Alarming Statistic 12 and 7 with big four

[KG Living Legend]

 Hayward missed 17 games
Walker 13 games
Brown 9 games
Tatum 5 games

 But when together only 12 wins and 7 losses. Small sample but man. Not good. Starting to think we have been blessed with injuries 🙏

[LilRip]

Who did we face in those 19 games?

Also, TP to anyone who has our record in the games Hayward missed and Kemba missed.

[The Oracle]

13-4 without Hayward
9-4 without Kemba
9-2 without Smart
8-2 without Brown
2-3 without Tatum
6-0 without Theis
11-2 without Kanter
0-2 without G. Williams

[The Oracle]

Games Hayward, Brown, Tatum and Kemba appeared in.

@ Phil. Loss
vs Tor. Win
@ NYK Win
@ Cha. Win
@ S.A. Win
vs Cle. Win
@ Ind. Loss
Vs Phil. Loss
@ Tor. Win
vs Cle. Win
vs Tor. Loss
vs S.A. Loss
@ Phil. Loss
vs N.O. Win
vs Chi. Win
vs LAL Win
vs G.S. Win
@ OKC Win
@ Hou. Loss

[gift]

13-4 without Hayward
9-4 without Kemba
9-2 without Smart
8-2 without Brown
2-3 without Tatum
6-0 without Theis
11-2 without Kanter
0-2 without G. Williams

Grant Williams is clearly the straw that stirs the drink.

[KG Living Legend]

 3 losses to Philly with the big four is BS

[The Oracle]

13-4 without Hayward
9-4 without Kemba
9-2 without Smart
8-2 without Brown
2-3 without Tatum
6-0 without Theis
11-2 without Kanter
0-2 without G. Williams

Grant Williams is clearly the straw that stirs the drink.

This team seemingly is unaffected by the loss of any one of the primary rotation save for Tatum.  Without Tatum on the floor everything craters.  Offense with Tatum 114.1 and without 105.7.  Defense with Tatum 103.2 and without 106.5.  Net rating with Tatum +10.8 and without -.8.  With Tatum 1897 minutes +432 and without 1008 minutes -40.

[MichiganAdam]

Games Hayward, Brown, Tatum and Kemba appeared in.

@ Phil. Loss
vs Tor. Win
@ NYK Win
@ Cha. Win
@ S.A. Win
vs Cle. Win
@ Ind. Loss
Vs Phil. Loss
@ Tor. Win
vs Cle. Win
vs Tor. Loss
vs S.A. Loss
@ Phil. Loss
vs N.O. Win
vs Chi. Win
vs LAL Win
vs G.S. Win
@ OKC Win
@ Hou. Loss

Only one "bad" loss in there versus SA.  Be nice to beat philly occasionally.  Couple nice wins in there, but also a bunch of should have beats

[jambr380]

 3 losses to Philly with the big four is BS

Yeah, I get that Philly has their issues, but I'd rather not face them in the 1st round (even though they are horrible on the road). The infuriating losses to HOU and BKN did not help our case in getting the 2nd seed...although, it's not like we are especially awesome against BKN (who we would face if we were the 2 seed) either.

[RockinRyA]

Too little sample size, not to mention Smart and Kanter injuries sprinkled in there along with back to backs. If we played more games we'd have better percentages for sure.

[chiken]

How long of a stretch did they actually all play together, I am pretty sure it was not 19 consecutive games...
Seems like they are always working someone back in. And then as soon as we think they are ready to hit a stride someone else goes out.
That has to have an effect on the overall on-court chemistry.

[mmmmm]

Games Hayward, Brown, Tatum and Kemba appeared in.

@ Phil. Loss
vs Tor. Win
@ NYK Win
@ Cha. Win
@ S.A. Win
vs Cle. Win
@ Ind. Loss
Vs Phil. Loss
@ Tor. Win
vs Cle. Win
vs Tor. Loss
vs S.A. Loss
@ Phil. Loss
vs N.O. Win
vs Chi. Win
vs LAL Win
vs G.S. Win
@ OKC Win
@ Hou. Loss

So, three of the 7 losses were to PHI, of which two were schedule losses (second game of a back-to-back, including a 3 games in 4 nights stretch).   Based on our last game against PHI and the way the two teams have gone in different directions, I'm really not concerned about those PHI losses.

Outside of PHI, the record with the big 4 is 12-4, which is a 62-win pace. 

 It's also important to note that in some of those games, not all of the big 4 were able to play all that much.  In the first game, Jaylen got dinged by early foul trouble.   Kemba got injured and left one game early and Hayward another.

Overall, with our 'big 4' on the floor, the Celtics have a phat Net Rating of +10 points per 100 possessions.  If we have lost games with those 4 present, it isn't because of them not playing well as a unit.