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Re: Hayward Broken Hand
« Reply #150 on: November 12, 2019, 08:12:13 AM »

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I dont think you guys understand how much the Cs are going to miss GH. He was having an all-star season. The offense was running through him.

I guess if Jaylen or Jason got injured we'd probably miss GH more, but he's been pretty redundant since he got here - evidenced by the fact that the C's win totals really don't change at all whether GH plays or not.
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« Reply #151 on: November 12, 2019, 09:08:14 AM »

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What are the benefits of having surgery on a fractured bone? I can understand if it was a break, but not necessarily a fracture. Isnít the healing process for a fracture around 6 weeks anyways? Why add to the bodies process of healing itself by also having it deal with scar tissue and a foreign substance?

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« Reply #152 on: November 12, 2019, 09:50:31 AM »

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What are the benefits of having surgery on a fractured bone? I can understand if it was a break, but not necessarily a fracture. Isnít the healing process for a fracture around 6 weeks anyways? Why add to the bodies process of healing itself by also having it deal with scar tissue and a foreign substance?

It's mainly if the fractured bones are slightly misaligned as a result of the impact and need to be realigned with plates.
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« Reply #153 on: November 12, 2019, 11:32:52 AM »

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I dont think you guys understand how much the Cs are going to miss GH. He was having an all-star season. The offense was running through him.

I guess if Jaylen or Jason got injured we'd probably miss GH more, but he's been pretty redundant since he got here - evidenced by the fact that the C's win totals really don't change at all whether GH plays or not.

Going to be a long year, but thus far 2019 GH>2019JT.  And it's not close.  I'm a big fan of both. 

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« Reply #154 on: November 12, 2019, 11:54:25 AM »

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I dont think you guys understand how much the Cs are going to miss GH. He was having an all-star season. The offense was running through him.

I guess if Jaylen or Jason got injured we'd probably miss GH more, but he's been pretty redundant since he got here - evidenced by the fact that the C's win totals really don't change at all whether GH plays or not.

Going to be a long year, but thus far 2019 GH>2019JT.  And it's not close.  I'm a big fan of both.
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« Reply #155 on: November 12, 2019, 11:57:18 AM »

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What are the benefits of having surgery on a fractured bone? I can understand if it was a break, but not necessarily a fracture. Isnít the healing process for a fracture around 6 weeks anyways? Why add to the bodies process of healing itself by also having it deal with scar tissue and a foreign substance?

It's mainly if the fractured bones are slightly misaligned as a result of the impact and need to be realigned with plates.

I canít remember the last time an athlete with a fracture, hasnít had surgery. Then again, maybe they consider surgery as just getting a cast.

Reminds me how athletes always have flu-like symptoms, whenever they are sick. I know when I call into work sick, I just say that Iím sick. I have never said Iím out with flu-like symptoms. Why do athletes or the teams make something sound worse, simply because their missing a game?


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« Reply #156 on: November 12, 2019, 12:23:45 PM »

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What are the benefits of having surgery on a fractured bone? I can understand if it was a break, but not necessarily a fracture. Isnít the healing process for a fracture around 6 weeks anyways? Why add to the bodies process of healing itself by also having it deal with scar tissue and a foreign substance?

It's mainly if the fractured bones are slightly misaligned as a result of the impact and need to be realigned with plates.

True in general, though with a IVth metacarpal fracture theyíre more likely to use pins or screws.

There are a couple of other factors than alignment. If the fracture is near the end of the bone there is often additional damage to joint tissues or to tendons and their attachments. Even then surgery might not be called for.
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« Reply #157 on: November 12, 2019, 12:25:25 PM »

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I dont think you guys understand how much the Cs are going to miss GH. He was having an all-star season. The offense was running through him.

I guess if Jaylen or Jason got injured we'd probably miss GH more, but he's been pretty redundant since he got here - evidenced by the fact that the C's win totals really don't change at all whether GH plays or not.
Um, is hayward redundant or are JB and/or JT redundant?

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« Reply #158 on: November 12, 2019, 12:48:32 PM »

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What are the benefits of having surgery on a fractured bone? I can understand if it was a break, but not necessarily a fracture. Isnít the healing process for a fracture around 6 weeks anyways? Why add to the bodies process of healing itself by also having it deal with scar tissue and a foreign substance?

A break is the same as a fracture. A complete fracture is when the bone is broken all the way through.

In the case of a metacarpal fracture, the location of the break (what part of the bone) is the most important factor when considering surgery.

I canít remember the last time an athlete with a fracture, hasnít had surgery. Then again, maybe they consider surgery as just getting a cast.

They donít.
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« Reply #159 on: November 12, 2019, 01:33:51 PM »

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So six weeks would be 19 games missed.

vs DAL 11/11 (WIN 116-106)
vs WAS 11/13
@ GSW 11/15
@ SAC 11/17
@ PHO 11/18
@ LAC 11/20
@ DEN 11/22
vs SAC 11/25
vs BRK 11/27
@ BRK 11/29
@NYK 12/1
vs MIA 12/4
vs DEN 12/6
vs CLE 12/9
@ IND 12/11
vs PHI 12/12
@ DAL 12/18
vs DET 12/20
vs CHA 12/22
(6 weeks from this Nov 11, Dec 23)
@ TOR 12/25

What do people think a reasonable expectation  is for the C's in that window?

One down 18 to go.
13-6.  That would put them at 20-7.

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« Reply #160 on: November 13, 2019, 10:39:21 PM »

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So six weeks is 19 games missed.

vs DAL 11/11 (WIN 116-106)
vs WAS 11/13 (WIN 140-133)
@ GSW 11/15
@ SAC 11/17
@ PHO 11/18
@ LAC 11/20
@ DEN 11/22
vs SAC 11/25
vs BRK 11/27
@ BRK 11/29
@NYK 12/1
vs MIA 12/4
vs DEN 12/6
vs CLE 12/9
@ IND 12/11
vs PHI 12/12
@ DAL 12/18
vs DET 12/20
vs CHA 12/22
(6 weeks from this Monday, Dec 23)
@ TOR 12/25

What do people think a reasonable expectation  is for the C's in that window?

Two down seventeen to go.

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« Reply #161 on: November 13, 2019, 10:41:58 PM »

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« Reply #162 on: November 13, 2019, 10:48:09 PM »

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thanks keev. please keep this updated it will be interesting to follow. tp.

Thats the plan. This west coast trip is gonna be interesting.

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« Reply #163 on: November 13, 2019, 10:58:38 PM »

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I dont think you guys understand how much the Cs are going to miss GH. He was having an all-star season. The offense was running through him.

I guess if Jaylen or Jason got injured we'd probably miss GH more, but he's been pretty redundant since he got here - evidenced by the fact that the C's win totals really don't change at all whether GH plays or not.

Huh ??  Have you been watching ? They have won the last 2 without Hayward, at home vs losing teams. Hayward is the straw stirring the drink this season - we will miss him badly vs elite teams and also as the season grinds through a couple of road trips. Gotta get him back healthy. Maybe he will be rested and peaking come playoff time.
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« Reply #164 on: November 13, 2019, 11:02:57 PM »

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I dont think you guys understand how much the Cs are going to miss GH. He was having an all-star season. The offense was running through him.

I guess if Jaylen or Jason got injured we'd probably miss GH more, but he's been pretty redundant since he got here - evidenced by the fact that the C's win totals really don't change at all whether GH plays or not.

Huh ??  Have you been watching ? They have won the last 2 without Hayward, at home vs losing teams. Hayward is the straw stirring the drink this season - we will miss him badly vs elite teams and also as the season grinds through a couple of road trips. Gotta get him back healthy. Maybe he will be rested and peaking come playoff time.

I hate it when fans state the record without player to say how unimportant a player is to a team. And I agree with what you said. This team needs Hayward esp against elite teams.