Jusuf Nurkic: trade target idea

[Humble G]

I know he has been mentioned before somewhere....but what would it take to get him possibly? Would he be a good fit?


http://tradenba.com/trades/Hkiu0oY3S

POR gets KLove and Theiss

CLE gets Bazemore, Kanter, and memphi pick

BOS gets Nurkic?

[JBcat]

I’m not easily giving up the Memphis pick unless it’s in a deal for a bonafide star.

[ETNCeltics]

A big slow 5 doesn't fit with our team. IMO, he's a nice player, but ultimately wouldn't add much to what we are now.

[liam]

A big slow 5 doesn't fit with our team. IMO, he's a nice player, but ultimately wouldn't add much to what we are now.

Agreed and how many minutes has Nurkic even played in the last three years?

[nickagneta]

Okay, first, he still isn't recovered from that horrific leg break and his return is expected in February after the All-Star break.....hopefully. Portland is being pretty vague.

Then you have to deal with him playing his way back to shape both physically and mentally. AND.....we know here in Boston that could take an entire season. The Celtics might not see consistent positive contributions from him until the end of next season. By that time, Robert Williams will be this team's starting center.

So the Celtics would have had to trade Theis, an excellent defender and great value at just $5 million a year, Kanter and most likely, a lottery pick, one that has a possibility, right now, of being a #1 pick in 2021 if Memphis sucks and the lottery gods are good(worst case, that pick is a late lotto selection) for a guy that might give us nothing this year and a year of struggles coming back from injury next year.

Yeah, Danny isn't doing this. No way.

[Humble G]

Okay, first, he still isn't recovered from that horrific leg break and his return is expected in February after the All-Star break.....hopefully. Portland is being pretty vague.

Then you have to deal with him playing his way back to shape both physically and mentally. AND.....we know here in Boston that could take an entire season. The Celtics might not see consistent positive contributions from him until the end of next season. By that time, Robert Williams will be this team's starting center.

So the Celtics would have had to trade Theis, an excellent defender and great value at just $5 million a year, Kanter and most likely, a lottery pick, one that has a possibility, right now, of being a #1 pick in 2021 if Memphis sucks and the lottery gods are good(worst case, that pick is a late lotto selection) for a guy that might give us nothing this year and a year of struggles coming back from injury next year.

Yeah, Danny isn't doing this. No way.

I'm not as high on robert williams as everyone else, I don't see him becoming a quality starter. And I also don't think that memphis pick is going to be that high, late lotto.

A big slow 5 doesn't fit with our team. IMO, he's a nice player, but ultimately wouldn't add much to what we are now.

A big slow 5 doesn't fit with our team. IMO, he's a nice player, but ultimately wouldn't add much to what we are now.

Agreed and how many minutes has Nurkic even played in the last three years?

He played 72 games last year and 79 the year before at about 27mins a game and played 65 games in 2016/17 playing about 21 mins....

The guy is young can score, rebound,  block, and is a big that plays good defense and could possibly keep his own against embiid??

[RPGenerate]

Slow, plodding big men don't fit our defensive system. Period. It's the reason Kanter is getting limited minutes, while Theis is starting.

[liam]

A big slow 5 doesn't fit with our team. IMO, he's a nice player, but ultimately wouldn't add much to what we are now.

Agreed and how many minutes has Nurkic even played in the last three years?

He played 72 games last year and 79 the year before at about 27mins a game and played 65 games in 2016/17 playing about 21 mins....

The guy can score, rebound, and is a big that plays pretty good defense and could possibly keep his own against embiid??

Oh, good point. I thought he was injured way more than that.

[seancally]

I love Nurkic and think he would be a great addition. That's assuming he recovers to full strength or better, and of course that's an open question. That said, I don't think it's the move, as others here have noted. Our big rotation is actually doing fine - maybe we aren't a great matchup with Embiid, but we did pretty well with Jokic, another premier big. Then given the timing I don't think Nurkic is a significant plus for this season, if he comes back at all. So then, OK, is he our big of the future? Is he a certain upgrade over Williams' development, over Theis's solid play? Is he better than what we could draft in the lottery? Not sure.

[nickagneta]

Okay, first, he still isn't recovered from that horrific leg break and his return is expected in February after the All-Star break.....hopefully. Portland is being pretty vague.

Then you have to deal with him playing his way back to shape both physically and mentally. AND.....we know here in Boston that could take an entire season. The Celtics might not see consistent positive contributions from him until the end of next season. By that time, Robert Williams will be this team's starting center.

So the Celtics would have had to trade Theis, an excellent defender and great value at just $5 million a year, Kanter and most likely, a lottery pick, one that has a possibility, right now, of being a #1 pick in 2021 if Memphis sucks and the lottery gods are good(worst case, that pick is a late lotto selection) for a guy that might give us nothing this year and a year of struggles coming back from injury next year.

Yeah, Danny isn't doing this. No way.

I'm not as high on robert williams as everyone else, I don't see him becoming a quality starter. And I also don't think that memphis pick is going to be that high, late lotto.

Memphis isn't making the playoffs this year. And they probably aren't the worst team in the league. Memphis only keeps the pick if after the lottery they have a top 6 pick and are only guaranteed to keep the pick if they are the league's worst team in the regular season. If the pick conveys this year, it's a mid to late lotto pick.

For it not to be a late lotto or better in 2021, Memphis needs to be a playoff team. My guess is that isn't happening out West. Not that soon in a rebuild. Not in that stacked conference.

So your belief that the Memphis pick won't be as high as a late lotto or better is looking like a seriously bad bet. And because of that, this is not a good trade. Not close.

And yes, Timelord may not be a quality starter by next year, but he is this team's future at that position. Bank on that.

[Humble G]

Sorry for confusion bout Memphis pick. I think it will be a late lotto but thats it. I meant I don't think it will be any better than that.

But after thinking more the real reason this won't happen is trade deadline won't give enough time to see nurkic health wise.


I hope Timelord does become a quality starter but not convinced yet.


*sorry for not thinking this through more, was bored showing the same movie for the 5th time at school and decided to look into big man trades lol

[PAOBoston]

 

Okay, first, he still isn't recovered from that horrific leg break and his return is expected in February after the All-Star break.....hopefully. Portland is being pretty vague.

Then you have to deal with him playing his way back to shape both physically and mentally. AND.....we know here in Boston that could take an entire season. The Celtics might not see consistent positive contributions from him until the end of next season. By that time, Robert Williams will be this team's starting center.

So the Celtics would have had to trade Theis, an excellent defender and great value at just $5 million a year, Kanter and most likely, a lottery pick, one that has a possibility, right now, of being a #1 pick in 2021 if Memphis sucks and the lottery gods are good(worst case, that pick is a late lotto selection) for a guy that might give us nothing this year and a year of struggles coming back from injury next year.

Yeah, Danny isn't doing this. No way.

If Williams is starting for the Cs next year, I don’t think that is a great thing tbh. I don't see him as a starter. I think he can be a good role player off the bench but I don’t think he has great bbiq. He gets blocks. That’s pretty much.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Okay, first, he still isn't recovered from that horrific leg break and his return is expected in February after the All-Star break.....hopefully. Portland is being pretty vague.

Then you have to deal with him playing his way back to shape both physically and mentally. AND.....we know here in Boston that could take an entire season. The Celtics might not see consistent positive contributions from him until the end of next season. By that time, Robert Williams will be this team's starting center.

So the Celtics would have had to trade Theis, an excellent defender and great value at just $5 million a year, Kanter and most likely, a lottery pick, one that has a possibility, right now, of being a #1 pick in 2021 if Memphis sucks and the lottery gods are good(worst case, that pick is a late lotto selection) for a guy that might give us nothing this year and a year of struggles coming back from injury next year.

Yeah, Danny isn't doing this. No way.

If Williams is starting for the Cs next year, I don’t think that is a great thing tbh. I don't see him as a starter. I think he can be a good role player off the bench but I don’t think he has great bbiq. He gets blocks. That’s pretty much.

He gets steals too. And assists. And rebounds. And dunks.

[ETNCeltics]

Okay, first, he still isn't recovered from that horrific leg break and his return is expected in February after the All-Star break.....hopefully. Portland is being pretty vague.

Then you have to deal with him playing his way back to shape both physically and mentally. AND.....we know here in Boston that could take an entire season. The Celtics might not see consistent positive contributions from him until the end of next season. By that time, Robert Williams will be this team's starting center.

So the Celtics would have had to trade Theis, an excellent defender and great value at just $5 million a year, Kanter and most likely, a lottery pick, one that has a possibility, right now, of being a #1 pick in 2021 if Memphis sucks and the lottery gods are good(worst case, that pick is a late lotto selection) for a guy that might give us nothing this year and a year of struggles coming back from injury next year.

Yeah, Danny isn't doing this. No way.

If Williams is starting for the Cs next year, I don’t think that is a great thing tbh. I don't see him as a starter. I think he can be a good role player off the bench but I don’t think he has great bbiq. He gets blocks. That’s pretty much.

He has made a # of nice passes. That indicates he has some vision. I'm hopeful, though not exactly confident.

[Smartacus]

Love Nurkic. He's actually very light on his feet, certainly not the ideal pick and roll defender but makes up for it with his size around the rim. He's a good passer and run's a great pick and roll with Dame. He can take over for stretches and is pretty good about not forcing bad shots.

Problem is I will never trust his health so that's a hard pass. He's like Boogie. All the talent in the world but the same thing that makes him great is the same thing that outs strain on his extremities. He is simply too big to play as fast as he does and a player his size will have probably have problems staying in shape while rehabbing.

I'll be happy routing for him from afar but I don't want him tied to Boston. Portland has always been my west coast Celtics anyways.