Demarcus Cousins to be arrested

[GreenEnvy]

How do you know he never meant it?   Are you Prof. Xavier and you can read his mind?

You’ve got that backward. It’s the prosecution‘s duty to prove all elements of a crime, not the defendant’s.

Im not sure I understand this response. The element of the crime in question here is that he threatened her, correct? Not whether he was going to follow through (which I assume would be attempted murder or conspiracy or whatever).

Or should we stand back and wait to see if he actually does put a bullet in her head so we can confirm whether he really meant it or not?

[Donoghus]

Heat of the moment or not, via phone hundreds of miles away or not, it takes a pretty unhinged individual to tell another human being that they're gonna put a bullet in their brain. 

Guy's a scumbag no matter how you put it.

[ChillyWilly]

I'm with Roy on this one.  A 3rd Degree Misdemeanor is not exactly a major crime.  Especially when you make a threat in a heated argument about your son not being allowed to attend your wedding.  I'm guessing this is a giant nothing-burger that will go away completely.  You may actually have to intent with that charge and that would be a difficult one to prove (if intent is required).

Now if there was physical violence in the past, that is something else, but there apparently isn't even a police report about that, so who knows what happened.

Yeah, but the threat was to put a bullet through her head.   That's not cool.

that doesn't strike me as any different than all kinds of things that people say in heated conversations over the phone.  Unless he has pointed a gun at her in the past or something like that, it really is a nothing-burger.

Strongly disagree.  That is specifically very threatening.

sure, but no different than any other type of threat people say on the phone that they have no intention of carrying out.  This is a giant nothing burger.

You know his intentions? I think you are holding strong to this nothing burger because of your world view on women using children as a weapon against dads. Yup that sucks but we all have a legal system that Mr. Cousins has enough resources to use. Maybe legally this is a nothing burger but as a society we shouldn't let this be a nothing burger. I don't want any man threatening any woman with violence because it defeats the purpose of being a man in the first place.

[nickagneta]

When a man as physically imposing as DeMarcus Cousins gets heated and his threat is not to harm her with assault but goes straight to a threat of gun violence, I think speaks to what Cousins could be capable of.

I find it disgusting that he would threaten to hurt a woman, no matter how he did it. But in today's world, where words need to be watched much more closely because: mass shootings, stand your ground conceal and carry bullies, and gun violence in general, if someone as big and strong as Boogie is threatening to shoot you and not beat you, I am taking that serious.

[Celtics4ever]

You’ve got that backward. It’s the prosecution‘s duty to prove all elements of a crime, not the defendant’s.

I was jesting about the guy who claimed we did not know his intent.   But we know he said it,  we have him on tape.   He made a verbal threat to commit harm is that proof enough?  She was already seeking a restraining order for him choking her.  I don't think a prosecutor has much problem but we all know Cousins can afford better lawyers that might be better or intimidate prosecution.

I know some of you like him as a player but open your eyes.  This has domestic violence written all over it.   I hope they take his firearms many states do after a DV charge.

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I honestly don't see how anyone is defending Cousins.  His ex-gf claims that he choked her before.
That + 'the put a bullet..." comment is just freaking scary. 

If she was being unreasonable about not letting his son attend the wedding, then deal with that in another way.  Get a friend to talk to her, or something else, but how about don't threaten her life over it?

Hopefully she can stay away from him.

[Roy H.]

I honestly don't see how anyone is defending Cousins.  His ex-gf claims that he choked her before.
That + 'the put a bullet..." comment is just freaking scary. 

If she was being unreasonable about not letting his son attend the wedding, then deal with that in another way.  Get a friend to talk to her, or something else, but how about don't threaten her life over it?

Hopefully she can stay away from him.

“She claims” is pretty key.  Did it actually happen, or not?

I don’t fully trust somebody who withholds another’s kids out of jealousy. Perhaps I’m too normalized to this, but threats like these are pretty common in contested custody cases.

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I honestly don't see how anyone is defending Cousins.  His ex-gf claims that he choked her before.
That + 'the put a bullet..." comment is just freaking scary. 

If she was being unreasonable about not letting his son attend the wedding, then deal with that in another way.  Get a friend to talk to her, or something else, but how about don't threaten her life over it?

Hopefully she can stay away from him.

“She claims” is pretty key.  Did it actually happen, or not?

I don’t fully trust somebody who withholds another’s kids out of jealousy. Perhaps I’m too normalized to this, but threats like these are pretty common in contested custody cases.

Well Cousins has a history of suspensions and misc violence in the NBA as well.  It isn't like this guy has been mr. sweet and nice.  I don't think that you can just overlook all of that as well.  That is part of who he is.  Does that make the ex-gf trustworthy?  Absolutely not, but Cousins has a history of loosing control and anger issues.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article122042604.html

[SHAQATTACK]

When a man as physically imposing as DeMarcus Cousins gets heated and his threat is not to harm her with assault but goes straight to a threat of gun violence, I think speaks to what Cousins could be capable of.

I find it disgusting that he would threaten to hurt a woman, no matter how he did it. But in today's world, where words need to be watched much more closely because: mass shootings, stand your ground conceal and carry bullies, and gun violence in general, if someone as big and strong as Boogie is threatening to shoot you and not beat you, I am taking that serious.

TP ...!

[jaketwice]

WHEN you condemn Cousins - you sanction his ex's actions. Who was the worse actor in this situation? She was. A wedding is a once in a lifetime promise to become a family. She took the experience of that joining from her son. She basically told her son: you are not a part of your father's family. What does that do to him? Cousins had the better part of th argument on every level.

I am always surprised by both the hypocrisy and the lack of imagination possessed by the condemnatory masses. I mean - first of all: how cowardly to bandwagon on condemnation. You don't think you personally could be caught in your worst moment? Wouldn't you want the circumstances considered if it were you? But look at how ready you are to deny others the possible gravity of the moment.

Here you have evidence that this woman is attacking Cousins at the heart of everything that truly matters: his relationship with his son. His relationship with his future wife. And his relationship with his family of origin - who are all wondering: where is the kid? Is your imagination so tiny? Are you so incapable of putting yourself in the shoes of another that you can't imagine the hurt? This is to say nothing of his thoughts for his son.

Or, are you such blind societal animals that it doesn't even occur to you to think through the circumstances. How many of you even read the ESPN article and learned the facts surrounding the incident?

Finally - are you all prepared to swear (not here on the Internet where everyone has a six pack a giant penis and a million dollars) that you've NEVER spoken in anger? You've never said something you regret?

He's on the PHONE. He's miles and miles away. Let's be real black culture has this bravado tough talking element to it. Does anyone reasonably believe he meant what he said? And it does matter - for all the weakling police who are going to say "you can't say this or that!" Context is important if all that's involved are mere words.

I've always hated Demarcus Cousins. And I still do. I rejoiced when he was out of the league for a little bit. But more than I hate him I reject internet mobism. Think.

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WHEN you condemn Cousins - you sanction his ex's actions. Who was the worse actor in this situation? She was. A wedding is a once in a lifetime promise to become a family. She took the experience of that joining from her son. She basically told her son: you are not a part of your father's family. What does that do to him? Cousins had the better part of th argument on every level.

I am always surprised by both the hypocrisy and the lack of imagination possessed by the condemnatory masses. I mean - first of all: how cowardly to bandwagon on condemnation. You don't think you personally could be caught in your worst moment? Wouldn't you want the circumstances considered if it were you? But look at how ready you are to deny others the possible gravity of the moment.

Here you have evidence that this woman is attacking Cousins at the heart of everything that truly matters: his relationship with his son. His relationship with his future wife. And his relationship with his family of origin - who are all wondering: where is the kid? Is your imagination so tiny? Are you so incapable of putting yourself in the shoes of another that you can't imagine the hurt? This is to say nothing of his thoughts for his son.

Or, are you such blind societal animals that it doesn't even occur to you to think through the circumstances. How many of you even read the ESPN article and learned the facts surrounding the incident?

Finally - are you all prepared to swear (not here on the Internet where everyone has a six pack a giant penis and a million dollars) that you've NEVER spoken in anger? You've never said something you regret?

He's on the PHONE. He's miles and miles away. Let's be real black culture has this bravado tough talking element to it. Does anyone reasonably believe he meant what he said? And it does matter - for all the weakling police who are going to say "you can't say this or that!" Context is important if all that's involved are mere words.

I've always hated Demarcus Cousins. And I still do. I rejoiced when he was out of the league for a little bit. But more than I hate him I reject internet mobism. Think.

When some of us condemn Cousin's words / actions, it absolutely DOESN'T mean we sanction anyone else's actions.  I don't how you make that leap of logic, but it makes no sense whatsoever and it is false.  The fact is you, nor anyone on here know what the whole story is.  But...we do know that Cousins threatened to kill the kid's mom.  We do know that Cousins has a history of anger issues and violent outbursts in the NBA.  Combine the two and it is a scary situation for the mom and their kid.  Just glossing over that part and throwing a pity party for Demarcus Cousins seems like missing the point.

As someone who has been the kid in the middle of a nasty custody battle, I think you are wrong here.  His father threatened to kill his mother with a bullet to her head.  You can poo poo that statement all you want, but kids (like all of us) are affected by words.  They matter, a lot.  Everyone of that kid's friends is going to have heard that now.  Being dragged into his Dad's poor behavior, and an ongoing violent custody battle is way way worse on the kid than missing his Dad's wedding to another woman.

If you are the mom, are you going to want your son going to that wedding after they guy threatened to kill you?  Are you ever going to feel safe with your son spending time with his dad after that?

[gouki88]

WHEN you condemn Cousins - you sanction his ex's actions.

Literal nonsense

[jaketwice]

WHEN you condemn Cousins - you sanction his ex's actions.

Literal nonsense

Explain yourself.

[gouki88]

WHEN you condemn Cousins - you sanction his ex's actions.

Literal nonsense

Explain yourself.

It's just absolutely nonsensical. Condemning one party doesn't mean you endorse the opposite party by default at all. I don't know how you can seriously propose that.

I disagreed with the manner in which the international community ousted Gaddafi. That doesn't mean I was chummy with him.

[fairweatherfan]

WHEN you condemn Cousins - you sanction his ex's actions. Who was the worse actor in this situation? She was. A wedding is a once in a lifetime promise to become a family. She took the experience of that joining from her son. She basically told her son: you are not a part of your father's family. What does that do to him? Cousins had the better part of th argument on every level.

I am always surprised by both the hypocrisy and the lack of imagination possessed by the condemnatory masses. I mean - first of all: how cowardly to bandwagon on condemnation. You don't think you personally could be caught in your worst moment? Wouldn't you want the circumstances considered if it were you? But look at how ready you are to deny others the possible gravity of the moment.

Here you have evidence that this woman is attacking Cousins at the heart of everything that truly matters: his relationship with his son. His relationship with his future wife. And his relationship with his family of origin - who are all wondering: where is the kid? Is your imagination so tiny? Are you so incapable of putting yourself in the shoes of another that you can't imagine the hurt? This is to say nothing of his thoughts for his son.

Or, are you such blind societal animals that it doesn't even occur to you to think through the circumstances. How many of you even read the ESPN article and learned the facts surrounding the incident?

Finally - are you all prepared to swear (not here on the Internet where everyone has a six pack a giant penis and a million dollars) that you've NEVER spoken in anger? You've never said something you regret?

He's on the PHONE. He's miles and miles away. Let's be real black culture has this bravado tough talking element to it. Does anyone reasonably believe he meant what he said? And it does matter - for all the weakling police who are going to say "you can't say this or that!" Context is important if all that's involved are mere words.

I've always hated Demarcus Cousins. And I still do. I rejoiced when he was out of the league for a little bit. But more than I hate him I reject internet mobism. Think.

Have you thought on the fact that you have the most condemnatory takes here by far? Like it's not close. Is the idea that it's only bad to be condemnatory if people agree with you?


I'm comfortable with the woman being a jerk too - though if he IS abusive she would have cause - and I'm comfortable with him having a right to be mad about it. None of it makes it fine and dandy to tell your child's mother you're going to put a bullet through her brain. At all.