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2022
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37 (52.1%)
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Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2019, 03:50:57 AM »

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Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2019, 08:11:11 AM »

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I voted sometime after 2022 but let's be real here - if Jaylen Brown can become a Poor Man's Kawhi then I think he is a perennial All-Star, IMO.

Kawhi Leonard has imposed his will on the NBA the last few years....he's proven that his MVP in SAS was NOT a fluke - even though he DID play with Tim Duncan that season.

Dude sits out the next season then goes to TOR. Did the same thing.

Looks like he could very well repeat in LAC.

Again - if Jaylen Brown becomes a Poor Man's Kawhi then I'd be happy with that. He has a BRIGHT future so who knows?

I'm just enjoying the ride.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2019, 09:05:45 AM »

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I voted sometime after 2022 but let's be real here - if Jaylen Brown can become a Poor Man's Kawhi then I think he is a perennial All-Star, IMO.

Kawhi Leonard has imposed his will on the NBA the last few years....he's proven that his MVP in SAS was NOT a fluke - even though he DID play with Tim Duncan that season.

Dude sits out the next season then goes to TOR. Did the same thing.

Looks like he could very well repeat in LAC.

Again - if Jaylen Brown becomes a Poor Man's Kawhi then I'd be happy with that. He has a BRIGHT future so who knows?

I'm just enjoying the ride.

I think Jaylen is a poor man's KL right now.
ok fine

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2019, 09:16:44 AM »

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I would say never, but then I already said that about him averaging 20 PPG this season (and he's right up there) so I'm not going to make the mistake of underestimating either of our "J-Boys" now lol

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2019, 09:47:53 AM »

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Better than the best player in the league?  Like someone said, it will happen when Kawhi starts getting old.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2019, 11:00:22 AM »

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It doesn’t appear that everyone is taking the question the same way.  If it’s when will Jaylen surpass Kawhi’s peak, that’s a very unfair expectation and there’s a 99.9% likelihood the answer is never since Kawhi is one of the best players of this generation.  However, I take it to mean in what year will Jaylen be the better player of the two (hypothetically when Jaylen is at his peak and Kawhi has started to decline).  With over 5 years separating them in age, I would expect it to be somewhere around when Jaylen is 28-29 and Kawhi is 33-34

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2019, 11:13:25 AM »

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I keep reading JB comparisons and while I have no idea if/when he will be better then Kawhi I feel that people are way underestimating this guy. Just a year ago he couldnt get a handle on the ball enough to complete a play. Now he's breaking ankles left and right and hitting the shots too.

Give him a couple more years and the player I see that he is most similar to is Kobe. I dont mean Kobe the chucker either. I mean Kobe the guy who is quite intelligent and also a tremendous athlete. JB is very similar to Kobe in atheletic ability too. There verticals are almost identical for one thing.

If JB starts becoming an elite shooter and is capable of taking the ball to the basket with authority he may become an all time great player. He has that potential!

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2019, 11:45:18 AM »

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I voted sometime after 2022 but let's be real here - if Jaylen Brown can become a Poor Man's Kawhi then I think he is a perennial All-Star, IMO.

Kawhi Leonard has imposed his will on the NBA the last few years....he's proven that his MVP in SAS was NOT a fluke - even though he DID play with Tim Duncan that season.

Dude sits out the next season then goes to TOR. Did the same thing.

Looks like he could very well repeat in LAC.

Again - if Jaylen Brown becomes a Poor Man's Kawhi then I'd be happy with that. He has a BRIGHT future so who knows?

I'm just enjoying the ride.

I think Jaylen is a poor man's KL right now.

a perennial all star but not an MVP, I'm fine with that, i mean Pierce was a perennial all star. Brown meshes so well with Tatum and Walker that I don't really think he needs to be a superstar while that'd be great imo.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2019, 12:03:44 PM »

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Jaylen needs to first realize that he's better than Jayson, before he takes on the alfa status of a Kawhi.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2019, 12:10:41 PM »

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Never, but as our friend Kyrie once paraphrased, Comparison is the thief of joy.

I choose not to compare, and enjoy Jaylen for who he is, a very talented guy who is dedicated to making himself the best Jaylen Brown.

well said.  this is where Im at.  and hopefully where Jaylen's at.  that would make three of us and we can start a movement :)

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2019, 12:11:43 PM »

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Jaylen needs to first realize that he's better than Jayson, before he takes on the alfa status of a Kawhi.

Agree.

Jaylen needs to be better than Jayson first.

But from what I've seen, Jaylen doesn't have the mentality of a superstar like Jayson.

At the age of 21, Jayson already has that mentality of wanting to take over a game and is not afraid of missing shots or committing a mistake.



Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2019, 12:18:37 PM »

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I voted sometime after 2022 but let's be real here - if Jaylen Brown can become a Poor Man's Kawhi then I think he is a perennial All-Star, IMO.

Kawhi Leonard has imposed his will on the NBA the last few years....he's proven that his MVP in SAS was NOT a fluke - even though he DID play with Tim Duncan that season.

Dude sits out the next season then goes to TOR. Did the same thing.

Looks like he could very well repeat in LAC.

Again - if Jaylen Brown becomes a Poor Man's Kawhi then I'd be happy with that. He has a BRIGHT future so who knows?

I'm just enjoying the ride.

I think Jaylen is a poor man's KL right now.

a perennial all star but not an MVP, I'm fine with that, i mean Pierce was a perennial all star. Brown meshes so well with Tatum and Walker that I don't really think he needs to be a superstar while that'd be great imo.

good point.  to reach the level of a Leonard or other stratospheric mega star, one has to go through stages.  And one of those stages is having the entire defense focused on stopping you.  Last year Kawhi was the clear #1 option for Toronto, and he still did what he did.  Then you know you're good when you can take virtually all the attention and still thrive.  To your bolded point, the longer Brown can fly under the radar and share the wealth, the better it will be for his overall success.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2019, 12:19:58 PM »

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Jaylen needs to first realize that he's better than Jayson, before he takes on the alfa status of a Kawhi.
If you ask Jaylen, I would guess he would say he is better than Tatum. His smaller usage than Jayson is more a product of how the two players are used by the coach. Maybe someone should tell the coach Jaylen is better than Tatum?

Personally, I think they are very even but that Jaylen is learning the pro game faster and is developing his offensive game faster than Jayson.

Either way, I am ecstatic to have both. It really looks like Ainge may have gotten two players that probably should have been drafted higher than #3, which is huge given the amount of teams that screw up top 3 picks.

As for the question, probably never, but given Brown's intelligence, athleticism, work ethic, talent and hunger to be the best, I wouldn't rule anything out.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2019, 12:20:47 PM »

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Jaylen needs to first realize that he's better than Jayson, before he takes on the alfa status of a Kawhi.

Agree.

Jaylen needs to be better than Jayson first.

But from what I've seen, Jaylen doesn't have the mentality of a superstar like Jayson.

At the age of 21, Jayson already has that mentality of wanting to take over a game and is not afraid of missing shots or committing a mistake.

Efficiency matters.  At this point Brown is more Leonard-like than Jayson, for his efficiency.  Not calling you wrong about the future.  But I think your post ignores something important. 

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2019, 12:33:58 PM »

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Jaylen needs to first realize that he's better than Jayson, before he takes on the alfa status of a Kawhi.

Agree.

Jaylen needs to be better than Jayson first.

But from what I've seen, Jaylen doesn't have the mentality of a superstar like Jayson.

At the age of 21, Jayson already has that mentality of wanting to take over a game and is not afraid of missing shots or committing a mistake.

Efficiency matters.  At this point Brown is more Leonard-like than Jayson, for his efficiency.  Not calling you wrong about the future.  But I think your post ignores something important.

I agree that Brown is more efficient.

The reason for that is Brown doesn't take a lot of difficult shots.

But CBS goes to Kemba and Tatum for game winning shots.
The coach sees the players everyday in practice.
There's a reason why the coach doesn't go to Jaylen for game winning shots.

Right now Jaylen is doing the right thing by not trying to do too much.

Jayson on the other hand is trying to play like a superstar.
He's asking for the ball to exploit a mismatches.
When the shot clock is winding down, he's not afraid to take the shot.
And he makes a lot of shots even when he's well defended.