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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2019, 11:41:10 PM »

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At this point I doubt the validity of the article....if it was a podcast with Jaylen's voice AND Scoop then it would be more believable.

My guess is some dude that's visited the blog and would love to see another 50 page thread.

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2019, 11:57:44 PM »

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Would rather he didn’t say anything about this

I agree Gouk. What does this accomplish ? We have a team with a complete turnaround in chemistry and Brown wants to stir up drama ? What, is he bored by the lack of team conflict this season ?

I was hoping to watch Brown and Tatum lead the Celtics to a few titles during the next 8+ years - both have been a bit of a disappointment in their own way. In one of the biggest games of this season so far vs Philly they both came up empty - they cost us the game. Does Brown always stand around watching like he did in that game ? He was not closing out hard on 3-point shooters. Is he mad because he is not getting his "touches" ?
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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2019, 01:25:00 AM »

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I mean, he's not wrong but he's not right either LOL

He's not wrong in the sense that it was Brad Stevens, Danny Ainge's fault for that crapshow last year.
He's also not right about Kyrie not having any fault, but clearly Kyrie was one of the biggest culprits last year.


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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2019, 01:35:57 AM »

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There was a Celtic who said it's not one person's fault (I think it was Smart). Let's just say it was kind of a perfect storm.

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2019, 05:37:22 AM »

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I don't have a sub to Daily News, can someone kindly post the full article?
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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2019, 06:14:40 AM »

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I've never heard of "Scoop B Robinson" so I have no idea if this is an actual reporter reporting actual quotes or just some joker who writes for a website I've never heard of "Heavy.com" making stuff up for clicks.

What I AM sure of is that the sentiment that the coaching staff and front office bumbled away a potential championship run last season is fair.  You had a superstar playing at a superstar level and a bunch of young lottery picks and solid vets who were a quarter away from playing in the NBA finals the previous season. 

Did Brown really criticize his coaches and front office?  Probably not (or not to the level that's portrayed in the article), but realistically the Celtics tried to have like 9 guys who all thought they were starters on the same team and that's objectively stupid.

Dumber still, even though it was obvious it wouldn't work after the first week of practice, they stubbornly took that same broken team all the way into a second round playoff collapse with no changes.

I don't blame Scoop B Robinson for pretending Jaylen Brown said what is probably something Kyrie Irving actually said in passing.  I'm just glad someone said it.

So funny you post this...

I decided to do a basic "search" of Scoop B Robinson on Google and this is what I found.

Everyone here can check and decide for themselves, lol.......

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=-jz4XfKADpGf_QbjnqT4CA&q=brandon+scoop+b+robinson+kevin+durant&oq=Scoop+B+Robinson&gs_l=psy-ab.1.4.0j0i22i30l4.3087.3087..15851...0.0..0.89.89.1......0....2j1..gws-wiz.SpXBIo-Hxr8

At first glance dude appears tied to some dead and untrue "Kevin Durant to the Lakers" posts.....

It DOES - in fact - bring up the validity factor in all of this.

Of course the NBA media would love to see the Kyrie Narrative kicked around as much as possible.

TP for the research!

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2019, 08:09:47 AM »

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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2019, 08:52:42 AM »

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Class move by Jaylen Brown.

I will forever miss the good times with Kyrie.

He IS in a better place. There is no place like home.

Additionally - Coach Stevens has ALREADY mentioned fault along these lines as well as Danny.

The unfortunate narrative is that Kyrie takes sole blame and that is not right.

Sure, Brad and Danny fell on their swords.  That's different than Jaylen, who is pointing at them.  Maybe he should also be pointing at himself as well.

In any event, I'm of the Mike Gorman school:  85% on Kyrie.

Mike Gorman is also an employee of the Celtics, so I wouldn't expect him to criticize anyone other than someone who is no longer a Celtic.

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2019, 08:55:22 AM »

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I support Jaylen 100% for saying this because it's true!!

Just like it's true that this year, we have (yet again) a million small forwards with no roster balance, no bench and Brad Stevens continuously getting outcoached by other coaches.

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2019, 08:58:31 AM »

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Would rather he didn’t say anything about this

I agree Gouk. What does this accomplish ? We have a team with a complete turnaround in chemistry and Brown wants to stir up drama ? What, is he bored by the lack of team conflict this season ?

I was hoping to watch Brown and Tatum lead the Celtics to a few titles during the next 8+ years - both have been a bit of a disappointment in their own way. In one of the biggest games of this season so far vs Philly they both came up empty - they cost us the game. Does Brown always stand around watching like he did in that game ? He was not closing out hard on 3-point shooters. Is he mad because he is not getting his "touches" ?

Quite possibly. There's no way Brown, Hayward and Tatum are ALL going to be with the team for the long-haul. Something will have to give.

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2019, 09:18:07 AM »

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I think at this point the front office is urging players to blame them and not individual players for last season.

At the end of the day we want to attract superstar level talent and the only way to salvage the Kyrie debacle is to admit fault and not blame. If after Kyrie left all we did as an organization was blame him, no superstar will ever want to come here. NBA players are soft and sensitive these days.

I think deep down everyone knows who the problem was despite what Ainge/Tatume/Stevens/Smart and Brown says.

Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2019, 09:23:54 AM »

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I mean, he's not wrong but he's not right either LOL

He's not wrong in the sense that it was Brad Stevens, Danny Ainge's fault for that crapshow last year.
He's also not right about Kyrie not having any fault, but clearly Kyrie was one of the biggest culprits last year.

I agree with all of this. Jaylen still should have been less candid, or talked about how everyone could have shown less ego and more leadership.


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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2019, 09:44:47 AM »

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At this point I doubt the validity of the article....if it was a podcast with Jaylen's voice AND Scoop then it would be more believable.

My guess is some dude that's visited the blog and would love to see another 50 page thread.
You think someone published a completely fabricated article that has several quoted questions and answers?  I mean really.  This isn't the type of thing you can just make up and get away.

I mean you really think this is made up.

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Brandon ‘Scoop B’ Robinson: People have often said and made narratives about Kyrie being toxic. I don’t think that’s true, what do you say to people who question his heart and his ability to play the game of basketball?

 Jaylen Brown: Everybody is going to have their own opinion. I don’t think Kyrie cares too much, maybe he does, and maybe he [Kyrie] shouldn’t care as much as he does. He’s Kyrie Irving at the end of the day … nobody is perfect. Kyrie got a lot of the blame and was undeserving. It wasn’t his fault that certain guys couldn’t take a step back. It wasn’t his fault. That was the front office and the coach’s fault. He gets a lot of that blame because he was the star. But a lot of that should be on the organization and coaching staff. It’s in the past. Kyrie is in a better place in Brooklyn, somewhere his roots are. He’ll be fine.
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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2019, 09:46:32 AM »

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Someone just raised his hand to be traded for the Center we desperately need.

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Re: Jaylen Brown: Last Year Was Fault of Coaches and Front Office, Not Kyrie
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2019, 10:07:28 AM »

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This is very...odd.

I love Jaylen, but time to move on. I have no idea why on earth he would say anything - especially casting blame on Danny and Brad.

I guess we'll be looking at a lot more 'trade Jaylen' threads once the season is over and he is eligible to be dealt.

Every Celtic who gives any interview with the media is asked about it, so what is he supposed to do?  This is much more moving on than most anything else he could say.

If we want Jaylen to move on then we need to not click stories that have “Celtic X said [this] about Kyrie.”  Then the media will stop acting questions.  I’m sure Jaylen is tired of hearing them.

I agree.  A lot of the crap we read is because players in all sports are just trying to answer a question.  But, if Jaylen is as smart as he thinks he is, he should have had a better answer.  Instead of throwing anybody under the bus and burning any bridges he should simply say "That's last year, I'm moving on".  Or as BB likes to say "on to Dallas".