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Embiid firing shots?
« on: January 03, 2020, 02:48:02 PM »

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“We just got to look at ourselves and see what we can do individually,” Embiid told reporters.

“We’ve got to help each other even if it means being outside of your comfort zone for the greater [good] to help the team win.

“Meaning that, if you’ve got to space and shoot it, you’ve got to do it. We need everybody to buy into that and we’ll be fine, we’re going to be fine.”

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Lot of talk at the practice facility today about accountability and so forth. Mostly good stuff.

Here's Joel Embiid on the offensive struggles — doesn't seem that hard to read between the lines:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nba/joel-embiid-just-notsosubtly-blamed-ben-simmons-for-philadelphias-problems/news-story/5800d86da5bb2ad2edd67e70d0557e77

Interesting, and a lot of 76ers fans echo the same sentiments.

They fully expected Simmons to at least develop some semblance of a shot, let's see if this has any effect on their future upcoming games.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2020, 02:53:59 PM »

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“We just got to look at ourselves and see what we can do individually,” Embiid told reporters.

“We’ve got to help each other even if it means being outside of your comfort zone for the greater [good] to help the team win.

“Meaning that, if you’ve got to space and shoot it, you’ve got to do it. We need everybody to buy into that and we’ll be fine, we’re going to be fine.”

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Lot of talk at the practice facility today about accountability and so forth. Mostly good stuff.

Here's Joel Embiid on the offensive struggles — doesn't seem that hard to read between the lines:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nba/joel-embiid-just-notsosubtly-blamed-ben-simmons-for-philadelphias-problems/news-story/5800d86da5bb2ad2edd67e70d0557e77

Interesting, and a lot of 76ers fans echo the same sentiments.

They fully expected Simmons to at least develop some semblance of a shot, let's see if this has any effect on their future upcoming games.

Richardson also made comments to the press recently about accountability and issues on the team... if they lose again tonight things could get even louder. Currently in 6th place in east.

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2020, 03:22:28 PM »

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My heart aches for Al Horford in all of this.

He left us for PHI for more money....teaming up with Embiid (vice going against him, I presume).......left us because of the discourse in BOS with Kyrie and OTHER things.....

I wonder how HE feels right now?

He IS the enemy right now, so that's how "I" feel about Big Al. He can watch the playoffs while we advance PAST PHI in a few months for all I care........................

There is NO guarantee that Embiid will stay healthy....there is NO guarantee that he can even play an ENTIRE series.

There is NO guarantee that Al will be a good stopgap for them WHEN Embiid needs to sit...at least to ME this hasn't been evident.....at least not yet.

And Joel Embiid WILL need to sit out a game or two of a series...make no mistake about this.

There is ZERO guarantee that Simmons WILL develop a deep threat this year. "IF" he does then he certainly will NOT be lethal enough to be a threat for the playoffs.

Off topic but I give HUUUUGE props to Greek Freak...he will NEVER be a Larry Bird from deep but he can nail a FEW of these, especially if he gets hot....enough to keep defenses honest.

Greek Freak WORKED.........is STILL working his game..........I love this dude.

I can only guess that the subject at hand IS Ben Simmons.......while I think dude is EASILY a top 15-20 talent he can be SO MUCH MORE..................

Clock is ticking, Ben.



Don't need to BE Larry but if he takes the mantle he can help his TEAM so much.............

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2020, 03:43:47 PM »

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How does Horford feel?

Like i would


RICH ....laughing all the way to the bank

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I've never understood why we feel inclined to feel bad for Horford. He left us to join a team he believed was a true 'contender,' for money $$$ and a division rival.

Sucks for him, but so what? He chose that route, that's on him. It was clear Simmons/Embiid was never going to fit that well. The problem is Brown doesn't use PnR or pick and pop at all in his offensive schemes, to be frank, sometimes I watch the 76ers run their plays, and have no clue what designated play they are officially initiating.
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How does Horford feel?

Like i would


RICH ....laughing all the way to the bank

True, lol.....I get the money being offered.........but I wonder if - especially if PHI crashes - it was worth it for him.

If he gets traded or discarded it will probably be to some obscure team out there.......

I thought that Al would be a stabilizing force for PHI but it hasn't happened yet.

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Sixers are 5th in the East, but they are still on a 52 win pace, which is actually better than last year.  They are also only 0.5 games behind Toronto for the 4th seed, though are just 0.5 games ahead of Indiana for 6th.  Now I'm sure they'd rather not have to play Milwaukee in the semi's, but I don't think any other team really scares them in the playoffs.  And that is really all that matters for the Sixers.  As long as they are healthy for the playoffs, I don't think they really care about seeding all that much other than trying to avoid the Bucks as long as possible.  And it is the playoffs from which the Sixers will be judged. 
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Sixers are 5th in the East, but they are still on a 52 win pace, which is actually better than last year.  They are also only 0.5 games behind Toronto for the 4th seed, though are just 0.5 games ahead of Indiana for 6th.  Now I'm sure they'd rather not have to play Milwaukee in the semi's, but I don't think any other team really scares them in the playoffs.  And that is really all that matters for the Sixers.  As long as they are healthy for the playoffs, I don't think they really care about seeding all that much other than trying to avoid the Bucks as long as possible.  And it is the playoffs from which the Sixers will be judged.

Given the history of their postseason, and the exception being the closely knit game 7 series against the Raptors, do the 76ers even qualify for being able to have post-season success bragging rights?
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 04:07:22 PM »

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From the sounds of things it is more of a confidence issue for Ben Simmons than a lack of work on his jump-shot. He puts in the time in the summer working on his jump-shot but he is afraid to experiment with it in games.

Similar to how Andrew Bynum was learning the sky-hook from Kareem but never had the bottle to actually use in a game -- as Kareem said, what is the point in spending all that time practicing it if you won't use it in a game. You gotta use it in the games.

Scottie Pippen said this was the hardest thing for him too. He was a lousy jump-shooter when he first came into the league. He was afraid to even take jump-shots during games when he was in the early stages of developing his jumper. But he forced himself to take 1-2 every game and eventually got over it and became a solid jump-shooter in time.

That is Simmons' issue. He is not brave enough to take the shots he is working on in practice during games. He doesn't have the confidence in himself.

That (confidence to experiment during games) rather than a lack of work ethic to develop a jump-shot or an arrogance of belief that he doesn't need a jump-shot.

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My heart aches for Al Horford in all of this.



He's got at least 97 million pieces of paper to cry into.
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My heart aches for Al Horford in all of this.



He's got at least 97 million pieces of paper to cry into.

I have exactly zero sympathy for Al Horford. He signed with a  team whose best player PLAYS HIS POSITION and has never actually proven itself capable of winning anything. And he got paid.

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From the sounds of things it is more of a confidence issue for Ben Simmons than a lack of work on his jump-shot. He puts in the time in the summer working on his jump-shot but he is afraid to experiment with it in games.

Similar to how Andrew Bynum was learning the sky-hook from Kareem but never had the bottle to actually use in a game -- as Kareem said, what is the point in spending all that time practicing it if you won't use it in a game. You gotta use it in the games.

Scottie Pippen said this was the hardest thing for him too. He was a lousy jump-shooter when he first came into the league. He was afraid to even take jump-shots during games when he was in the early stages of developing his jumper. But he forced himself to take 1-2 every game and eventually got over it and became a solid jump-shooter in time.

That is Simmons' issue. He is not brave enough to take the shots he is working on in practice during games. He doesn't have the confidence in himself.

That (confidence to experiment during games) rather than a lack of work ethic to develop a jump-shot or an arrogance of belief that he doesn't need a jump-shot.

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Sixers are 5th in the East, but they are still on a 52 win pace, which is actually better than last year.  They are also only 0.5 games behind Toronto for the 4th seed, though are just 0.5 games ahead of Indiana for 6th.  Now I'm sure they'd rather not have to play Milwaukee in the semi's, but I don't think any other team really scares them in the playoffs.  And that is really all that matters for the Sixers.  As long as they are healthy for the playoffs, I don't think they really care about seeding all that much other than trying to avoid the Bucks as long as possible.  And it is the playoffs from which the Sixers will be judged.

I really found this to be a hilarious post. For one, Brett Brown is currently furious with their play and 5th place standing (probably 6th after tonight) and how they can't just turn it around in playoffs “I definitely see it out of them, and it is not acceptable,” Brown said. “I completely sort of coach and live life thinking that good things add up and you don’t just click your heels and April 14 is here.”

Here is Brown expressing his frustration after their recent loss and failed rally against Orlando “I don’t believe we should have been in that position and I think it’s hollow praise to go there. I’m not going there. It’s a physicality issue that we lost and in fact, it will probably end up serving us well. It was a playoff-type of movement as far as the physical side of it and I thought that we responded with a D-.”

Here is Richardson complaining about their issues as a team "“I don’t think there there’s enough accountability in our locker room right now, honestly,” he said. “I think that we got some new guys, who don’t want to step on toes, including myself. I feel like we kind of go play and don’t compete as much.”

Then you have Embid calling out Simmons to the press. We were all losing our mind when Irving was doing this to other players last year (and it was worth doing over because it was the first signs of our implosion despite a relatively gaudy record.

Perhaps, the part I find the most humorous about your post is you are acting like homecourt is irrelevant for a team that is 16-2 at home and 7-10 on the road. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. lol

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Well somebody has to shoot on the sixers because we sure know Simmons won't :-)