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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #120 on: February 04, 2020, 09:26:42 AM »

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I think Theis, contract filler, and two firsts could do the job for Capela. This not only gives Houston ammo to trade for RoCo, but a nice complementary big to replace Capela. So from Houston's perspective, they are trading an injured Capela for RoCo and Theis.
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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #121 on: February 04, 2020, 09:32:39 AM »

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I think Theis, contract filler, and two firsts could do the job for Capela. This not only gives Houston ammo to trade for RoCo, but a nice complementary big to replace Capela. So from Houston's perspective, they are trading an injured Capela for RoCo and Theis.

Is Capella really an upgrade from Theis?  I think Theis is very underrated by some.

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #122 on: February 04, 2020, 09:39:30 AM »

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I think Theis, contract filler, and two firsts could do the job for Capela. This not only gives Houston ammo to trade for RoCo, but a nice complementary big to replace Capela. So from Houston's perspective, they are trading an injured Capela for RoCo and Theis.

Is Capella really an upgrade from Theis?  I think Theis is very underrated by some.
I think he is. Better roll threat and better rebounding. Defense is different, not sure if he's an upgrade on that front. Worse spacing from shooting, but better vertical spacer.

I'd prefer to keep Theis and move Kanter as I think Theis provides something different than Capela. Though with Capela's foot injury I don't want to trade for him at all. Can't trade on of our two healthy big men with size for an injured one.

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #123 on: February 04, 2020, 09:52:38 AM »

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I do not think Houston makes just the deal with the Celtics. Think they take what Boston sends to them and moves it out for a wing

Hayward is not getting traded. Houston has nothing to match his 32 million contract. Smart is too important to the team to be moved.

Which begs the question .... why wouldn't the C's just trade those pieces for that wing?

Most of the Cs losses this year have been due to our wing / guard scoring off the bench being non-existent.   In those few games where we've had two of our 'core 4' get struck by cold shooting or out injured or caught by early foul trouble, we've had no one able to come off the bench and make up the scoring.  That's been a much bigger issue than the center position.

Probably because any wing we acquire won't be in the closing lineup, and Capella probably would. That somewhat caps the useful of getting a guy like say Covington over Capela for the C's even if in a vacuum a wing  has more value around the league.

If our concern is over a closing lineup, then I'd rather have Theis at the 5 than Capela.   HOU agrees - they go with Tucker at the 5 a ton in clutch situations.

Ehhhh, maybe against the warriors they do. But the old warriors are kind of not a thing right now, I dont see a team in the eats Capella cant play against this year. And HOUS does that too get shooting on the floor, in a Kemba, Hayward, Brown, Tatum ending unit thats less important. Capella would close a lot, Smart is some situations.

Also a quick check shows Capela plays almost 8 minutes a game this year in the 4th quarte, pretty much exactly what Tatum and Brown play which would seem to indicate he's not being played off the floor. I dont now how to check how much he plays the last five minutes specifically tho.

I'm not saying Theis for Capela I a home run or anything, but I get why the Celtics would look hard at it.

Per 82games.com, Capela has played ~68% of available clutch minutes.   Tucker has played 99%. 

I just feel like the way that the Cs play their starting/closing defense and offense is more suited to a player like Theis who switches so easily on defense and who can make shots from the arc and is playing fantastic pick & roll this year on offense. 

Any benefit Cappella might provide on defense seems marginal and selective and I just don't think it's that much of a difference maker to swap him in for Theis. 

But we all get opinions and it's okay to disagree.

Capela is a better switching defender than Theis. That's not really that close. That is not to discount Theis. He's been good this year, but he's not as good as Capela.

We will miss Theis' shooting, but CBS offense has moved toward diving big men more than popping big men.

But Theis IS a good roll man.  He's averaging way more points-per-play as a roller than Capela.


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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #124 on: February 04, 2020, 12:05:42 PM »

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This made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/Kungu_NBA/status/1224734001971302400

Jaylen?? Seriously?

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #125 on: February 04, 2020, 12:13:34 PM »

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This made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/Kungu_NBA/status/1224734001971302400

Jaylen?? Seriously?

Wow. Houston fans are smoking some  good stuff down there.

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« Reply #126 on: February 04, 2020, 12:19:11 PM »

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This made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/Kungu_NBA/status/1224734001971302400

Jaylen?? Seriously?

Wow. Houston fans are smoking some  good stuff down there.
Not sure which is more absurd, expecting to land Brown in a Capela trade or questioning whether Capela is better than Theis.

Homerism runs rampart among fans, no matter the team we support.

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #127 on: February 04, 2020, 12:19:31 PM »

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This made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/Kungu_NBA/status/1224734001971302400

Jaylen?? Seriously?
I think fans nationally are sleeping on just how good Jaylen is.

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« Reply #128 on: February 04, 2020, 12:58:55 PM »

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Boston is the same. Both brown and Hayward should get more touches than Tatum.

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« Reply #129 on: February 04, 2020, 01:12:17 PM »

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ESPN Sources: Minnesota orchestrating three-team trade talks with Houston and Atlanta -- with hopes of ultimately turning discussions into a four-way deal that brings Golden State G D'Angelo Russell to Timberwolves.

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #130 on: February 04, 2020, 01:16:55 PM »

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This made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/Kungu_NBA/status/1224734001971302400

Jaylen?? Seriously?
I think fans nationally are sleeping on just how good Jaylen is.

To be fair a lot of Boston fans have slept on slept on Jaylen Brown too. Whether its booing his selection on draft night or whining about how he was "overpaid" this offseason.

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« Reply #131 on: February 04, 2020, 01:19:41 PM »

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ESPN Sources: Minnesota orchestrating three-team trade talks with Houston and Atlanta -- with hopes of ultimately turning discussions into a four-way deal that brings Golden State G D'Angelo Russell to Timberwolves.
Minnesota will have to give up a huge number of draft picks to get Russell. They simply do not have enough talent on their roster outside of Towns & Wiggins to swing a trade for a quasi-star like Russell.

Something like what Houston did to get Westbrook or LAC did to get Paul George. Loads of picks. Find a way to put enough picks on the table and tradeable mid-size contracts that GSW can re-route those picks and tradeable contracts elsewhere for win-now players that can get them closer to a Championship.

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #132 on: February 04, 2020, 01:23:37 PM »

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It depends how healthy Capela is. Right now you can't give them Theis and be stuck with a gimpy Capela and Kanter.

Minnesota wants 2 #1's for Covington...Celtics need to bolster the bench. Would like to see a pure shooter there.

Covington would be interesting.

I'd rather go after Covington than Bertans or someone like that - a one way player, I mean. A shooter. Covington can shoot and defend. He'd be a really good fit on this team. Low usage player who likes to spot up and play off of others. On the books for another 2 years past this season.

That is a player I'd be happy to give up some assets for. Really strengthen Boston's bench. Two late firsts is a fine price for such a player.

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« Reply #133 on: February 04, 2020, 01:31:26 PM »

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It depends how healthy Capela is. Right now you can't give them Theis and be stuck with a gimpy Capela and Kanter.

Minnesota wants 2 #1's for Covington...Celtics need to bolster the bench. Would like to see a pure shooter there.

Covington would be interesting.

I'd rather go after Covington than Bertans or someone like that - a one way player, I mean. A shooter. Covington can shoot and defend. He'd be a really good fit on this team. Low usage player who likes to spot up and play off of others. On the books for another 2 years past this season.

That is a player I'd be happy to give up some assets for. Really strengthen Boston's bench. Two late firsts is a fine price for such a player.

Langford, Poirier, and Green (or Edwards) is enough. Langford is one first. I'd give them the Bucks first too. They supposedly want two firsts.

They can then flip Dieng, Langford, and the Bucks first to the Warriors for Russell, making it a three-team trade.

That gets the Warriors under the tax and gets them draft assets and Langford. It gets the Wolves Russell.

It gets the Celtics another forward who can rotate in and shoot.

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« Reply #134 on: February 04, 2020, 01:32:33 PM »

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It depends how healthy Capela is. Right now you can't give them Theis and be stuck with a gimpy Capela and Kanter.

Minnesota wants 2 #1's for Covington...Celtics need to bolster the bench. Would like to see a pure shooter there.

Covington would be interesting.

I'd rather go after Covington than Bertans or someone like that - a one way player, I mean. A shooter. Covington can shoot and defend. He'd be a really good fit on this team. Low usage player who likes to spot up and play off of others. On the books for another 2 years past this season.

That is a player I'd be happy to give up some assets for. Really strengthen Boston's bench. Two late firsts is a fine price for such a player.
Agreed - I wish he was better on ball (like say on the level of Bogdan) but that'd make him an All-Star calibre player lol.
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