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Best Starting 5
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Best Rotation
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Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« on: August 04, 2019, 04:38:46 PM »

Offline __ramonezy__

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I'm looking at our projected starting 5 and its clear that people are simply trying to get the best players on the court... but is putting Gordon at the 4 best for him or the team? Clearly he's one of our more talented players and I can see the intrigue of having all our studs start, but the team feels unbalanced.

In the Eastern conference that will have him matched up against the Horfords, Giannises, Siakams, Ibakas of the world.

Aren't we more balanced moving Tatum to the 2nd unit, having Gordon play the 3 and starting a Semi/Theis?

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2019, 05:42:14 PM »

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I'm looking at our projected starting 5 and its clear that people are simply trying to get the best players on the court... but is putting Gordon at the 4 best for him or the team? Clearly he's one of our more talented players and I can see the intrigue of having all our studs start, but the team feels unbalanced.

In the Eastern conference that will have him matched up against the Horfords, Giannises, Siakams, Ibakas of the world.

Aren't we more balanced moving Tatum to the 2nd unit, having Gordon play the 3 and starting a Semi/Theis?
You let your best players have the symbolism that they are the best by starting them and quickly go to the bench to have the best rotation.

If after 3-4 minutes of the first and third periods, Stevens is sitting Hayward and Brown and brings in Theis and Smart, then continues to stagger substitutions so 2-3 starters are always on the floor, then you get the best of both worlds.

The starters get their deserved symbolic starting position and you get the best rotation. The idea that you have to have either the best players starting or the best rotation is flawed thinking. It's possible to have both.

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2019, 06:03:35 PM »

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 Couldn't agree more. Sure hope Gordon is not starting at PF because of Salary and popularity and thunder buddies with Brad.

 I want Hayward to play lead ball handler and decision maker as 6th man until he arrives.

 If Brad can stomach two bigs that can't shoot. Our Celtics think tank has devised a LONG solution to our title run.

 Starting Lineup going into Post All star break for the championship run.

 Tacko Fall
 Timelord
 Tatum
 Brown
 Kemba

Bench mob

Kanter
Theis
Hayward
Romeo Langford
Smart

 Tacko going to play 24 minutes a game.

 Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards not even mentioned but will play a role Also 7 foot Pourier.

 If I am right about Tacko. And Timelord makes his leap and really carves out a starting role. This team is looking good.

 Kemba Carsen cold be a microwave scoring duo.

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 06:20:58 PM »

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 Just use your imagination and think of that defense.
 Your not getting anything easy anywhere near the rim.

 Also Both bigs don't need the ball on offense but will score with garbage points and offensive boards.

 Meanwhile the big 3 if Kemba, Brown, Tatum can go absolutely nuts on offense which you know they would love.

 They also could take more chances on defense with those two great walls behind them.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2019, 06:24:12 PM »

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 Couldn't agree more. Sure hope Gordon is not starting at PF because of Salary and popularity and thunder buddies with Brad.

 I want Hayward to play lead ball handler and decision maker as 6th man until he arrives.

 If Brad can stomach two bigs that can't shoot. Our Celtics think tank has devised a LONG solution to our title run.

 Starting Lineup going into Post All star break for the championship run.

 Tacko Fall
 Timelord
 Tatum
 Brown
 Kemba

Bench mob

Kanter
Theis
Hayward
Romeo Langford
Smart

 Tacko going to play 24 minutes a game.

 Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards not even mentioned but will play a role Also 7 foot Pourier.

 If I am right about Tacko. And Timelord makes his leap and really carves out a starting role. This team is looking good.

 Kemba Carsen cold be a microwave scoring duo.
One of the worst offensive lineups in the league if we're started Fall and R Williams
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Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2019, 06:27:57 PM »

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 Nope. Those two are capable of getting 20 points 20 rebounds 5 blocks every night.

 Meanwhile the big 3 is avg Over 60 ppg. So that's 80.

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2019, 06:28:53 PM »

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 Couldn't agree more. Sure hope Gordon is not starting at PF because of Salary and popularity and thunder buddies with Brad.

 I want Hayward to play lead ball handler and decision maker as 6th man until he arrives.

 If Brad can stomach two bigs that can't shoot. Our Celtics think tank has devised a LONG solution to our title run.

 Starting Lineup going into Post All star break for the championship run.

 Tacko Fall
 Timelord
 Tatum
 Brown
 Kemba

Bench mob

Kanter
Theis
Hayward
Romeo Langford
Smart

 Tacko going to play 24 minutes a game.

 Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards not even mentioned but will play a role Also 7 foot Pourier.

 If I am right about Tacko. And Timelord makes his leap and really carves out a starting role. This team is looking good.

 Kemba Carsen cold be a microwave scoring duo.
Please don’t rip on brad for the bigs he plays and then turnaround and suggest Tacko Fall and Robert Williams as a starting frontcourt.

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2019, 06:35:04 PM »

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 Couldn't agree more. Sure hope Gordon is not starting at PF because of Salary and popularity and thunder buddies with Brad.

 I want Hayward to play lead ball handler and decision maker as 6th man until he arrives.

 If Brad can stomach two bigs that can't shoot. Our Celtics think tank has devised a LONG solution to our title run.

 Starting Lineup going into Post All star break for the championship run.

 Tacko Fall
 Timelord
 Tatum
 Brown
 Kemba

Bench mob

Kanter
Theis
Hayward
Romeo Langford
Smart

 Tacko going to play 24 minutes a game.

 Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards not even mentioned but will play a role Also 7 foot Pourier.

 If I am right about Tacko. And Timelord makes his leap and really carves out a starting role. This team is looking good.

 Kemba Carsen cold be a microwave scoring duo.
Please don’t rip on brad for the bigs he plays and then turnaround and suggest Tacko Fall and Robert Williams as a starting frontcourt.

I’m not sure in what world tacko Fall starts but I certainly don’t want to be living there.

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2019, 08:00:08 PM »

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It is certainly true that you don't necessarily play your best five in the starting line up, but you do usually play your best available player at each position. If Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward and Kanter are the starting five that does leave the Celts undersized especially on defense. On the other hand, however, there aren't that many teams that start two really good offensive bigs, and that lineup will be very hard for teams to match up against when the Celts are on offense. I tend to think that this unit will get a chance to show what it can do.

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2019, 08:11:20 PM »

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 Couldn't agree more. Sure hope Gordon is not starting at PF because of Salary and popularity and thunder buddies with Brad.

 I want Hayward to play lead ball handler and decision maker as 6th man until he arrives.

 If Brad can stomach two bigs that can't shoot. Our Celtics think tank has devised a LONG solution to our title run.

 Starting Lineup going into Post All star break for the championship run.

 Tacko Fall
 Timelord
 Tatum
 Brown
 Kemba

Bench mob

Kanter
Theis
Hayward
Romeo Langford
Smart

 Tacko going to play 24 minutes a game.

 Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards not even mentioned but will play a role Also 7 foot Pourier.

 If I am right about Tacko. And Timelord makes his leap and really carves out a starting role. This team is looking good.

 Kemba Carsen cold be a microwave scoring duo.



So last year Williams barely received any minutes at all...and this year suddenly he's a starter. (He must have had one heck of an offseason.) And Tacko...who got respect enough to almost not be drafted at all, will be our starting rookie center by the Allstar break?

Zero chance...nada...Nooooo way. LOL   


Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2019, 08:48:14 PM »

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I think you start your best unit because that is what you are going to need in the playoffs when the rotations shrink and tighten.  And the reality is the 3 of the 4 best players on this team are best suited to play SF, so you are never going to get a tight rotation so you might as well figure out if Walker, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, and Kanter can actually work.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2019, 09:31:01 PM »

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 Nope. Those two are capable of getting 20 points 20 rebounds 5 blocks every night.

 Meanwhile the big 3 is avg Over 60 ppg. So that's 80.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2019, 01:04:30 AM »

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 Nope. Those two are capable of getting 20 points 20 rebounds 5 blocks every night.

 Meanwhile the big 3 is avg Over 60 ppg. So that's 80.

Yeah, Williams III and Fall are walking double-doubles.

Horrid idea to start either one, laughable to start both.
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Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2019, 02:00:23 AM »

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 Tacko Fall
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 Brown
 Kemba


I am sorry, I love Tacko, but the guy will struggle to make our 15 man roster let alone start on a contending team. He has so much to improve that I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Europe to play for a few years before coming back to the NBA.

People compare him to Boban, but Boban can shoot and hit free throws...and even he played in Europe for almost 10 years before getting a spot from the Spurs.

Re: Best Starting 5 vs Best Rotation?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2019, 04:55:02 AM »

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Start ths game with your best five players and if they play good enough other teams will have to match up to face you. If something isn't working than you make a substitution. It's pretty simple and effective so long as the coach picks up on things quickly to make adjustments.