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Celtics needs bench help badly!!
« on: November 28, 2019, 08:45:56 AM »

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I love this team big time and very fun to watch but as we all know, we need some help on the bench..
Like the 3 headed centers in Katner, Theis and Timelord but they not someone who can take over a game down low when u need it the most
TimeLord looks lost most of the time and still mad they didnt get Mitchell Robinson
Wannamaker is ok but nothing flashy
I might be only one on this site but the 4 picks we got this season are awful and i didnt like the picks then and still dont like it now..
Romeo cant stay healthy, Grant is nothing more than a end bench guy, Carsen just a spot shooter who cant pass or defend and Waters just too small
French guy just looks lost and Semi is just average
So if we going go far, we need some bench help badly esp scoring
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2019, 09:02:45 AM »

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I said before the season the bench was weak and the inexperience worried me. But, with a healthy club with Theis starting the rotational bench of:

Smart
Wanamaker
Timelord
Kanter
Semi

Has ended up being extremely solid. Nothing spectacular and yes, it lacks someone with an offensive punch, but Stevens has been trying to keep two scorers on the floor at all times to mitigate that problem, so when healthy, I am not sure it is a problem, especially since the team has a decent offensive hierarchy of:

Kemba and Hayward
Then Jayson and Jaylen
Then Smart and the center on the floor
Then everyone else.

Haven't been crazy about how Edwards and Grant Williams have played and will reserve judgment on Langford and Waters until I see them play 15-20 games for the club.

Re: Celtics needs bench help badly!!
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2019, 09:08:36 AM »

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There's plenty of time left.

If the Celts continue to play well then there's no need to mess it up.

Earlier in the season I wanted Tristan Thompson.
But it's looking like Theis, RWill, and Kanter are good enough.

So unless opportunity that Ainge can't pass up presents itself, it's best if the Celts wait until January or February to make a move.

Right now Celts are on pace to win 60 games.

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2019, 09:14:13 AM »

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If someone is out for awhile with an injury or foul troubles during a game, we just dont no one on the bench to step up in scoring..I just dont see Smart shooting the way he has and Brown has up and down in games
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2019, 09:19:50 AM »

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ideally, GWill and Edwards start finding the mark consistently where they can be relied on scoring double digits if getting extended minutes.  if that happens, I think we're just fine.  Green can also provide an offensive spark.

what I'm more concerned with is a legit-sized PF off the bench

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2019, 09:22:28 AM »

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If someone is out for awhile with an injury or foul troubles during a game, we just dont no one on the bench to step up in scoring..I just dont see Smart shooting the way he has and Brown has up and down in games

Celts didn't have Kemba and Hayward against the Kings and the Celts still won.

Right now the Celts are still on pace to win 60 games.

I think Ainge will not hesitate to upgrade the bench if an opportunity presents itself.
But right now it's too early in the season to make changes.


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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2019, 09:27:21 AM »

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ideally, GWill and Edwards start finding the mark consistently where they can be relied on scoring double digits if getting extended minutes.  if that happens, I think we're just fine.  Green can also provide an offensive spark.

what I'm more concerned with is a legit-sized PF off the bench

With the cap situation of the Celts right now, that's very hard to find.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2019, 09:36:09 AM »

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Cap space is going be hard to find someone for sure..dont know who is out there or who may be buyout
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2019, 09:41:37 AM »

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I said before the season the bench was weak and the inexperience worried me. But, with a healthy club with Theis starting the rotational bench of:

Smart
Wanamaker
Timelord
Kanter
Semi

Has ended up being extremely solid. Nothing spectacular and yes, it lacks someone with an offensive punch, but Stevens has been trying to keep two scorers on the floor at all times to mitigate that problem, so when healthy, I am not sure it is a problem, especially since the team has a decent offensive hierarchy of:

Kemba and Hayward
Then Jayson and Jaylen
Then Smart and the center on the floor
Then everyone else.

Haven't been crazy about how Edwards and Grant Williams have played and will reserve judgment on Langford and Waters until I see them play 15-20 games for the club.

I agree.

Last season problem was "too good of a bench", then no one knew their place.  No hierarchy. 
Now everyone know their place.  That's the way it should be.

...you bring a guy like Jamal Crawford here; then you have to take minutes from Smart, Jaylen, Tatum and Hayward; and then you start getting into chemistry issues, etc.

Wanamaker isn't flashy, but he knows his place in the rotation and he is happy with it, and gives you good minutes - for  the most part.

When healthy, this team should be able to have three scoring threats on the floor at all times.  That is title contender stuff...




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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2019, 09:43:31 AM »

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I think once Gordon comes back this will fix itself somewhat.   We will have more good talent in the game when the bench comes in.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2019, 09:44:54 AM »

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I said before the season the bench was weak and the inexperience worried me. But, with a healthy club with Theis starting the rotational bench of:

Smart
Wanamaker
Timelord
Kanter
Semi

Has ended up being extremely solid. Nothing spectacular and yes, it lacks someone with an offensive punch, but Stevens has been trying to keep two scorers on the floor at all times to mitigate that problem, so when healthy, I am not sure it is a problem, especially since the team has a decent offensive hierarchy of:

Kemba and Hayward
Then Jayson and Jaylen
Then Smart and the center on the floor
Then everyone else.

Haven't been crazy about how Edwards and Grant Williams have played and will reserve judgment on Langford and Waters until I see them play 15-20 games for the club.
TP for the good post.  The bench may be weak for the regular season, but not necessarily for the playoffs where you only really need 3 bench players (4 at most depending on the coaching style) who can step in like starters.  Personally, I would start Kanter which means my 3 key bench players are Theis, Smart and RWIII.  Wanamaker and Semi are good for a couple of spot minutes as #9 rotation players but I admit that's a bit weak in the playoffs.

As far as the rookies: Langford, Edwards, GWill, Poirier...not sure what anyone can expect from them, but I certainly would not make a trade because they have not played like experienced pros.

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2019, 09:54:18 AM »

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Totally disagree here. Stevens distributing his starting scorers across the whole game is a major improvement in shot distribution. If anything, we still aren't getting Brown enough shots even now, and Hayward will be back around Christmas. We have size, athleticism and lots of defense on the bench and those rookies are tough players who will figure it out if you give them time to do so.

This is the best group we've had since Pierce and Garnett left town, and it has a lot of room for improvement without any changes. I think we have as good a chance as anyone to win the East.

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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2019, 09:56:56 AM »

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1.) Williams will absolutely, positively be better than Mitchell Robinson; he's 22 freaking years old;
2.) Nothing like giving up on rookies a month into their first season!

I agree that the bench definitely needs help for THIS year, but giving up on the young guys this early into their career is beyond ridiculous.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2019, 09:59:37 AM »

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If someone is out for awhile with an injury or foul troubles during a game, we just dont no one on the bench to step up in scoring..I just dont see Smart shooting the way he has and Brown has up and down in games
Smart is shooting 34.8 percent from three this year. He shot 36.4 percent last year. So, he is likely to shoot BETTER the rest of the way.

Your overall point is not wrong; we need help on the bench, but there are so many things wrong with the way you are stating your argument.

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2019, 10:09:35 AM »

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So obviously Hayward will help the bench by pushing a starter down.  The rest is about not understanding that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. 

Last year everyone thought the bench would be great because they thought we have a bunch of starter talents.  I didn’t like the bench from the start because it had a bunch of me first guys that were inefficient shooters that didn’t pass the ball.

This year perceived talent may be done but pieces fit better.  As for the center, who in the world needs a closer when you have kemba, Hayward, Tatum, brown, and smart?
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