Tatum and his contribution

[SCeltic34]

IMO the greatest aspect that will affect Tatum's trajectory and efficiency moving forward is his willingness and ability to play through contact.  One thing he's gotten better at this season is the swing-through fouls - like Pierce - but otherwise it's obvious that he's still a finesse player that shies away from contact, especially when he drives to the hoop.  It's the reason he still struggles to finish around the rim - he's still thinking about contact when he's driving and he's consciously avoiding it.

The package is there but it needs serious refining.  He still has the tendency to take too long to make decisions with the ball even though he's made strides by working on this during the offseason (I'd consider this significant progress from last season when he had regressed as a player by doing his best Kobe/Kyrie impressions).  He needs to get stronger, tighten his handle and dribble with his head up, and be willing to accept getting whacked on a regular basis.  If he doesn't he'll never achieve his full potential.

[mrceltics2013]

He’s not streaky he just can’t shoot!!! He had 1 good game y’all lol. We need to stop treating him like a star because he’s not.  Take aside from what you seen in the past, what has he done on offense?

[gouki88]

He’s not streaky he just can’t shoot!!! He had 1 good game y’all lol. We need to stop treating him like a star because he’s not.  Take aside from what you seen in the past, what has he done on offense?

If there was any evidence at all that supported what you've written it might be worth taking seriously

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

[Androslav]

Jayson is more talented than Jaylen, but JB is more efficient, productive and consistent.

[Vox_Populi]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

[nickagneta]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

What actually happens on the court is what I'm basing it on.

When was the last time Brad Stevens went to Jaylen Brown for the game winning shot?

We already saw Tatum get 3 opportunities to win the game for the Celts.

Last season Kyrie went on a tantrum after Hayward gave the last shot to Tatum.

This season Tatum already hit a game winning shot against the Knicks.

Against the Kings in Boston, Brad went to Tatum again.
But Tatum missed the shot.

Jaylen is more efficient this season because he's taking less bad shots compared to last season.

Tatum on the other hand is taking more shots and forcing more shots this season.
That's why Tatum is inefficient.

Right now Tatum is also in a slump.
Once he snaps out of it, Tatum will look like a superstar.

[Sophomore]

Jayson is more talented than Jaylen, but JB is more efficient, productive and consistent.

Jaylen is definitely more consistent and productive this year. If Tatum makes a leap like Jaylen did this year, look out world.

[coco]

 I think he's 4th at this time, sometimes 3rd.

Tatum offense is not efficient at this stage, but as long as he keeps taking it to the basket I am ok.

He shows flashes and it is encouraging but this is year 3, and usually year 3 is when you hit the fork on the road.  Last year was JB 3rd year, and towards the end of the season, you could tell something clicked and he made a leap.

Will see what direction Tatum takes. 

[td450]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

What actually happens on the court is what I'm basing it on.

When was the last time Brad Stevens went to Jaylen Brown for the game winning shot?

We already saw Tatum get 3 opportunities to win the game for the Celts.

Last season Kyrie went on a tantrum after Hayward gave the last shot to Tatum.

This season Tatum already hit a game winning shot against the Knicks.

Against the Kings in Boston, Brad went to Tatum again.
But Tatum missed the shot.

Jaylen is more efficient this season because he's taking less bad shots compared to last season.

Tatum on the other hand is taking more shots and forcing more shots this season.
That's why Tatum is inefficient.

Right now Tatum is also in a slump.
Once he snaps out of it, Tatum will look like a superstar.

I think Jaylen does need to be more involved in the 4th quarter. My guess is that a big part of it is his free throw shooting. That is improving, and as he piles up quality offensive games, this will change. I expect him to be a more dominant player by the end of the year. He has shown a pattern of getting better in-season.

[RockinRyA]

 

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

What actually happens on the court is what I'm basing it on.

When was the last time Brad Stevens went to Jaylen Brown for the game winning shot?

We already saw Tatum get 3 opportunities to win the game for the Celts.

Last season Kyrie went on a tantrum after Hayward gave the last shot to Tatum.

This season Tatum already hit a game winning shot against the Knicks.

Against the Kings in Boston, Brad went to Tatum again.
But Tatum missed the shot.

Jaylen is more efficient this season because he's taking less bad shots compared to last season.

Tatum on the other hand is taking more shots and forcing more shots this season.
That's why Tatum is inefficient.

Right now Tatum is also in a slump.
Once he snaps out of it, Tatum will look like a superstar.

Oh boy ignoring evidence again? From what I can see at the moment Tatum isnt really getting separation from his defenders. That is concerning and not a mark of a superstar.

[footey]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

What actually happens on the court is what I'm basing it on.

When was the last time Brad Stevens went to Jaylen Brown for the game winning shot?

We already saw Tatum get 3 opportunities to win the game for the Celts.

Last season Kyrie went on a tantrum after Hayward gave the last shot to Tatum.

This season Tatum already hit a game winning shot against the Knicks.

Against the Kings in Boston, Brad went to Tatum again.
But Tatum missed the shot.

Jaylen is more efficient this season because he's taking less bad shots compared to last season.

Tatum on the other hand is taking more shots and forcing more shots this season.
That's why Tatum is inefficient.

Right now Tatum is also in a slump.
Once he snaps out of it, Tatum will look like a superstar.

Last time Brad went to Jaylen? Utah on road during 2017-18 season probably.

And he hit the shot!

[droopdog7]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

What actually happens on the court is what I'm basing it on.

When was the last time Brad Stevens went to Jaylen Brown for the game winning shot?

We already saw Tatum get 3 opportunities to win the game for the Celts.

Last season Kyrie went on a tantrum after Hayward gave the last shot to Tatum.

This season Tatum already hit a game winning shot against the Knicks.

Against the Kings in Boston, Brad went to Tatum again.
But Tatum missed the shot.

Jaylen is more efficient this season because he's taking less bad shots compared to last season.

Tatum on the other hand is taking more shots and forcing more shots this season.
That's why Tatum is inefficient.

Right now Tatum is also in a slump.
Once he snaps out of it, Tatum will look like a superstar.

Oh boy ignoring evidence again? From what I can see at the moment Tatum isnt really getting separation from his defenders. That is concerning and not a mark of a superstar.

So this is me exactly.  Anytime Tatum faces up and tries to drive his man, he can’t.  He then ends up turning around and tries to back him up, and shoots a fade-away.  That’s pretty much garbage basketball that Tatum does WAY to often.  Any player in the nba can get THAT shot. 

[nickagneta]

Jayson Tatum's full potential is an unselfish Kobe.

Right now he's the only Celtic who can make a shot even if there's a man in front of him.

That's the mark of a superstar player.

I think it's in the playoffs where we will really see the real Jayson Tatum.

Right now Tatum is in a slump.

Imagine if he snaps out of it.

If you're never able to get yourself open, it's not the mark of a superstar. And Kemba is clearly another player who can 'make shots even if there's a man in front of him'. Kemba has made more very tightly contested (defined as a defender within 0-2 feet) and only one less tightly contested (defender within 2-4 feet), shots than Tatum. With the caveat that the NBA's defender tracking is hardly exact, but the greater point still stands.

Jaylen makes a higher percentage of very tightly contested shots and tightly contested shots than Tatum. Jaylen also made 3 more very tightly contested shots than Tatum while taking 2 less shots and made 14 less tightly contested shots while taking, get this 67 less shots from that range.

I also think Brown and Hayward can make shots or create shots with a man right in front of them. In that regard, the Celtics are lucky to have 4 guys that can do it

What actually happens on the court is what I'm basing it on.

When was the last time Brad Stevens went to Jaylen Brown for the game winning shot?

We already saw Tatum get 3 opportunities to win the game for the Celts.

Last season Kyrie went on a tantrum after Hayward gave the last shot to Tatum.

This season Tatum already hit a game winning shot against the Knicks.

Against the Kings in Boston, Brad went to Tatum again.
But Tatum missed the shot.

Jaylen is more efficient this season because he's taking less bad shots compared to last season.

Tatum on the other hand is taking more shots and forcing more shots this season.
That's why Tatum is inefficient.

Right now Tatum is also in a slump.
Once he snaps out of it, Tatum will look like a superstar.

Last time Brad went to Jaylen? Utah on road during 2017-18 season probably.

And he hit the shot!

Also, the one player making big shots late in that Denver game that almost brought the team all the way back was Brown.