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Re: 2020 Historical Draft Thread: NOW OPEN!!!
« Reply #285 on: March 23, 2020, 01:50:24 PM »

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With the 14th pick in the 1st round, the Brooklyn Nets select Tracy McGrady


I had such a hard time placing T-Mac on my board, so I had him waaaay lower then he probably should have been. I think this is a good pick for the last one of the round.

Yeah, he's a bit of a binky.

Saw a ton of him.   Drafted when I was high school and really hit his prime when I was in college.    One of those eye test guys.   For where I was drafting, figured why not.
Such a fun player to watch. Thinking of going Orlando T-Mac or Houston T-Mac?
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« Reply #286 on: March 23, 2020, 01:53:32 PM »

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With the 14th pick in the 1st round, the Brooklyn Nets select Tracy McGrady


I had such a hard time placing T-Mac on my board, so I had him waaaay lower then he probably should have been. I think this is a good pick for the last one of the round.

Yeah, he's a bit of a binky.

Saw a ton of him.   Drafted when I was high school and really hit his prime when I was in college.    One of those eye test guys.   For where I was drafting, figured why not.
His 03 season was really special to watch. One of THE best offensive seasons in this era.

Re: 2020 Historical Draft Thread: NOW OPEN!!!
« Reply #287 on: March 23, 2020, 01:59:22 PM »

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Good round, boys. I think the 2nd round is when things start to get really interesting.
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C: Ben Wallace / Andrew Bynum

Re: 2020 Historical Draft Thread: NOW OPEN!!!
« Reply #288 on: March 23, 2020, 02:07:07 PM »

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Good round, boys. I think the 2nd round is when things start to get really interesting.

Quite interested in where you're putting Tim Duncan.

Does this mean you're using a season in which he exclusively played Center?
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PG: Jrue Holiday / Isaiah Thomas / Larry Hughes
SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

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« Reply #289 on: March 23, 2020, 02:09:34 PM »

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Good round, boys. I think the 2nd round is when things start to get really interesting.

Quite interested in where you're putting Tim Duncan.

Does this mean you're using a season in which he exclusively played Center?
I'm not sure yet. That's mostly just a starting point. If I choose a season earlier in his career, I could definitely put him in either big spot.
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C: Ben Wallace / Andrew Bynum

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« Reply #290 on: March 23, 2020, 05:30:29 PM »

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My Way Too Early Tiered Rankings

Tier 1 -- Lucked into a good slot or a player that fell
Dallas (Lebron) -- Went right where he should have
Utah (Shaq) -- Should have gone #2, was a gift at #3
Denver (Duncan) -- I used to argue with a friend at great length in the 2000s that KG was just as good of a player as Duncan.  It was really hard to make that argument.  Getting Duncan after KG is a blessing in that regard.
LAC (Curry) -- I had Curry #8 on my board, which is probably lower than I should have when I step back and think about it.  His offensive efficiency and prowess is unmatched, IMO.  I do have some issues with his performance in the clutch and how stacked the PG position is over these two decades.  But picking him here doesn't hurt you, I'd be happy to build around him.
Philly (Kawhi) -- Right where I had him ranked.  I think he's just as easy to build around as KG (unselfish, defensively elite, proven can help other stars thrive), except was scooped up 4 picks later.
Boston (Durant) -- His peak is arguably not far off from Lebron's and he can do a lot of things.  Picked at the exact spot I had him ranked.
LAL (Kobe) -- Steal of the draft so far.  Talentwise alone, he's a top 3 player in this game.  Challenge is to put talent around him that he can get along with.  Not that hard, but still has to be done.
Houston (Wade) -- Was picked two spots above where I had him ranked, but that is fine.  There's a big drop-off at SG after him I think.
Indiana (Dirk) -- There have been 3 absurd powerhouse teams over the past two decades (LAL, MIA, GSW).  Dirk took one of them down without any fellow all-stars.  To get a building block like that at pick #11 is great value.

Tier 2 -- Took a player earlier than I expected
Toronto (KG) -- Somebody is right that KG's a great complementary player around other stars.  Toronto just has to hope that some star talent lasts til 2(13) while other teams can rely a little more on the dominance of their #1 player.  I'm concerned this team might end up looking too much like the Celtics which isn't going to be enough in this draft.
Milwaukee (Giannis) -- If you're ok locking yourself into a specific position with your #1, then Kobe and Dirk were better overall talents IMO.  The benefits to Giannis are that it keeps your positional options open while also locking up a strong identity of defense. 
OKC (Pierce) -- Was my least ranked player taken in the first round.  I think he needs to be the second best player on his team.  I see 4 players still available that I think could make that work out.
Miami (CP3) -- Love him, but he wasn't my best PG available at this pick.  Although its very close and he is the Point God.
Brooklyn (T-Mac) -- Fun player, was one of my faves when I was a teenager.  But never getting out of the first round weighs big on him in my mind.  Needs to be surrounded with some big time playoff performers, IMO. 
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Re: 2020 Historical Draft Thread: NOW OPEN!!!
« Reply #291 on: March 23, 2020, 05:50:55 PM »

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Not a huge fan of the Pierce pick this early. Imo the first round is used to stock up on MVP-level talent, but with Yoki's next pick coming up soon I think it'll turn out fine.

Yeah, I know there are probably other players on the board that is better, but I like what I'm getting in Paul here. He's probably one of the best all around players out there in his prime. A guy that can do it on either ends on the floor.

And I haven't even mention the clutch performances.

Yes, he's not an MVP caliber player, but he's certainly a guy any team would be happy to build around. And I'm more than happy to have him here in OKC.

Now, I'm debating, I have two seasons I am thinking of to pick for Paul here. 01-02 or 05-06. We all know what he did in 05-06, carrying that, and I'm sorry to say this, paltry Celtics team, but the 01-02 season is really intriguing. One, he's only 24 there, and looks a bit more athletic than the 05-06 counterpart. He also averaged 40% from 3PT (6 attempts per) that year and nearly 2 steals per game. But that year, he's not the leader we knew he would, yet. So this is kind of interesting for me. In both years, he averaged 26 a game, but he averaged a rebound and an assist more in 05-06 than what he tallied in 01-02. Interesting choice moving forward.

01-02 he also played SG, while he was a SF in 05-06. Not that it matters greatly, but I think it could swing my decisions moving forward as I build around him.
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SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
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C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

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« Reply #292 on: March 23, 2020, 06:09:18 PM »

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Love all the picks.

And Paul Pierce will get in this draft what he didn't get until the summer of 2007 - a chance to compete.

Still plenty of players out there to surround him with.

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« Reply #293 on: March 23, 2020, 06:47:50 PM »

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Dang, TMac was another guy I hoped would fall. His ‘03 season was ridiculous. 32 or so PPG with good shooting, could pass and rebound, awesome athleticism, and solid defence. What could’ve been had he stayed healthy
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« Reply #294 on: March 23, 2020, 06:48:52 PM »

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Not a huge fan of the Pierce pick this early. Imo the first round is used to stock up on MVP-level talent, but with Yoki's next pick coming up soon I think it'll turn out fine.

Yeah, I know there are probably other players on the board that is better, but I like what I'm getting in Paul here. He's probably one of the best all around players out there in his prime. A guy that can do it on either ends on the floor.

And I haven't even mention the clutch performances.

Yes, he's not an MVP caliber player, but he's certainly a guy any team would be happy to build around. And I'm more than happy to have him here in OKC.

Now, I'm debating, I have two seasons I am thinking of to pick for Paul here. 01-02 or 05-06. We all know what he did in 05-06, carrying that, and I'm sorry to say this, paltry Celtics team, but the 01-02 season is really intriguing. One, he's only 24 there, and looks a bit more athletic than the 05-06 counterpart. He also averaged 40% from 3PT (6 attempts per) that year and nearly 2 steals per game. But that year, he's not the leader we knew he would, yet. So this is kind of interesting for me. In both years, he averaged 26 a game, but he averaged a rebound and an assist more in 05-06 than what he tallied in 01-02. Interesting choice moving forward.

01-02 he also played SG, while he was a SF in 05-06. Not that it matters greatly, but I think it could swing my decisions moving forward as I build around him.

I wouldn't rule out 07-08 depending on how your team rounds out
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Re: 2020 Historical Draft Thread: NOW OPEN!!!
« Reply #295 on: March 23, 2020, 07:56:57 PM »

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Time for pick evaluations!!!
Pick 1: No-brainer choice. Lebron is the best all-around player of this era. I only considered Lebron and Shaq for that 1st spot. The caveat with Lebron is that you need to be careful who you build around him, as he needs the ball in his hands to thrive. 100% worth it though.

Pick 2: Kevin Garnett was a reach for me, but only slightly. I had him at the 4th spot. KG's an incredible player who's easy to build around, but I don't think he should have been picked ahead of Shaq. It'll be interesting to see how Somebody can justify picking KG in this draft.

Pick 3: Getting Shaq here is such a steal. In a draft where we use only one season, Shaq might be the best player of the 2000s. He was nearly unstoppable, and the add some great spacing? Watch out.

Pick 5: Picked higher than I was expecting, but Steph Curry is such a unique talent. We all know about the shooting, but add in great playmaking skills and some good defense, and you have the best PG in the draft. Underwhelming Finals performances does hurt his stock IMO

Pick 6: Kawhi is a guy who benefits a ton from the single season format. His 2019 playoffs run is magical, and can easily measure up to any other player in this draft. His limited playmaking might hurt him a bit though

Pick 7: I really like this pick, as KD was in my top 5 for this draft. I'd say he's the best all-around scorer of this era; he can hurt you from anywhere. Plus KD has continued to improve the other aspects of his game, like his defense and playmaking skills.

Pick 8: The Greek Freak is certainly an interesting option. He's quite ball-dominant, and combined with his lack of shooting, you'll need to give him the shooters to succeed. Do that, and this could be a sneaky good pick. Not to mention his defense is phenomenal for this type of game.

Pick 9: Ah, Kobe. Never thought I'd see the day I'd defend you. I think this pick is great; I had him at 6th. He's got the clutch gene, can play a mean defense, and his an excellent (if inefficient) scorer. Use his later seasons, and he'll be a refined playmaker.

Pick 10: D. Wade is a tricky guy to evaluate. No doubt he's an offense powerhouse, with his ability to slash the basket at the rim. Wade's also a pretty good defender as well. I just don't think his game, which involves a bunch of ball dominance, translates well to this draft. Maybe I'll be proven wrong.

Pick 11: This is the steal of the round. I'd put Dirk at 7th. Like Kawhi, he had an extremely impressive playoff run in 2011. Dirk fits perfectly in the modern style of the NBA, being an awesome 3pt shooter and scorer in general.

Pick 12: It pains me to say this, but The Truth was picked too early IMO. His game is really great for this style of play, but I don't think he's good enough to be the number 1 option. However, Yoki could easily make this pick look good with a good choice in the next round.

Pick 13: People are probably going to dislike this pick, but I think this is the right spot for CP3. Dude's just an all-around great player. His peak is MVP-lite. His game is so... efficient. Efficient scoring, efficient playmaking (low turnovers), and great defensively.

Pick 14: T-Mac is the biggest transparency from when he was picked, from where he is on my draft board. I ranked him 25th lol. Having said that, I don't mind this pick. Talent wise, he's up to par with anyone in this draft. His peak is just as good as Kobe's. Dynamite scorer, with some good playmaking chops. His lack of a playoffs success hurts him bad though.
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C: Ben Wallace / Andrew Bynum

Re: 2020 Historical Draft Thread: NOW OPEN!!!
« Reply #296 on: March 23, 2020, 08:14:41 PM »

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Time for pick evaluations!!!

Pick 12: It pains me to say this, but The Truth was picked too early IMO. His game is really great for this style of play, but I don't think he's good enough to be the number 1 option. However, Yoki could easily make this pick look good with a good choice in the next round.


I think he can. From 2002 to 2005 he was the GUY for Boston as far as a scoring option, and those are playoff teams. In the 2001-02, he led the league in 4th quarter scoring, IIRC.

He certainly does need help, and I would go as far as to admit to say that he needs a bit more than others, so I have to be good with the next few, but I think I have to dispute the number 1 option argument, as he has shown the he can.
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PG: Jrue Holiday / Isaiah Thomas / Larry Hughes
SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

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« Reply #297 on: March 23, 2020, 08:25:02 PM »

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Hey gang, im a little late to the party lol.  Was hoping a bigger name would fall, but im still happy to get DWade to start my team with.  Woulda loved to see Kobe drop another spot but oh well.  I just wanted a guy that can be star level on both sides of the ball, and Wade delivers that.  Just gonna have to think a bit more about shooting than i wanted to, but that's not the end of the world.

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« Reply #298 on: March 23, 2020, 09:28:15 PM »

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Is RockinRyA on the clock now or are we done for today?
Rockin never replied so at this point it's a no go.

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« Reply #299 on: March 23, 2020, 09:54:52 PM »

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I'm interested in trading up from #28. If anyone is interested in trading down, send me a PM.