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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2020, 05:01:46 AM »

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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2020, 05:28:31 AM »

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The amount of ignorance I'm seeing in some of the replies is incredibly disheartening, but not surprising.

In reply to https://twitter.com/KennyUnfazed/status/1219426408004493312 I've seen comments like:

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How is this the NBA's responsibility?

**NBA allows player to make millions.

**Player wastes millions.

**Blame NBA. Typical.

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That boy is on crack it has nothing to do with mental health.

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That’s like saying there is no such thing as a murderer who’s not mentally ill. it’s all about how you resort to it. Don’t use mental illness as an excuse or handicap for drug addiction. It’s like a obese person eating a pie of pizza and blaming genetics.

Ugh
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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2020, 06:27:17 AM »

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One thing to add:  I don’t know what the NBAPA offers for insurance / access to mental health.  It could be that there’s help if Delonte accesses it. Unfortunately, often times people struggling with mental illness refuse help, whether it be therapy or medication. In those cases, short of committing somebody, there’s often no way to force them to get the treatment they need.

And, it’s very possible that he may have a co-occurring substance abuse issue, as well. That makes it doubly hard to treat.


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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2020, 06:35:48 AM »

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They need to maybe get him a guardian, as he is not making good decisions.  This is very sad.

Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2020, 06:42:56 AM »

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The amount of ignorance I'm seeing in some of the replies is incredibly disheartening, but not surprising.

In reply to https://twitter.com/KennyUnfazed/status/1219426408004493312 I've seen comments like:

Quote
How is this the NBA's responsibility?

**NBA allows player to make millions.

**Player wastes millions.

**Blame NBA. Typical.

Quote
That boy is on crack it has nothing to do with mental health.

Quote
That’s like saying there is no such thing as a murderer who’s not mentally ill. it’s all about how you resort to it. Don’t use mental illness as an excuse or handicap for drug addiction. It’s like a obese person eating a pie of pizza and blaming genetics.

Ugh

I tend to agree with some of the quotes and or points, most likely delonte‘s problem is more about drugs than mental illness.

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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2020, 06:47:07 AM »

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The amount of ignorance I'm seeing in some of the replies is incredibly disheartening, but not surprising.

In reply to https://twitter.com/KennyUnfazed/status/1219426408004493312 I've seen comments like:

Quote
How is this the NBA's responsibility?

**NBA allows player to make millions.

**Player wastes millions.

**Blame NBA. Typical.

Quote
That boy is on crack it has nothing to do with mental health.

Quote
That’s like saying there is no such thing as a murderer who’s not mentally ill. it’s all about how you resort to it. Don’t use mental illness as an excuse or handicap for drug addiction. It’s like a obese person eating a pie of pizza and blaming genetics.

Ugh

I tend to agree with some of the quotes and or points, most likely delonte‘s problem is more about drugs than mental illness.
Drug addiction is a mental illness. You can’t treat them independently, especially in a case like Delonte’s where the mental health problems are already known about.
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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2020, 07:15:34 AM »

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The amount of ignorance I'm seeing in some of the replies is incredibly disheartening, but not surprising.

In reply to https://twitter.com/KennyUnfazed/status/1219426408004493312 I've seen comments like:

Quote
How is this the NBA's responsibility?

**NBA allows player to make millions.

**Player wastes millions.

**Blame NBA. Typical.

Quote
That boy is on crack it has nothing to do with mental health.

Quote
That’s like saying there is no such thing as a murderer who’s not mentally ill. it’s all about how you resort to it. Don’t use mental illness as an excuse or handicap for drug addiction. It’s like a obese person eating a pie of pizza and blaming genetics.

Ugh

I tend to agree with some of the quotes and or points, most likely delonte‘s problem is more about drugs than mental illness.
Drug addiction is a mental illness. You can’t treat them independently, especially in a case like Delonte’s where the mental health problems are already known about.

No it is not, it might be related, but there is a difference. Anyone can become a drug addict in a certain situation and enviroment, and simply by staying off of it can cure himself. Mental illness is a whole different animal
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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2020, 07:58:32 AM »

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Breaks my heart. One of my fav Celtics during early 00's.  Hoping he gets help.   Not a doc, but behavior seems like schizophrenia. A good HS buddy and teammate of mine has been battling it for the last 40 plus years.  His 93 year old mom (God bless her) still takes care of him as best she can.

Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2020, 08:02:33 AM »

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The amount of ignorance I'm seeing in some of the replies is incredibly disheartening, but not surprising.

In reply to https://twitter.com/KennyUnfazed/status/1219426408004493312 I've seen comments like:

Quote
How is this the NBA's responsibility?

**NBA allows player to make millions.

**Player wastes millions.

**Blame NBA. Typical.

Quote
That boy is on crack it has nothing to do with mental health.

Quote
That’s like saying there is no such thing as a murderer who’s not mentally ill. it’s all about how you resort to it. Don’t use mental illness as an excuse or handicap for drug addiction. It’s like a obese person eating a pie of pizza and blaming genetics.

Ugh

I tend to agree with some of the quotes and or points, most likely delonte‘s problem is more about drugs than mental illness.
Drug addiction is a mental illness. You can’t treat them independently, especially in a case like Delonte’s where the mental health problems are already known about.

No it is not, it might be related, but there is a difference. Anyone can become a drug addict in a certain situation and enviroment, and simply by staying off of it can cure himself. Mental illness is a whole different animal
Forgive me for taking the word of the APA & NIDA over yours. Even the DSM-V lists criteria for classifying addiction as a mental health condition called “Substance Use Disorder.”
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2020, 08:08:25 AM »

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Oh man I hope Delonte gets the help he deserves. I remember going to the summer league in 04 as a 9 year old and being scared to death to approach players for autographs. I eventually worked up the courage to go up to Delonte and ask him to sign a ball I had with me. He was so unbelievably cool and kind to me, even asked me some questions about myself. Always liked the guy since. Sadly it’s often the kindest people who suffer the most :(
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Saw the video last night.  That's really sad stuff. 

He's looks pretty gone.  Hopefully, he can get some help ASAP


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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2020, 08:52:25 AM »

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One thing to add:  I don’t know what the NBAPA offers for insurance / access to mental health.  It could be that there’s help if Delonte accesses it. Unfortunately, often times people struggling with mental illness refuse help, whether it be therapy or medication. In those cases, short of committing somebody, there’s often no way to force them to get the treatment they need.

And, it’s very possible that he may have a co-occurring substance abuse issue, as well. That makes it doubly hard to treat.
Sadly, this is all true.

Adding on to this excellent post:

For those with mental illness, especially those that are young, like less than 35, coming to grips with the fact that you are ill is extremely difficult. You have felt a certain way for your whole life and think that everybody feels this way, it's just normal. So they eschew medications and therapy.

But even for those that do get on the meds and go to therapy, it can be short-lived. The meds make you feel things differently. They have side effects, too. So, it is very common for patients to stop taking the meds because you want to feel what you consider to be "normal" again.

And therapy, good therapy that makes you see how poor your decision making is and how your disease and decision making while in the throes of your disease has affected you and those around you that you love, is not easy. For those with even a lick of self-awareness, it is a sobering act that smashes you in the face with reality. Therapy of this type can be more painful than any physical therapy you can do. Most sufferers of mental illness don't last in therapy for these very reasons.

Also, addiction is very much a part of mental illness. Whether they realize it or not, those that suffer from mental illness can be aware they are suffering and turn to self medication than going to a doctor to get proper medication. Alcoholism and drug addiction, other types of mental illness, run concurrent with other diagnosis, for this reason. The person with the illness feels a relief of their symptoms through the high they get off the alcohol or drugs.

And then you can also, as a person with mental illness who adheres to your therapy and taking your meds, have bouts that are so bad, the meds and therapy do little to alleviate the suffering. Which could necessitate an addition or change to your medications and that is never simple. It means you need to get through the suffering while the doctors figure out which meds will help you and allow those meds to take full affect in your system.

Being mentally ill, to get better or to get the illness in check and under control, you must make good decisions and mental illness more than most other medical conditions affects your decision making capabilities. So making the right decision about seeking help, going to your appointments, taking your medications, applying what you learn in therapy and living your life in a productive way is enormously difficult, to many with mental illness, it's impossible.

Believe me I know. I suffer.
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Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2020, 02:29:36 PM »

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The amount of ignorance I'm seeing in some of the replies is incredibly disheartening, but not surprising.

In reply to https://twitter.com/KennyUnfazed/status/1219426408004493312 I've seen comments like:

Quote
How is this the NBA's responsibility?

**NBA allows player to make millions.

**Player wastes millions.

**Blame NBA. Typical.

Quote
That boy is on crack it has nothing to do with mental health.

Quote
That’s like saying there is no such thing as a murderer who’s not mentally ill. it’s all about how you resort to it. Don’t use mental illness as an excuse or handicap for drug addiction. It’s like a obese person eating a pie of pizza and blaming genetics.

Ugh

I tend to agree with some of the quotes and or points, most likely delonte‘s problem is more about drugs than mental illness.
Drug addiction is a mental illness. You can’t treat them independently, especially in a case like Delonte’s where the mental health problems are already known about.

No it is not, it might be related, but there is a difference. Anyone can become a drug addict in a certain situation and enviroment, and simply by staying off of it can cure himself. Mental illness is a whole different animal


Dude you have no clue. Addiction is a mental health issue, it’s not the drug. If your dealing with mental health issues, drugs is a crutch to help not feel the pain anymore. Addicts when they get off have to replace it with something else. My uncle replaced it with scratch off tickets and fishing. Not all mental illness turns to drugs, there usually something in its place that a person does to help ease the pain. Gamble,sex,buying things, drugs is same things as those, they can all hurt you life in one way or an other.

Re: Delonte West trending on Twitter...
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One thing to add:  I don’t know what the NBAPA offers for insurance / access to mental health.  It could be that there’s help if Delonte accesses it. Unfortunately, often times people struggling with mental illness refuse help, whether it be therapy or medication. In those cases, short of committing somebody, there’s often no way to force them to get the treatment they need.

And, it’s very possible that he may have a co-occurring substance abuse issue, as well. That makes it doubly hard to treat.

TP ...for the truth .....and to ease thatenormous negitive TP load ..LOL

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