Knicks (1-4) at Celtics (3-1) Game #5 11/1/19

[Kuberski33]

The rebounding and lack of a quality big man is a legit concern.

But we all know heading into the season that's the Celts' weakness.

Ainge has time to address the problem.

Celts just need to win as many games as they can until Ainge can find a solution.

There's a better than good chance that it doesn't get addressed till next summer.

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

[Fierce1]

The rebounding and lack of a quality big man is a legit concern.

But we all know heading into the season that's the Celts' weakness.

Ainge has time to address the problem.

Celts just need to win as many games as they can until Ainge can find a solution.

There's a better than good chance that it doesn't get addressed till next summer.

Then Ainge will get criticized for not improving the team when the team is in a position to win now.

The east is wide open this season.

Bucks are the only legit threat.

Sixers are not better this season compared to last season.

And Toronto doesn't have Kawhi anymore.

[Somebody]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

[Scottiej23]

Celtics have the worst Center rotation in the NBA. Totally ruined on the boards almost cost them this game.

Seriously? You have 2 rotation guys at that position injured, both of whom are two of their best rebounders. You lot keep on finding stupid things to complain about.

They just gave up 16 offensive rebounds and got 3. On this night, in this game, under these circumstances their Center rotation is terribly weak. It almost cost them this game.

Bu it didn't...

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

[Somebody]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

[liam]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

How do you acquire Thompson? buyout?

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

How do you acquire Thompson? buyout?

Tristan Thompson's salary is 18.5m.

Celts have 6 players they can trade for him.

Kanter - 4.7m
Theis - 5m
Langford - 3.45m
Poirier - 2.5m
Semi - 1.6m
Wanamaker - 1.4m

Total - 18.65m

Celts can trade 4 among the 6 players to make the trade for Tristan work.

[liam]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

How do you acquire Thompson? buyout?

Tristan Thompson's salary is 18.5m.

Celts have 6 players they can trade for him.

Kanter - 4.7m
Theis - 5m
Langford - 3.45m
Poirier - 2.5m
Semi - 1.6m
Wanamaker - 1.4m

Total - 18.65m

Celts can trade 4 among the 6 players to make the trade for Tristan work.

Out of those 6 players only Langford is available to trade. A six for one all in trade for a year of Thompson?

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

How do you acquire Thompson? buyout?

Tristan Thompson's salary is 18.5m.

Celts have 6 players they can trade for him.

Kanter - 4.7m
Theis - 5m
Langford - 3.45m
Poirier - 2.5m
Semi - 1.6m
Wanamaker - 1.4m

Total - 18.65m

Celts can trade 4 among the 6 players to make the trade for Tristan work.

Out of those 6 players only Langford is available to trade. A six for one all in trade for a year of Thompson?

Some of the players can be traded in December and Theis can be traded on January.

4 among the 6 can be traded for Tristan.

Ainge can do it in December or January.

It's not just 1 year of Tristan because the Celts will own his Bird rights.

The deal breaker will be what draft pick the Celts are willing to give the Cavs as incentive to give up Tristan.

[Fierce1]

Free-throws just cost the Mavs a win against the Lakers.

Mavs leading by 2 points, with 6 seconds remaining, and Powell went to the FT line.
Powell missed the first and made the second.
Down 3 Lebron found an open Danny Green in the corner for the game tying 3.
Seth Curry was responsible for covering Green.

[seancally]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

How do you acquire Thompson? buyout?

Tristan Thompson's salary is 18.5m.

Celts have 6 players they can trade for him.

Kanter - 4.7m
Theis - 5m
Langford - 3.45m
Poirier - 2.5m
Semi - 1.6m
Wanamaker - 1.4m

Total - 18.65m

Celts can trade 4 among the 6 players to make the trade for Tristan work.

Out of those 6 players only Langford is available to trade. A six for one all in trade for a year of Thompson?

Some of the players can be traded in December and Theis can be traded on January.

4 among the 6 can be traded for Tristan.

Ainge can do it in December or January.

It's not just 1 year of Tristan because the Celts will own his Bird rights.

The deal breaker will be what draft pick the Celts are willing to give the Cavs as incentive to give up Tristan.

I mean we could also see what Kanter gives us beyond the one game against the best Center in the East / league (possibly).

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum just has the mentality of a superstar player.

Marcus Smart has the same mentality, but Smart doesn't have the shot-making abilities of Tatum.

That's the difference between Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum, Tatum has the mentality of a star player, Brown doesn't.

LOL I love these talks about "clutchness". There's a reason why the Celtics are paying Jaylen like a superstar fam.

If Ainge and the Celts think Brown is a superstar, Brown would've gotten the max, just like Siakam.

Brown is an All-Star caliber player, not a superstar.

If we're differentiating stars like that then sure, his realistic ceiling is more like an All-Star. I do think that he has a shot at reaching superstardom though, his feel for the game has improved significantly this season.

True.

Right now Tatum has clearly made the leap.

Jayson Tatum is really starting to become Paul Pierce 2.0.

I'm really happy that the Celts didn't give Brown the max.
So it's a good compromise.

If Brown can make 70% of his FTs, he's going to be an All-Star.

In this game we saw how the Celts won the game at the FT line.

Celts gave up 16 offensive rebounds to the Knicks.
If this was last season, Celts would've lost this game.
But the Celts made up for the lack of rebounding by going 27-29 from the FT line, 93%!

I love Pierce but we'll need Tatum to become a better player than peak Pierce. I don't see us winning a title with an All-NBA player as our cornerstone, we need someone with an MVP calibre peak.

Celts don't need an MVP caliber player.
There's enough star power in Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart.

All the Celts need is a quality big man that can rebound and protect the paint.
RWill can be that guy.
But right now the Celts need someone who's playoff ready.
My money is on Tristan Thompson.

How do you acquire Thompson? buyout?

Tristan Thompson's salary is 18.5m.

Celts have 6 players they can trade for him.

Kanter - 4.7m
Theis - 5m
Langford - 3.45m
Poirier - 2.5m
Semi - 1.6m
Wanamaker - 1.4m

Total - 18.65m

Celts can trade 4 among the 6 players to make the trade for Tristan work.

Out of those 6 players only Langford is available to trade. A six for one all in trade for a year of Thompson?

Some of the players can be traded in December and Theis can be traded on January.

4 among the 6 can be traded for Tristan.

Ainge can do it in December or January.

It's not just 1 year of Tristan because the Celts will own his Bird rights.

The deal breaker will be what draft pick the Celts are willing to give the Cavs as incentive to give up Tristan.

I mean we could also see what Kanter gives us beyond the one game against the best Center in the East / league (possibly).

This is Kanter's 9th season.

He's a proven commodity.

Kanter's excellent on offense and rebounding.
But he's bad defensively.
That's why he keeps getting traded.