NBA 2019-2020 season thread

[bdm860]

Individual rebounding stats, while sexy, are a terrible way to judge how good/effective a player is.  Rebounding, specifically defensive rebounding, is really something that should be looked at from the team level.  It's not, "do you get the ball on a miss", it's more "do you stop your man from getting the ball on a miss."

I don't know about Theis specifically, but I've learned to look past rebounding numbers.  A guy like Brook Lopez is a great rebounder, but you'd think he sucks at it looking at his stats.  The reason he's a great rebounder is because he boxes his man out allowing his team to get the ball.  It's similar with Steven Adams, he boxes out so his team can grab the board (a large reason why Westbrook was able to average a triple double). 

And this is the same reason why guys like Drummond and Whiteside apparently have such little value now around the league, and are thought of as empty calories.  They go chase the stats to the detriment of the team.  Noel has been notorious for this too, going block chasing, as has our own Time Lord.  The problem when you chase the ball (for rebounds or blocks), you're suddenly out of position, and if you fail to get the block/rebound, the other team is now in an even better position to score.  You end up upping your individual rebound/block stats, but your team ends up giving up 8-10 more points in the process from all the times you're out of position.

Rebounds and blocks can be a very misleading stat, steals too (if you're always gambling).  While all stats can be misleading, these are the most notorious and misused ones in my opinion.

[Fierce1]

Individual rebounding stats, while sexy, are a terrible way to judge how good/effective a player is.  Rebounding, specifically defensive rebounding, is really something that should be looked at from the team level.  It's not, "do you get the ball on a miss", it's more "do you stop your man from getting the ball on a miss."

I don't know about Theis specifically, but I've learned to look past rebounding numbers.  A guy like Brook Lopez is a great rebounder, but you'd think he sucks at it looking at his stats.  The reason he's a great rebounder is because he boxes his man out allowing his team to get the ball.  It's similar with Steven Adams, he boxes out so his team can grab the board (a large reason why Westbrook was able to average a triple double). 

And this is the same reason why guys like Drummond and Whiteside apparently have such little value now around the league, and are thought of as empty calories.  They go chase the stats to the detriment of the team.  Noel has been notorious for this too, going block chasing, as has our own Time Lord.  The problem when you chase the ball (for rebounds or blocks), you're suddenly out of position, and if you fail to get the block/rebound, the other team is now in an even better position to score.  You end up upping your individual rebound/block stats, but your team ends up giving up 8-10 more points in the process from all the times you're out of position.

Rebounds and blocks can be a very misleading stat, steals too (if you're always gambling).  While all stats can be misleading, these are the most notorious and misused ones in my opinion.

I agree.

But I'm sure Giannis would have a hard time scoring over Noel than Theis.

The main problem with Theis is he's just too short to be playing against the starters of the NBA.

We already saw how a big man like Baynes made it harder for Giannis to score.
That's why the Celts beat the Bucks in 2018.

With a 6-8 Theis, Giannis will score at will over Theis.

[fairweatherfan]

Individual rebounding stats, while sexy, are a terrible way to judge how good/effective a player is.  Rebounding, specifically defensive rebounding, is really something that should be looked at from the team level.  It's not, "do you get the ball on a miss", it's more "do you stop your man from getting the ball on a miss."

I don't know about Theis specifically, but I've learned to look past rebounding numbers.  A guy like Brook Lopez is a great rebounder, but you'd think he sucks at it looking at his stats.  The reason he's a great rebounder is because he boxes his man out allowing his team to get the ball.  It's similar with Steven Adams, he boxes out so his team can grab the board (a large reason why Westbrook was able to average a triple double). 

And this is the same reason why guys like Drummond and Whiteside apparently have such little value now around the league, and are thought of as empty calories.  They go chase the stats to the detriment of the team.  Noel has been notorious for this too, going block chasing, as has our own Time Lord.  The problem when you chase the ball (for rebounds or blocks), you're suddenly out of position, and if you fail to get the block/rebound, the other team is now in an even better position to score.  You end up upping your individual rebound/block stats, but your team ends up giving up 8-10 more points in the process from all the times you're out of position.

Rebounds and blocks can be a very misleading stat, steals too (if you're always gambling).  While all stats can be misleading, these are the most notorious and misused ones in my opinion.

I agree.

But I'm sure Giannis would have a hard time scoring over Noel than Theis.

The main problem with Theis is he's just too short to be playing against the starters of the NBA.

We already saw how a big man like Baynes made it harder for Giannis to score.
That's why the Celts beat the Bucks in 2018.

With a 6-8 Theis, Giannis will score at will over Theis.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Individual rebounding stats, while sexy, are a terrible way to judge how good/effective a player is.  Rebounding, specifically defensive rebounding, is really something that should be looked at from the team level.  It's not, "do you get the ball on a miss", it's more "do you stop your man from getting the ball on a miss."

I don't know about Theis specifically, but I've learned to look past rebounding numbers.  A guy like Brook Lopez is a great rebounder, but you'd think he sucks at it looking at his stats.  The reason he's a great rebounder is because he boxes his man out allowing his team to get the ball.  It's similar with Steven Adams, he boxes out so his team can grab the board (a large reason why Westbrook was able to average a triple double). 

And this is the same reason why guys like Drummond and Whiteside apparently have such little value now around the league, and are thought of as empty calories.  They go chase the stats to the detriment of the team.  Noel has been notorious for this too, going block chasing, as has our own Time Lord.  The problem when you chase the ball (for rebounds or blocks), you're suddenly out of position, and if you fail to get the block/rebound, the other team is now in an even better position to score.  You end up upping your individual rebound/block stats, but your team ends up giving up 8-10 more points in the process from all the times you're out of position.

Rebounds and blocks can be a very misleading stat, steals too (if you're always gambling).  While all stats can be misleading, these are the most notorious and misused ones in my opinion.

I agree.

But I'm sure Giannis would have a hard time scoring over Noel than Theis.

The main problem with Theis is he's just too short to be playing against the starters of the NBA.

We already saw how a big man like Baynes made it harder for Giannis to score.
That's why the Celts beat the Bucks in 2018.

With a 6-8 Theis, Giannis will score at will over Theis.

Nice!

[Fierce1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtO5tF5roks

Noel also blocks Giannis, not once but twice!

[Fierce1]

Lakers #1 in the west but still trying to improve.

Marc Stein: My man @Chris Haynes just reported on TNT that Dion Waiters has a March 2 meeting date with the Lakers 4 hours ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine

[johnnygreen]

Lakers #1 in the west but still trying to improve.

Marc Stein: My man @Chris Haynes just reported on TNT that Dion Waiters has a March 2 meeting date with the Lakers 4 hours ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine

He may not help them on the court, but he will surely help his teammates take the edge off during those airplane flights.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Lakers #1 in the west but still trying to improve.

Marc Stein: My man @Chris Haynes just reported on TNT that Dion Waiters has a March 2 meeting date with the Lakers 4 hours ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine

Because they aren't as good as their record suggests! I don't care if it's an unpopular opinion! They have had good health with LBJ and Davis, they probably haven't missed 10 games combined, so they play at full strength most nights and aren't much better than everyone else! They know they need more too.

[nickagneta]

Helping your team by adding Dion Waiters.

That's very oxymoronic.

[SparzWizard]

Lakers #1 in the west but still trying to improve.

Marc Stein: My man @Chris Haynes just reported on TNT that Dion Waiters has a March 2 meeting date with the Lakers 4 hours ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine

Because they aren't as good as their record suggests! I don't care if it's an unpopular opinion! They have had good health with LBJ and Davis, they probably haven't missed 10 games combined, so they play at full strength most nights and aren't much better than everyone else! They know they need more too.

They probably will survive the rest of the season healthy. Which would be bad news for the Western Conference come playoff time.

[rondofan1255]

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1232746716950077441?s=21

[celticsclay]

Joel Embid has injured his shoulder and will not return to the game. Things are really taking a turn for the worse down there. I feel bad for Embid cause he seems to have a lot of freak injury, but then again maybe some of it is tied to diet and conditioning.

[RPGenerate]

Sixers getting spanked by the Cavs lol. Even without Embiid and Simmons, that's gotta hurt.

[celticsclay]

Sixers getting spanked by the Cavs lol. Even without Embiid and Simmons, that's gotta hurt.

I think they clearly made a mistake not firing brown...

[slamtheking]

Helping your team by adding Dion Waiters.

That's very oxymoronic.

well, there's a first time for everything.  he just might help this time