Marcus Morris

[Fierce1]

Despite what Morris did last night I don’t miss him at all. I thought I’d miss Horford more than I do.   Maybe when I see playoff Al I’ll pine for him. But the youngsters are really getting to me.  I love that Grant, Jayson, Rob and Jaylen are 20, 21, 22, and 23 respectively.  Not to mention Marcus is 25 and Edwards/Waters are 21.  The basketball maturity of this young group is awesome to watch and I’m glad to see these guys getting minutes and growing this year even at the expense of a few more wins (if Al,, or Morris, were here).

True.

It was time to move on from Horford.

Horford was really underachieving the last 2 seasons in Boston.
He was only averaging close to 7 rebounds per game the last 2 seasons.

This season you can see the Celts are more active and relentless in pursuing the ball.
That's what happens when you have young players.

Celts would be small and slow with Horford.

Right now the Celts are small but very fast!

[Fierce1]

Regarding Mook, there was a place for Mook if the Celts didn't commit to Jaylen Brown long term.

But since the Celts are committed to Brown long term, there's no need for Marcus Morris anymore.

[JBcat]

Regarding Mook, there was a place for Mook if the Celts didn't commit to Jaylen Brown long term.

But since the Celts are committed to Brown long term, there's no need for Marcus Morris anymore.

I think we may have taken Morris back, but we had to renounce his rights in order to create enough cap space to sign Walker.

I’m fine though not bringing him back.  More shots for our 4 main scorers.

[wiley]

As I said before the season started I thought the loss of Morris was bigger than Irving and Horford... 29 pts and late FG to tie the game with 4 seconds left.

Good thing Tatum bailed the Celtics out or Morris could have lead the Knicks over his former team.

MikeB

If we had Morris right now, we'd be much the same team we are.

If we had Al Horford, we'd be the Eastern Conference favorites.

I agree. Morris is a tough baller who has some hot streaks. He doesn't pass or recognise when he is off and part of the problem. I like his attitude overall but he may have been a considerable part of the whole dressing room problem. Once Kyrie made his intentions clear I think DA and BS thought it was best to cut out the whole cancer. I don't know this is true, it is just the feeling I got from the way that part of last season was covered in the media and places like here.

Perhaps, and all 3 of Morris, Irving and Rozier were part of that problem.

Actually, Mike Gorman went out of his way to say that Morris was delightful to be around during his time with the Celtics.  He said Morris was a great teammate, and singled him out as one of the players NOT to be affected by the team's dysfunctionalisms.  In fact, Gorman painted him as a solid, steadying and pleasant presence on the team. 

[timpiker]

I like Morris but last night was the game of his life.  And he was up for the game because we're his former team that feels slighted because "we didn't call him" to tell him we couldn't afford him.  Again, I like Morris BUT at what expense?  At the expense of Kemba?  I don't think so.

[gift]

As I said before the season started I thought the loss of Morris was bigger than Irving and Horford... 29 pts and late FG to tie the game with 4 seconds left.

Good thing Tatum bailed the Celtics out or Morris could have lead the Knicks over his former team.

MikeB

If we had Morris right now, we'd be much the same team we are.

If we had Al Horford, we'd be the Eastern Conference favorites.

I agree. Morris is a tough baller who has some hot streaks. He doesn't pass or recognise when he is off and part of the problem. I like his attitude overall but he may have been a considerable part of the whole dressing room problem. Once Kyrie made his intentions clear I think DA and BS thought it was best to cut out the whole cancer. I don't know this is true, it is just the feeling I got from the way that part of last season was covered in the media and places like here.

Perhaps, and all 3 of Morris, Irving and Rozier were part of that problem.

Actually, Mike Gorman went out of his way to say that Morris was delightful to be around during his time with the Celtics.  He said Morris was a great teammate, and singled him out as one of the players NOT to be affected by the team's dysfunctionalisms.  In fact, Gorman painted him as a solid, steadying and pleasant presence on the team.

I think Morris was one of the guys who could speak up without worrying about offending anyone. He was good for the team and carried the offense at times, surprisingly. However, his fit on the court with Kyrie, Rozier and Tatum was not ideal. As much as I appreciate what he brought, his absence makes room for other players' growth and more ball movement overall.

[SHAQATTACK]

i was one who liked his game for the most part .  But i can see where his price got in the way of Dannys plans. 

Hopefully Grant will help fill his role.

[Valid]

Despite what Morris did last night I don’t miss him at all. I thought I’d miss Horford more than I do.   Maybe when I see playoff Al I’ll pine for him. But the youngsters are really getting to me.  I love that Grant, Jayson, Rob and Jaylen are 20, 21, 22, and 23 respectively.  Not to mention Marcus is 25 and Edwards/Waters are 21.  The basketball maturity of this young group is awesome to watch and I’m glad to see these guys getting minutes and growing this year even at the expense of a few more wins (if Al,, or Morris, were here).

True.

It was time to move on from Horford.

Horford was really underachieving the last 2 seasons in Boston.
He was only averaging close to 7 rebounds per game the last 2 seasons.

This season you can see the Celts are more active and relentless in pursuing the ball.
That's what happens when you have young players.

Celts would be small and slow with Horford.

Right now the Celts are small but very fast!

Oh come on. Let's not rewrite history here.

Horford was terrific in all three of his seasons with the Celtics. He was consistently our best player (not IT or Kyrie) and was the backbone of the team.

He was never a great rebounder, not even in his Atlanta days. That wasn't his game.

As for this thread? Saying that we miss Morris (who I like a lot) more than Horford is insanity. We would be better with Morris off the bench, no doubt, but we would be clear-cut favorites in the East with Horford.

[cman88]

Hayward wouldnt be performing like he currently is if Morris was on the team. not sure if Tatum/Brown would be either. best decision danny made this offseason was jettisoning Roleplayer Gunners who wouldnt necessarily conform into their role and would hurt the development of Tatum/Brown by taking their shots.

While the bench is currently struggling, the shot selection is really how it should be...your 4 best players are taking most of the shots and everyone has clearly defined roles.

No more having hayward stand in a corner. Or brown take 8 shots while Morris/Rozier take 15 each.

[Fierce1]

Despite what Morris did last night I don’t miss him at all. I thought I’d miss Horford more than I do.   Maybe when I see playoff Al I’ll pine for him. But the youngsters are really getting to me.  I love that Grant, Jayson, Rob and Jaylen are 20, 21, 22, and 23 respectively.  Not to mention Marcus is 25 and Edwards/Waters are 21.  The basketball maturity of this young group is awesome to watch and I’m glad to see these guys getting minutes and growing this year even at the expense of a few more wins (if Al,, or Morris, were here).

True.

It was time to move on from Horford.

Horford was really underachieving the last 2 seasons in Boston.
He was only averaging close to 7 rebounds per game the last 2 seasons.

This season you can see the Celts are more active and relentless in pursuing the ball.
That's what happens when you have young players.

Celts would be small and slow with Horford.

Right now the Celts are small but very fast!

Oh come on. Let's not rewrite history here.

Horford was terrific in all three of his seasons with the Celtics. He was consistently our best player (not IT or Kyrie) and was the backbone of the team.

He was never a great rebounder, not even in his Atlanta days. That wasn't his game.

As for this thread? Saying that we miss Morris (who I like a lot) more than Horford is insanity. We would be better with Morris off the bench, no doubt, but we would be clear-cut favorites in the East with Horford.

Horford was being paid 28m per year and he only averaged 13 ppg and 7 rpg in his last 2 seasons with the Celts.

Clearly Horford was getting old.

With Atlanta, Horford never averaged less than 7 rebounds per game.

It's not Horford's fault that he got old.

If we'd gotten a 28-year old Al Horford, it would've been a different story.

[cman88]

Horford was over-paid in his tenure here(and is overpaid on philly) but his addition definitely made us a much better team with all of the little things al did such as space the floor, his passing, defense, setting screens.

I think its safe to say our team would be much better this year with him on it. But, hes not a max player anymore.

[Fierce1]

Horford was over-paid in his tenure here(and is overpaid on philly) but his addition definitely made us a much better team with all of the little things al did such as space the floor, his passing, defense, setting screens.

I think its safe to say our team would be much better this year with him on it. But, hes not a max player anymore.

I disagree.

It was time to move on from Horford.

Horford had a chance to lead the Celts to the finals in 2018.
In Game 7 of that east finals against Lebron and the Cavs, Horford only had 4 rebounds in 40 minutes.

Celts were so close to a finals appearance.
But Horford couldn't rise to the occasion.

Same thing happened with the Hawks when Horford was there.
Hawks never advanced to the finals with Horford.

It was time to move on from Horford, Morris, and Rozier.

Just look at how fun this current Celts team is.

[MikeB12]

Funny, when I started a thread late last year that said those on this forum who thought the Celtics would/should dump Stevens were nuts basically, my post got zapped by the moderator because that was not PC apparently.  But when a poster says that it is insanity that I think the Celtics miss Morris more than Horford or K I that is ok I guess...

Frankly, I'm not offended one bit by the insanity comment; think it is perfectly legit as far as I'm concerned just that sometimes moderators think they have to "moderate" too much. 

MikeB  - longtime Celts fan

[CF033]

I'm fine with Morris gone - I was never a big fan. He had his moments but IMO Al was a much bigger loss.

I actually prefer the Celts without Morris.

[cman88]

The problem with morris is he thinks he is better than he is. He took 13-15 shots a game last year.

That is taking shots away from guys with more talent like Tatum, Brown, Hayward

It's no surprise to me that now with morris gone and those shots distributed to those guys that they are flourishing