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Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2019, 11:42:53 PM »

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The financial cost to cut Strus and sign Tacko or Green to a 2-way is next to nothing. If come time to set the roster Danny would rather keep Tacko or Green over Strus, Strus will be cut, regardless if he is already signed.

Exactly this (with the exception that if my memory serves, Green has been guaranteed too much money to be eligible for a two-way).

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2019, 01:59:02 AM »

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The financial cost to cut Strus and sign Tacko or Green to a 2-way is next to nothing. If come time to set the roster Danny would rather keep Tacko or Green over Strus, Strus will be cut, regardless if he is already signed.

Exactly this (with the exception that if my memory serves, Green has been guaranteed too much money to be eligible for a two-way).

That's why the simple solution is to trade Semi for a 2nd round pick that will not convey.
Javonte will get Semi's spot and Tacko gets the 15th roster spot.

Celts also get to keep Strus if Semi is traded.

There's just no sign of Semi becoming a regular contributor in the NBA.
He's just not an NBA player.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2019, 02:10:22 AM »

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The financial cost to cut Strus and sign Tacko or Green to a 2-way is next to nothing. If come time to set the roster Danny would rather keep Tacko or Green over Strus, Strus will be cut, regardless if he is already signed.

Exactly this (with the exception that if my memory serves, Green has been guaranteed too much money to be eligible for a two-way).

That's why the simple solution is to trade Semi for a 2nd round pick that will not convey.
Javonte will get Semi's spot and Tacko gets the 15th roster spot.

Celts also get to keep Strus if Semi is traded.

There's just no sign of Semi becoming a regular contributor in the NBA.
He's just not an NBA player.

We also have to take into consideration we drafted Romeo Langford. His game (from what I can guess) equates more closely to Brad Wanamaker. Would it make more sense to trade or cut him? Not sure they could trade him though. Hate to do it as he looks pretty good.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2019, 09:41:28 AM »

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The financial cost to cut Strus and sign Tacko or Green to a 2-way is next to nothing. If come time to set the roster Danny would rather keep Tacko or Green over Strus, Strus will be cut, regardless if he is already signed.

Exactly this (with the exception that if my memory serves, Green has been guaranteed too much money to be eligible for a two-way).

That's why the simple solution is to trade Semi for a 2nd round pick that will not convey.
Javonte will get Semi's spot and Tacko gets the 15th roster spot.

Celts also get to keep Strus if Semi is traded.

There's just no sign of Semi becoming a regular contributor in the NBA.
He's just not an NBA player.

Maybe you are reacting to Semi's poor performance in first pre-season game, I get it. But remember his play from last 2 seasons, taken as a whole.  He actually played pretty decent, and showed improvement on his 3 point shot. 

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2019, 09:53:48 AM »

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The financial cost to cut Strus and sign Tacko or Green to a 2-way is next to nothing. If come time to set the roster Danny would rather keep Tacko or Green over Strus, Strus will be cut, regardless if he is already signed.

Exactly this (with the exception that if my memory serves, Green has been guaranteed too much money to be eligible for a two-way).

That's why the simple solution is to trade Semi for a 2nd round pick that will not convey.
Javonte will get Semi's spot and Tacko gets the 15th roster spot.

Celts also get to keep Strus if Semi is traded.

There's just no sign of Semi becoming a regular contributor in the NBA.
He's just not an NBA player.

Maybe you are reacting to Semi's poor performance in first pre-season game, I get it. But remember his play from last 2 seasons, taken as a whole.  He actually played pretty decent, and showed improvement on his 3 point shot.
Yeah, there is no way Brad and Danny will move a proven NBA defender that showed a bit more offensive game last year to keep 4 quality 2-way players on the roster instead of three.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2019, 03:56:53 PM »

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That Javonte Green is a monster. Don't see Max knocking off Javonte any time soon.
Ah but the mood will change on Celticsstong when Javonte goes 0 for 6 with 4 TO's in his next appearance.... ;D

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Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2019, 04:22:50 PM »

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They all get more than one game to prove they belong, but if they don’t I doubt Danny would hesitate cutting a guy with a contract and giving it to someone else.

As far as cutting Strus or Semi, I have seen mention of cutting a 2-way player would set a bad example to agents of other 2-way players and they wouldn’t sign here. Those guys don’t have much choice. They are barely scraping at the NBA door. There are dozens of other players in the same boat to choose from if one guy says “no.”

For Semi, well, lots of draft picks get 3 years to prove themselves worthy of a spot, but Red cut Michael Young, a 1st round pick, before the season even started, because he was too much of a project to contribute on a contender and Red didn’t want to give him 2-3 years to develop.

If anything it would send a message that it doesn’t matter if you have a contract, you have to be 1 out of 15 when the season starts or someone else takes your place. If Max doesn’t make an impact soon, then maybe he’s Javonte in a few years trying to make the league again at 26, or he’s an assistant coach at DePaul.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2019, 04:31:43 PM »

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who is Max Strus?

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Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2019, 07:00:14 PM »

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The odds of Strus, tacko, or green ever becoming much of anything are pretty low.  So who cares is my attitude.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2019, 07:38:03 PM »

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They all get more than one game to prove they belong, but if they don’t I doubt Danny would hesitate cutting a guy with a contract and giving it to someone else.

As far as cutting Strus or Semi, I have seen mention of cutting a 2-way player would set a bad example to agents of other 2-way players and they wouldn’t sign here. Those guys don’t have much choice. They are barely scraping at the NBA door. There are dozens of other players in the same boat to choose from if one guy says “no.”

For Semi, well, lots of draft picks get 3 years to prove themselves worthy of a spot, but Red cut Michael Young, a 1st round pick, before the season even started, because he was too much of a project to contribute on a contender and Red didn’t want to give him 2-3 years to develop.

If anything it would send a message that it doesn’t matter if you have a contract, you have to be 1 out of 15 when the season starts or someone else takes your place. If Max doesn’t make an impact soon, then maybe he’s Javonte in a few years trying to make the league again at 26, or he’s an assistant coach at DePaul.
I've also seen people argue this, but it really doesn't make sense. Teams cut guys from their active roster, even guys with guaranteed money. Guys without guaranteed money know they can be cut at any time and it does not reflect poorly on the team at all. I fail to see why guys on a two way contract would think they should get more deference than active roster players with guaranteed money.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2019, 09:40:13 AM »

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It’s fun watching a bunch of end of bench guys playing like Strus, Javonte, Waters, etc. but I feel like management would be foolish not to sign Tacko.
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Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2019, 11:01:41 AM »

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The odds of Strus, tacko, or green ever becoming much of anything are pretty low.  So who cares is my attitude.
Okay, but let's say you are Danny Ainge.  You have to care.  Which one has the best odds of becoming something?  I would say it's Tacko even though that something is not much.

What does everyone think of Javonte Green?  I know it was just Hornets scrubs, but he looked awfully good.

Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2019, 01:50:36 PM »

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The odds of Strus, tacko, or green ever becoming much of anything are pretty low.  So who cares is my attitude.
Okay, but let's say you are Danny Ainge.  You have to care.  Which one has the best odds of becoming something?  I would say it's Tacko even though that something is not much.

What does everyone think of Javonte Green?  I know it was just Hornets scrubs, but he looked awfully good.

Green has been solid to very good his entire time with us which includes SL. That could mean he was a guy who needed longer to figure out how to play with the big boys or that it took him longer to mature or maybe his age and experience leads him to look much better than the lesser talent he has faced thus far.

I guess it’s hard to pin it down right now because he hasn’t faced much “certified” NBA talent yet, not really been tested. For his part, he can only face the people/opponents put in front of him, he’s doing what he needs to do to stand out against that competition, that’s pretty much all you can ask of the guy.

I think Strus is the guy hanging on by a thread because he was the last of the guys to play that you’d really consider for one of the 2-ways or the last of the 15. Yes, I know he already is a 2-way but that won’t matter when it’s said and done if someone outperformed him. I don’t pay too much attention to our 2-ways but IIRC we have released and added other players b4, I think last season and maybe the year b4 too. For the life of me, I can’t remember the players involved.
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Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2019, 02:32:44 PM »

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That Javonte Green is a monster. Don't see Max knocking off Javonte any time soon.
Ah but the mood will change on Celticsstong when Javonte goes 0 for 6 with 4 TO's in his next appearance.... ;D
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Re: Max Strus signing doesn't make any sense
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2019, 09:16:11 PM »

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That Javonte Green is a monster. Don't see Max knocking off Javonte any time soon.
Ah but the mood will change on Celticsstong when Javonte goes 0 for 6 with 4 TO's in his next appearance.... ;D
at CS, we like to live in the moment.  ;D

There is the whole SL games to back up Green's case.

Another game, another average to no-show from Strus.