronto Raptors
3 Philadelphia 76ers
4 Los Angeles Lakers
5 Dallas Mavericks
6 Denver Nuggets
7 Utah Jazz
8 Houston Rockets
9 Miami Heat
10 Los Angeles Clippers
11 Brooklyn Nets
12 Indiana Pacers
13 Oklahoma City Thunder

East

1 Milwaukee Bucks
2 Toronto Raptors
3 Philadelphia 76ers
4 Miami Heat
5 Brooklyn Nets
6 Indiana Pacers

West

1 Los Angeles Lakers
2 Dallas Mavericks
3 Denver Nuggets
4 Utah Jazz
5 Houston Rockets
6 Los Angeles Clippers
7 Oklahoma City Thunder

Donoghus
League

1. BOS
2. DAL
3. MIL
4. PHI
5. TOR
6. DEN
7. UT
8. LAL
9.  LAC
10. MIA
11. IND
12. OKC
13. HOU

East
1. BOS
2. MIL
3. PHI
4. TOR
5. MIA
6. IND

West
1. DAL
2. DEN
3. UT
4. LAL
5. LAC
6. OKC
7. HOU

Grenfaith1819
LEAGUE:

1. PHI EC1
2. DEN WC1
3. MIL EC2
4. MIA EC3
5. LAC WC2
6. DAL WC3
7. OKC WC4
8. BKN EC5
9. UTAH WC5
10. BOS EC5
11. TOR EC6
12. HOU WC6
13. LAL WC7

EAST -

1. PHI EC1
2. MIL EC2
3. MIA EC3
4. BKN EC4
5. BOS EC5
6. TOR EC6

WEST -

1. DEN WC1
2. LAC WC2
3. DAL WC3
4. OKC WC4
5. UTAH WC5
6. HOU WC6
7. LAL WC7

wdleehi
League

1. Utah
2. Denver
3. Boston
4. Lackers
5. Toronto
6. Miami
7. Clippers
8. Indiana
9. MILWAUKEE
10.Dallas
11. Brooklyn
12. OC
13. Houston

East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Miami
4. Indiana
5. MILWAUKEE
6. Brooklyn

West
1. Utah
2. Denver
3. Lackers
4. Clippers
5. Dallas
6. OC
7. Houston

RPGenerate
League

1. Philadelphia
2. Boston
3. Los Angeles Clippers
4. Milwaukee
5. Utah
6. Dallas
7. Toronto
8. Los Angeles Lakers
9. Indiana
10. Brooklyn
11. Houston
12. Miami
13. OKC

East
1. Philadelphia
2. Boston
3. Milwaukee
4. Toronto
5. Indiana
6. Brooklyn
7. Miami

West
1. Los Angeles Clippers
2. Utah
3. Dallas
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. Houston
6. OKC

action781
League
Boston
LA Lakers
Milwaukee
Miami
LA Clippers
Philadelphia
Indiana
Dallas
Denver
Brooklyn
Houston
Toronto
OKC

East
Boston
Milwaukee
Miami
Philadelphia
Indiana
Brooklyn
Toronto

West
LA Lakers
LA Clippers
Dallas Mavericks
Denver Nuggets
Houston Rockets
OKC Thunder

theswitch
League

1. EC1 – Milwaukee Bucks
2. EC2 – Boston Celtics
3. WC1 – Utah Jazz
4. WC2 – Denver Nuggets
5. EC3 – Philadelphia 76ers
6. EC4 – Toronto Raptors
7. WC4 – Los Angeles Lakers
8. WC3 – Dallas Mavericks
9. WC5 – Los Angeles Clippers
10. EC5 – Indiana Pacers
11. EC6 – Brooklyn Nets
12. WC6 – Oklahoma City Thunder
13. EC7 – Miami Heat
14. WC7 – Houston Rockets

East
1. Milwaukee Bucks
2. Boston Celtics
3. Philadelphia 76ers
4. Toronto Raptors
5. Indiana Pacers
6. Brooklyn Nets
7. Miami Heat

West
1. Utah Jazz
2. Denver Nuggets
3. Los Angeles Lakers
4. Dallas Mavericks
5. Los Angeles Clippers
6. Oklahoma City Thunder
7. Houston Rockets

Jvalin
League

1. Utah
2. Philly
3. Toronto
4. Boston
5. Milwaukee
6. Denver
7. Indy
8. Miami
9. LA Lakers
10. OKC
11. Houston
12. LA Clips
13. Brooklyn

East
1. Philly
2. Toronto
3. Boston
4. Milwaukee
5. Indy
6. Miami
7. Brooklyn

West
1. Utah
2. Denver
3. LA Lakers
4. OKC
5. Houston
6. LA Clips

KGs Knee
Overall
  1. Boston
  2. Philadelphia
  3. Utah
  4. Brooklyn
  5. Milwaukee
  6. Denver
  7. Toronto
  8. Oklahoma City
  9. LA Lakers
10. LA Clippers
11. Dallas
12. Miami
13. Houston
14. Indiana

EAST
 1. Boston
 2. Philadelphia
 3. Brooklyn
 4. Milwaukee
 5. Toronto
 6. Miami
 7. Indiana

WEST
 1. Utah
 2. Denver
 3. Oklahoma City
 4. LA Lakers
 5. LA Clippers
 6. Dallas
 7. Houston

bdm860
League
1   Boston
2   Utah
3   Dallas
4   Lakers
5   Philadelphia
6   Milwaukee
7   Denver
8   Indiana
9   Toronto
10   Clippers
11   Brooklyn
12   Houston
13   Miami
14   OKC
   
East
1   Boston
2   Philadelphia
3   Milwaukee
4   Indiana
5   Toronto
6   Brooklyn
7   Miami
   
West
1   Utah
2   Dallas
3   Lakers
4   Denver
5   Clippers
6   Houston
7   OKC

nickagneta
League
1   Utah
2   Philadelphia
3   Boston
4   Toronto
5   Milwaukee
6   Lakers
7   Clippers
8   Brooklyn
9   Dallas
10   Indiana
11   Denver
12   Houston
13   Miami
14   OKC
   
East
1   Philadelphia
2   Boston
3   Toronto
4   Milwaukee
5   Indiana
6   Brooklyn
7   Miami
   
West
1   Utah
2   Lakers
3   Clippers
4   Dallas
5   Denver
6   Houston
7   OKC

Celtic Fan Forever
League:
1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Utah Jazz
4. Boston Celtics
5. Toronto Raptors
6. Denver Nuggets
7. Los Angeles Clippers
8. Dallas Mavericks
9. Oklahoma City Thunder
10. Brooklyn Nets
11. Indiana Pacers
12. Miami Heat
13. Houston Rockets



East:

1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Boston Celtics
4. Toronto Raptors
5. Brooklyn Nets
6. Indiana Pacers
7. Miami Heat



West:

1. Utah Jazz
2. Denver Nuggets
3. Los Angeles Clippers
4. Dallas Mavericks
5. Oklahoma City Thunder
6. Houston Rockets

Yoki_IsTheName
OVERALL.

1. Milwaukee
2. Boston
3. Utah
4. Brooklyn
5. Toronto
6. Dallas
7. Philadelphia
8. LA Lakers
9. Houston
10. Indiana
11. LA Clippers
12. Denver
13. Miami

EASTERN CONFERENCE.

1. Milwaukee
2. Boston
3. Brooklyn
4. Toronto
5. Philadelphia
6. Indiana
7. Miami

WESTERN CONFERENCE.

1. Utah
2. Dallas
3. LA Lakers
4. Houston
5. LA Clippers
6. Denver

Somebody
League
1. Boston Celtics
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Miami Heat
4. Los Angeles Clippers
5. Brooklyn Nets
6. Oklahoma City Thunder
7. Indiana Pacers
8. Dallas Mavericks
9. Utah Jazz
10. Philadelphia 76ers
11. Denver Nuggets
12. Los Angeles Lakers
13. Houston Rockets

East
1. Boston Celtics
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Miami Heat
4. Brooklyn Nets
5. Indiana Pacers
6. Philadelphia 76ers

West
1. Los Angeles Clippers
2. Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Dallas Mavericks
4. Utah Jazz
5. Denver Nuggets
6. Los Angeles Lakers
7. Houston Rockets

RodyTur10
League   
1.   Milwaukee Bucks (Roy H.)
2.   Philadelphia 76ers (wdleehi)
3.   Los Angeles Lakers (CelticFanForever)
4.   Indiana Pacers (GreenFaith1819)
5.   Los Angeles Clippers (gouki88)
6.   Toronto Raptors (Somebody)
7.   Oklahoma City Thunder (Yoki_IsTheName)
8.   Dallas Mavericks (Jvalin)
9.   Utah Jazz (action781)
10.   Brooklyn Nets (Donoghus)
11.   Boston Celtics (Who)
12.   Denver Nuggets (RPGenerate)
13.   Houston Rockets (freshinthehouse)
   
East   
1.   Milwaukee Bucks (Roy H.)
2.   Philadelphia 76ers (wdleehi)
3.   Indiana Pacers (GreenFaith1819)
4.   Toronto Raptors (Somebody)
5.   Brooklyn Nets (Donoghus)
6.   Boston Celtics (Who)
   
West
1.   Los Angeles Lakers (CelticFanForever)
2.   Los Angeles Clippers (gouki88)
3.   Oklahoma City Thunder (Yoki_IsTheName)
4.   Dallas Mavericks (Jvalin)
5.   Utah Jazz (action781)
6.   Denver Nuggets (RPGenerate)
7.   Houston Rockets (freshinthehouse)

gouki88
League:
 
1) Milwaukee

2) Boston

3) Utah

4) Philadelphia

5) Brooklyn

6) Denver

7) Dallas

LA Lakers

9) Toronto

10) Indiana

11) Miami

12) OKC Thunder

13) Houston

West:

1) Utah

2) Denver

3) Dallas

4) LA Lakers

5) OKC Thunder

6) Houston

East:

1) Milwaukee

2) Boston

3) Philadelphia

4) Brooklyn

5) Toronto

6) Indiana

7) Miami

Roy H.
Historic League
1. Utah
2. Boston
3. Philly
4. Brooklyn
5. Clippers
6. Indiana
7. Toronto
8. Lakers
9. Denver
10. Miami
11. Houston
12. Dallas
13. OKC

Eastern Conference
1. Boston
2. Philly
3. Brooklyn
4. Indiana
5. Toronto
6. Miami

Western Conference
1. Utah
2. Clippers
3. Lakers
4. Denver
5. Houston
6. Dallas
7. OKC

[theswitch]

Brooklyn jumps out as super volatile. I think voters really didn't know what to do with that team - probably the most unique team in the league, incredibly talented but just so much to chew on. The caliber of rosters across the board made rating that team really tough, and I bet it has the highest standard deviation of all the votes.

Indiana was another wrestling match for me. I wanted to like it quite a bit and did throughout the draft until it was time to rank. Tony Parker and Dirk. Tony Parker and Joel Embiid. Tyson Chandler and Dirk. Oladipo and Hayward. Iguodala. A really nicely built team for where it shook out. I think having both Dirk and Embiid confused folks with their similar styles of play and requirement for the ball. I bet it'd actually work, but it's hard to visualize in this league. I wonder if there could've been a stronger argument for matchup advantages, or if the team would've been better served picking a better version of Chandler (or just Chandler himself) for the starting lineup alongside Dirk to simplify it -- it really should've been a team built on a Parker/Dirk pick and roll attack where Dirk is unguardable at the 4 except for maybe Anthony Davis or Giannis. I also wonder if people have forgotten how good Hayward was a couple years ago because of his performance in Boston - that might have clouded the votes. Lots of great pieces on this team, but for some reason it just didn't quite resonate. Either Embiid himself unraveled it or the competition in the East was simply too strong.

[Somebody]

Brooklyn jumps out as super volatile. I think voters really didn't know what to do with that team - probably the most unique team in the league, incredibly talented but just so much to chew on. The caliber of rosters across the board made rating that team really tough, and I bet it has the highest standard deviation of all the votes.

Indiana was another wrestling match for me. I wanted to like it quite a bit and did throughout the draft until it was time to rank. Tony Parker and Dirk. Tony Parker and Joel Embiid. Tyson Chandler and Dirk. Oladipo and Hayward. Iguodala. A really nicely built team for where it shook out. I think having both Dirk and Embiid confused folks with their similar styles of play and requirement for the ball. I bet it'd actually work, but it's hard to visualize in this league. I wonder if there could've been a stronger argument for matchup advantages, or if the team would've been better served picking a better version of Chandler (or just Chandler himself) for the starting lineup alongside Dirk to simplify it -- it really should've been a team built on a Parker/Dirk pick and roll attack where Dirk is unguardable at the 4 except for maybe Anthony Davis or Giannis. I also wonder if people have forgotten how good Hayward was a couple years ago because of his performance in Boston - that might have clouded the votes. Lots of great pieces on this team, but for some reason it just didn't quite resonate. Either Embiid himself unraveled it or the competition in the East was simply too strong.

I thought my team was the roller coaster of this draft - I had Who ranking me second and other guys ranking me in the bottom three. And as for Indiana it was due to the East being really strong and Embiid/Hayward being weird-ish fits on the team imo (I think you really need to surround Dirk with defensive pieces).

[nickagneta]

At least the Celtics are the #1 seed! Let's go C's! Banner #18 here we come!

Honest question: How is it possible that the Mavs are the 2nd best Western Conference team in the overall standings, but the 4th best team in the Western standings?

I mean, shouldn't those 2 be identical?

The league rankings can get wonky due to higher and lower extremes. I believe Dallas had one league 1st place vote that pushed them higher in the league rankings but in the conference rankings that got smoothed down some.

[Roy H.]

I admit I don't know enough about Mourning's game. From what I've read, I wouldn't take him above Embiid-Jokic. I may well be wrong.

If you happen to see any Heat games from 1999 or 2000, check them out. Zoe was a monster on both ends. He was one of the most dominant defensive players of the era, but he could also score in a multitude of ways.  In an era of good centers, Alonzo averaged 20 / 10 with nearly four blocks per game.

I don’t think that either Embiid or Jokic are in the conversation.  They are both extremely talented, but neither has shown the ability to dominate on both ends like Mourning.

Check out this comparison between Mourning and Embiid:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Joel+Embiid&player_id1_select=Joel+Embiid&y1=2020&player_id1=embiijo01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Alonzo+Mourning&player_id2_select=Alonzo+Mourning&y2=2000&player_id2=mournal01&idx=players

The year I chose for Embiid was 18-19 I believe.

And I believe Mourning had a better TEAM around him that Embiid does now...

Don't believe Zo had "A Unicorn of a PG that was reluctant to shoot".....

Zo appeared to be a black hole on offense as well....not sure how I could reconcile the assist numbers (maybe poster 'Somebody" could do this?)

It is all water under the bridge now, though...votes have been cast...favorites have been chosen...trades have been made already.

I enjoyed myself.

Just looking forward to the next one - and with hopefully a LARGER pool of players to chose from.

Alonzo Mourning was a black hole - he was like a smaller Ewing during his peak (strong scoring + elite defensive peak, but weak passing and low offensive portability).

Real question:  how many games did you watch him play?   Given your appreciation for Kevin Garnett and David Robinson, I suspect she would love watching the man play basketball.  I ask because you have previously disclosed your age, and sometimes I feel that your takes do you not line up with those of people who watched the games at the time.

Alonzo wasn’t a modern-era passer, but he wasn’t a black hole, either.  Over the two-year stretch from 1998-2000, he had two of the top 12 seasons for centers in assists per game.

To that end, I don’t quite understand the concept of offensive portability. Where would 2000 David Robinson rank by that metric? What about Shaquille O’Neal? I suppose it’s a chicken versus egg thing, but I think if we had giant, efficient, offensively dominant bigs in the league today, coaches would use them.

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Wow my team was all over the place in these votes. From first to middle to absolute last.

I knew I was facing an uphill battle building a team around Kobe in a board full of Celtics fans (I really couldn't not take him at 9 though)- and while I'm disappointed to miss the playoffs this was a ton of fun!

Really hope we get to do another historical draft soon while this quarantine continues. Good luck to everyone in the playoffs, these should be some fun matchups.

[Jvalin]

At least the Celtics are the #1 seed! Let's go C's! Banner #18 here we come!

Honest question: How is it possible that the Mavs are the 2nd best Western Conference team in the overall standings, but the 4th best team in the Western standings?

I mean, shouldn't those 2 be identical?

The league rankings can get wonky due to higher and lower extremes. I believe Dallas had one league 1st place vote that pushed them higher in the league rankings but in the conference rankings that got smoothed down some.

Fair enough. I haven't read all the rules to be honest. My bad.

------------------------------------------------

Btw, I believe I owe an apology to gouki88.

I was under the impression that all teams automatically qualify for the playoffs and we just vote for which teams make it to the conference finals. I buried the Clips in my ballot based on the following dialogue I had with gouki prior to the draft:

How about if a player* had a phenomenal regular season, but was a ghost of his former self during the post season due to injury? Does he still take full credit for his phenomenal regular season?

What do you guys think about this?

*(I was referring to Grant Hill)

It really all comes down to what individuals find important. Given that the winner of this game is determined by voting, it’s completely subjective.

I personally would have to take a guy getting injured in the playoffs into account, as in my little fantasy land these teams will end up playing a playoff series of sorts, and whoever I think would be the champion is the winner.

Grant Hill had a phenomenal regular season in 1999-2000, but he was a ghost of himself in the playoffs due to the infamous ankle injury. Had I known that we are voting for the regular season, I would have seen things from a different perspective. I asked Nick if I could change my vote (regarding only the Clips), but it was against the rules. Again, my bad. Sorry gouki.