Dario Saric for The Bucks pick, would you do it?

[Jvalin]

I'd say Dario Saric rental is worth about exactly a #30 overall pick right now

Wouldn't do it for a half season rental to be honest. At the end of the day, Saric wouldn't move the needle for the C's. Why sacrifice an asset, unless we plan to match offers for him next summer?

Btw, any ideas on how much it would take to keep Saric next summer? How much would you guys feel comfortable paying him?

[liam]

From The Ringer: "The same line of thinking applies to Phoenix: It could utilize Love next to Deandre Ayton or Aron Baynes, or without either of the centers. Both Devin Booker and Ricky Rubio would benefit from Love’s shooting, which is a huge upgrade over the team’s current floor-spacing big, Frank Kaminsky. The Suns could build an appealing trade package using some combination of their expiring contracts (Kaminsky and Tyler Johnson), young players (Dario Saric and Cam Johnson), and all of their future first-round picks. The Suns are the league’s biggest surprise team; now will they do everything possible to make the playoffs?"

Maybe the Cavs want a pick instead of Saric and The Celtics can spare one....

The Ringer:

"What 2020 Draft Picks Can Buy You
Late first-round picks or early second-round picks in the 2020 draft are valuable pieces of ammo in deals for nonstars. In addition to the Rockets, the following have been cited as teams that could trade 2020 draft picks:

Milwaukee Bucks: Indiana’s first-round pick (currently slotted at no. 20 overall)
Toronto Raptors: Own first-round pick (no. 23)
Los Angeles Clippers: Own first-round pick (no. 26)
Boston Celtics: Own first-round pick (no. 28) and Milwaukee’s first-round pick (no. 29)
Philadelphia 76ers: New York’s (no. 31) and Atlanta’s second-round picks (no. 35)
Dallas Mavericks: Golden State’s second-round pick (no. 32)"

[Monkhouse]

Is Saric even good? Never really seen much of him.

[liam]

Is Saric even good? Never really seen much of him.

He's good but I think he'd be better under Brad Stevens. Saric is averaging 11.3 points, 7.3 rebounds and 2.0 assists per game and shooting  .435/.345/.854, in 28 minutes per game. the .43 FGP is not good but the .34 TPP is decent for a big.

[Moranis]

I'd say Dario Saric rental is worth about exactly a #30 overall pick right now

Wouldn't do it for a half season rental to be honest. At the end of the day, Saric wouldn't move the needle for the C's. Why sacrifice an asset, unless we plan to match offers for him next summer?

Btw, any ideas on how much it would take to keep Saric next summer? How much would you guys feel comfortable paying him?

I have a hard time calling the 29th/30th pick an asset.  And we know that pick is going to transfer this summer and be in the late 20's or 30 since we can see how good Milwaukee currently is (unless of course you think Giannis is going to get hurt and miss the rest of the year). 

Saric is the exact type of player that Boston should be looking to acquire, especially if it really believes it has a chance to make it out of the East.  Saric is still relatively young, he is cheap, he doesn't tie you down long term but you have his rights over the summer, he produces fairly well, and he plays a position of team weakness.  Of course it is all of those reasons why Phoenix isn't trading him for a very late 1st round pick.  They also got Saric to move back from 6 to 11, I'd say dropping back 5 spots in the lottery is worth a lot more than the 30th pick and a GLeauger.  Phoenix might be willing to trade Saric, but it is going to take a lot more than the 30th pick to get it done. 

[liam]

I'd say Dario Saric rental is worth about exactly a #30 overall pick right now

Wouldn't do it for a half season rental to be honest. At the end of the day, Saric wouldn't move the needle for the C's. Why sacrifice an asset, unless we plan to match offers for him next summer?

Btw, any ideas on how much it would take to keep Saric next summer? How much would you guys feel comfortable paying him?

I have a hard time calling the 29th/30th pick an asset.  And we know that pick is going to transfer this summer and be in the late 20's or 30 since we can see how good Milwaukee currently is (unless of course you think Giannis is going to get hurt and miss the rest of the year). 

Saric is the exact type of player that Boston should be looking to acquire, especially if it really believes it has a chance to make it out of the East.  Saric is still relatively young, he is cheap, he doesn't tie you down long term but you have his rights over the summer, he produces fairly well, and he plays a position of team weakness.  Of course it is all of those reasons why Phoenix isn't trading him for a very late 1st round pick.  They also got Saric to move back from 6 to 11, I'd say dropping back 5 spots in the lottery is worth a lot more than the 30th pick and a GLeauger.  Phoenix might be willing to trade Saric, but it is going to take a lot more than the 30th pick to get it done.

I agree that a trade by the Suns at the moment is highly unlikely, unless there is a bigger trade for Love and Boston can get in on a three way trade between the Cavs and the Suns. The Celtics could throw a first and maybe a second at the Cavs and receive Saric.

[nickagneta]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

[celticsclay]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

I like it Nick.

[bopna]

Another 3. Redundant he will be so... Its a no for me.

[liam]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

Well though out.

TP

[Moranis]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

I really don't get why the Suns would want Love.  He is better than Saric, but I'm not sure he is that much better especially factoring in the injury concerns (nevertheless that contract).  I also don't think a Love/Ayton front court for the next 3.5 seasons makes a whole lot of sense.  If Love was a short term contract or small dollar contract, then sure might be worth the risk for the Suns, but I don't see them going after Love. 

Now maybe Love to Denver with Millsap going to the Suns and something like that Saric/Johnson package going to Cleveland might make sense.  That seemingly makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

[liam]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

I really don't get why the Suns would want Love.  He is better than Saric, but I'm not sure he is that much better especially factoring in the injury concerns (nevertheless that contract).  I also don't think a Love/Ayton front court for the next 3.5 seasons makes a whole lot of sense.  If Love was a short term contract or small dollar contract, then sure might be worth the risk for the Suns, but I don't see them going after Love. 

Now maybe Love to Denver with Millsap going to the Suns and something like that Saric/Johnson package going to Cleveland might make sense.  That seemingly makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

The Suns aren't signing any top flight free agents any time soon so they'd have to acquire one though a trade. LOve would get people in the sits and he'd help spread the floor for Booker. Love?Ayton is a good fit offensively but not defensively. I do like a Baynes/Love fit.

[jambr380]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

I really don't get why the Suns would want Love.  He is better than Saric, but I'm not sure he is that much better especially factoring in the injury concerns (nevertheless that contract).  I also don't think a Love/Ayton front court for the next 3.5 seasons makes a whole lot of sense.  If Love was a short term contract or small dollar contract, then sure might be worth the risk for the Suns, but I don't see them going after Love. 

Now maybe Love to Denver with Millsap going to the Suns and something like that Saric/Johnson package going to Cleveland might make sense.  That seemingly makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

The Suns aren't signing any top flight free agents any time soon so they'd have to acquire one though a trade. LOve would get people in the sits and he'd help spread the floor for Booker. Love/Ayton is a good fit offensively but not defensively. I do like a Baynes/Love fit.

Well, then, I would be happy to take Ayton off their hands. Same deal - MIL pick and matching contract(s). I am sure they would happily go for that with the emergence of Baynes 

[liam]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

I really don't get why the Suns would want Love.  He is better than Saric, but I'm not sure he is that much better especially factoring in the injury concerns (nevertheless that contract).  I also don't think a Love/Ayton front court for the next 3.5 seasons makes a whole lot of sense.  If Love was a short term contract or small dollar contract, then sure might be worth the risk for the Suns, but I don't see them going after Love. 

Now maybe Love to Denver with Millsap going to the Suns and something like that Saric/Johnson package going to Cleveland might make sense.  That seemingly makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

The Suns aren't signing any top flight free agents any time soon so they'd have to acquire one though a trade. LOve would get people in the sits and he'd help spread the floor for Booker. Love/Ayton is a good fit offensively but not defensively. I do like a Baynes/Love fit.

Well, then, I would be happy to take Ayton off their hands. Same deal - MIL pick and matching contract(s). I am sure they would happily go for that with the emergence of Baynes 

Yeah, same thing...

[Moranis]

The only way I see Saric coming to Boston would be as a 3 team deal.

Boston in: Saric
Boston out: Piece(s) to match and picks

Suns out: Saric, Tyler Johnson, another body to match salaries, Sun pick
Suns in: Kevin Love

Cleveland out: Love
Cleveland in: Celtic pieces, Celtic picks, Tyler Johnson, Suns pick and Suns other body to match salaries.

That's just quick. Probably need to adjust a bit but that's an example of a 3 way that makes sense for everyone.

I really don't get why the Suns would want Love.  He is better than Saric, but I'm not sure he is that much better especially factoring in the injury concerns (nevertheless that contract).  I also don't think a Love/Ayton front court for the next 3.5 seasons makes a whole lot of sense.  If Love was a short term contract or small dollar contract, then sure might be worth the risk for the Suns, but I don't see them going after Love. 

Now maybe Love to Denver with Millsap going to the Suns and something like that Saric/Johnson package going to Cleveland might make sense.  That seemingly makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

The Suns aren't signing any top flight free agents any time soon so they'd have to acquire one though a trade. LOve would get people in the sits and he'd help spread the floor for Booker. Love?Ayton is a good fit offensively but not defensively. I do like a Baynes/Love fit.

Love isn't a top flight free agent anymore.  He is a good player, but he is overpaid, he is injury prone, and he is on the wrong side of 30.  It simply doesn't make sense for the Suns to use their future cap space on Love.  If he was expiring this year or next year, I think acquiring him would make a lot more sense for the Suns as he could provide a steadying veteran presence without killing their cap. 

Remember cap room isn't just about free agents, it can be used as a dumping ground for teams wanting to create more room, and more importantly allows room to keep all of the young players that they need/want to keep.  In the 22-23 season they would have Booker, Love, and Ayton (presumably) all on max contracts.  They will have had to make decisions on Saric, Oubre, Kaminsky, Bridges, and Rubio as well and anyone else they sign along the way (as well as guys like Baynes).  Love just doesn't make sense for the Suns.  The Suns have historically been a terrible franchise though, so maybe the do have eyes for Love, I just don't think he makes sense for them.  Love absolutely makes sense for Portland and Denver, the two other teams mentioned for him.  Those two teams are in different situations than the Suns.