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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2020, 05:30:28 PM »

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Capela is a better matchup when we're playing Philly. Indy maybe. But not many other teams.

The things Capela does well, rim protection and rebounding, maybe replaces the things Theis does better than him? I don't know. Capela can't shoot, can't be trusted with the ball at the end of the game because he's an awful FT shooter, and has no real post up game. He's basically a more accomplished version of what we hope RW will become.

Theis can at least keep a big honest with his 3 pt shooting, isn't useless in P&R, and for all Capela's shotblocking chops, he's less than Theis on a /36 basis.

I don't know, maybe Danny loves his contract and the value a mid-level deal like his can bring if Ainge needs ammo for a big trade down the line. But does this make us a demonstrably better team the rest of this year? I don't think so. If it does, it's marginally better, at best. I would pass on this deal, I don't think Capela fits our team.


Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #91 on: February 03, 2020, 06:29:22 PM »

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Gordon and capella
For
Hayward and Kanter

Who says no?

Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #92 on: February 03, 2020, 06:31:19 PM »

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Gordon and capella
For
Hayward and Kanter

Who says no?
Most likely, the Celtics.

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Brian Windhorst on Gordon Hayward (on the Lowe Post) “I feel very confident that he’s not going to be traded”
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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #93 on: February 03, 2020, 06:37:14 PM »

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Gordon and capella
For
Hayward and Kanter

Who says no?

Hayward is CBS 's adopted son.   Either Gordon wants to leave or Danny hasa trade so good that even Stevens could go along with.

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« Reply #94 on: February 03, 2020, 06:53:33 PM »

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If we were talking about collins it would be a no brainer.  Capela on the other hand doesnt move the needle enough for me.  Collins is everything the cs need in a center.  Capela is good, signed long term and fits salary wise with the rest of the contracts the cs have.  If atlanta is really rumored to want capela and moving Collins the cs need to move all the remaining assets for that guy.

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« Reply #95 on: February 03, 2020, 06:53:55 PM »

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Gordon and capella
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Hayward and Kanter

Who says no?

Us.


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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #96 on: February 03, 2020, 07:20:26 PM »

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I believe if Butler signed with Houston, we would have gotten Capela and Gordon
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #97 on: February 03, 2020, 07:24:48 PM »

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I do not think Houston makes just the deal with the Celtics. Think they take what Boston sends to them and moves it out for a wing

Hayward is not getting traded. Houston has nothing to match his 32 million contract. Smart is too important to the team to be moved.

Which begs the question .... why wouldn't the C's just trade those pieces for that wing?

Most of the Cs losses this year have been due to our wing / guard scoring off the bench being non-existent.   In those few games where we've had two of our 'core 4' get struck by cold shooting or out injured or caught by early foul trouble, we've had no one able to come off the bench and make up the scoring.  That's been a much bigger issue than the center position.

Probably because any wing we acquire won't be in the closing lineup, and Capella probably would. That somewhat caps the useful of getting a guy like say Covington over Capela for the C's even if in a vacuum a wing  has more value around the league.

If our concern is over a closing lineup, then I'd rather have Theis at the 5 than Capela.   HOU agrees - they go with Tucker at the 5 a ton in clutch situations.

Ehhhh, maybe against the warriors they do. But the old warriors are kind of not a thing right now, I dont see a team in the eats Capella cant play against this year. And HOUS does that too get shooting on the floor, in a Kemba, Hayward, Brown, Tatum ending unit thats less important. Capella would close a lot, Smart is some situations.

Also a quick check shows Capela plays almost 8 minutes a game this year in the 4th quarte, pretty much exactly what Tatum and Brown play which would seem to indicate he's not being played off the floor. I dont now how to check how much he plays the last five minutes specifically tho.

I'm not saying Theis for Capela I a home run or anything, but I get why the Celtics would look hard at it.

Per 82games.com, Capela has played ~68% of available clutch minutes.   Tucker has played 99%. 

I just feel like the way that the Cs play their starting/closing defense and offense is more suited to a player like Theis who switches so easily on defense and who can make shots from the arc and is playing fantastic pick & roll this year on offense. 

Any benefit Cappella might provide on defense seems marginal and selective and I just don't think it's that much of a difference maker to swap him in for Theis. 

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« Reply #98 on: February 03, 2020, 07:28:53 PM »

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I'd trade Kanter over Theis.

Theis did a great job as a backup center two years ago. I believe that is his ideal role on a team.

Theis and Capela would do a great job as a 1-2 punch at center. Keeping Boston's defensive integrity in tact for 48 minutes.

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« Reply #99 on: February 03, 2020, 07:29:07 PM »

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I do not think Houston makes just the deal with the Celtics. Think they take what Boston sends to them and moves it out for a wing

Hayward is not getting traded. Houston has nothing to match his 32 million contract. Smart is too important to the team to be moved.

Which begs the question .... why wouldn't the C's just trade those pieces for that wing?

Most of the Cs losses this year have been due to our wing / guard scoring off the bench being non-existent.   In those few games where we've had two of our 'core 4' get struck by cold shooting or out injured or caught by early foul trouble, we've had no one able to come off the bench and make up the scoring.  That's been a much bigger issue than the center position.

Probably because any wing we acquire won't be in the closing lineup, and Capella probably would. That somewhat caps the useful of getting a guy like say Covington over Capela for the C's even if in a vacuum a wing  has more value around the league.

If our concern is over a closing lineup, then I'd rather have Theis at the 5 than Capela.   HOU agrees - they go with Tucker at the 5 a ton in clutch situations.

Ehhhh, maybe against the warriors they do. But the old warriors are kind of not a thing right now, I dont see a team in the eats Capella cant play against this year. And HOUS does that too get shooting on the floor, in a Kemba, Hayward, Brown, Tatum ending unit thats less important. Capella would close a lot, Smart is some situations.

Also a quick check shows Capela plays almost 8 minutes a game this year in the 4th quarte, pretty much exactly what Tatum and Brown play which would seem to indicate he's not being played off the floor. I dont now how to check how much he plays the last five minutes specifically tho.

I'm not saying Theis for Capela I a home run or anything, but I get why the Celtics would look hard at it.

Per 82games.com, Capela has played ~68% of available clutch minutes.   Tucker has played 99%. 

I just feel like the way that the Cs play their starting/closing defense and offense is more suited to a player like Theis who switches so easily on defense and who can make shots from the arc and is playing fantastic pick & roll this year on offense. 

Any benefit Cappella might provide on defense seems marginal and selective and I just don't think it's that much of a difference maker to swap him in for Theis. 

But we all get opinions and it's okay to disagree.

Capela is a better switching defender than Theis. That's not really that close. That is not to discount Theis. He's been good this year, but he's not as good as Capela.

We will miss Theis' shooting, but CBS offense has moved toward diving big men more than popping big men.

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« Reply #100 on: February 03, 2020, 08:05:55 PM »

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Re: Rockets Are Shopping Capela
« Reply #101 on: February 03, 2020, 08:07:53 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: February 03, 2020, 08:39:55 PM »

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I'd trade Kanter over Theis.

Theis did a great job as a backup center two years ago. I believe that is his ideal role on a team.

Theis and Capela would do a great job as a 1-2 punch at center. Keeping Boston's defensive integrity in tact for 48 minutes.

I agree. If there’s an option of who to trade, I would prefer Kanter.



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« Reply #103 on: February 03, 2020, 08:50:32 PM »

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If we were talking about collins it would be a no brainer.  Capela on the other hand doesnt move the needle enough for me.  Collins is everything the cs need in a center.  Capela is good, signed long term and fits salary wise with the rest of the contracts the cs have.  If atlanta is really rumored to want capela and moving Collins the cs need to move all the remaining assets for that guy.

Yeah, HOU reportedly asked for Smart in a Capela trade. I would pass on that. But, if we were doing a 3-way wiith ATL, I would have to think long and hard about sending out Smart in a Collins deal. I have always really liked Collins and obviously he would fit in extremely well in our line-up. We would probably have to make a follow-up deal sending out Kanter or Theis for a wing, though. Now it just sounds like I am shuffling the chairs.

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« Reply #104 on: February 03, 2020, 09:07:24 PM »

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If we were talking about collins it would be a no brainer.  Capela on the other hand doesnt move the needle enough for me.  Collins is everything the cs need in a center.  Capela is good, signed long term and fits salary wise with the rest of the contracts the cs have.  If atlanta is really rumored to want capela and moving Collins the cs need to move all the remaining assets for that guy.

Yeah, HOU reportedly asked for Smart in a Capela trade. I would pass on that. But, if we were doing a 3-way wiith ATL, I would have to think long and hard about sending out Smart in a Collins deal. I have always really liked Collins and obviously he would fit in extremely well in our line-up. We would probably have to make a follow-up deal sending out Kanter or Theis for a wing, though. Now it just sounds like I am shuffling the chairs.

In a summer when Team USA needed high upside players, especially good bigs, coach Pop kept Marcus Smart over John Collins.

That says something about who contributes more to winning I think.