Indiana connections

[rollie mass]

The two most notable players that Indiana fan base would love are Gordon Hayward and Romeo Langsford.

After just arriving home Romeo shows up at young boys mothers funeral to give him support
.Romeo for President.

[Eddie20]

Really? I thought Romeo wasn’t a fan favorite because he underperformed. Regardless, I’m pretty sure Oladipo heads the list, playing  for the Hoosiers and now Pacers. Cody Zeller is another guy that playing high school ball in Indiana and then gave the Hoosiers some good years.

[rollie mass]

"Really"-Oladipo is already on their roster. " Regardless", this pertains to Celtic players  not Cody Zeller.
 I only raised this as they might put a premium on our two players in case things don't work out.
Did he really under perform or was it ligament damage to his thumb and a rather mediocre team around him.
His popularity was so high but there are always people like you that want to overlook that he was one of the best finishers in country through contact.  And of course this injury would effect a three point shot or lead to some unforced turnovers-i saw them on tape as he lost control of ball.
So you are saying Indiana wouldn't covet Hayward or Langston for their Indiana ties?

[Eddie20]

You never specified that this was about Celtics players.

Underperforming because of injury, teammates, coaching, lunar orbit, etc. is still underperformance. You’re just offering excuses.

Langford could end up being really good, he could bust, or he could be Nick Young 2.0 journeyman, but hyping him up based on his lone collegiate year accomplishes little. This is what you do yearly, though. Overhype the shiny new toy (Nader, Semi, Timelord) based on results from college and/or the g-league not on actual NBA level results.

[greenrunsdeep41]

You never specified that this was about Celtics players.

Underperforming because of injury, teammates, coaching, lunar orbit, etc. is still underperformance. You’re just offering excuses.

Langford could end up being really good, he could bust, or he could be Nick Young 2.0 journeyman, but hyping him up based on his lone collegiate year accomplishes little. This is what you do yearly, though. Overhype the shiny new toy (Nader, Semi, Timelord) based on results from college and/or the g-league not on actual NBA level results.

Easy, Eddie. Rollie is royalty around here BECAUSE of his blind faith and optimism. When he does get negative, you know ish has hit the fan I.e. the Kyrie debacle.

[rollie mass]

No need to specify this is a Celtics board  and how did i hype Romeo.You claim you were a player and a torn ligament in the thumb area will surely effect ones shooting and dribbling, as it was his strong hand.
In this post i was alluding to trade values being higher to the Pacers.

He had rock star status after winning state title -one of top recruits and choose to stay in Indiana.You choose to say he under performed i claim he was injured played through pain,didn't have a very good team around him and he still was one of the best finishers in country and averaged 16 points as an 18 year old with a wrapped up hand
I think you  have the problem. -he was figured to go lottery top 5 before this season and the Celtics who are better informed have watched him for a couple years.They drafted him 14 for a reason.
You claim to have been a player he never even told anyone-he was made to play football to toughen him up  by his father who groomed him to be stoic.
.I have never compared him to anyone and only have reported his finishing ability which was super elite only as a response to a James Young reference.
You have a high pitched voice for a bully.I listened to you and poster who you feuded with in print for years and you were all patty cakes and you rolled over.

[Silky]

I would trade romeo amd hayward to the pacers for turner and warren.

Save money.
Add a good young defensive floor spacing center
Add scoring from the bench.

[Eddie20]

According to LeBatard, the C’s actually wanted Herro and were said to be really disappointed when he went #13. His ability to shoot and space the floor at the moment, is what the C’s are hoping Langford could do down the road.

[RockinRyA]

No need to specify this is a Celtics board  and how did i hype Romeo.You claim you were a player and a torn ligament in the thumb area will surely effect ones shooting and dribbling, as it was his strong hand.
In this post i was alluding to trade values being higher to the Pacers.

He had rock star status after winning state title -one of top recruits and choose to stay in Indiana.You choose to say he under performed i claim he was injured played through pain,didn't have a very good team around him and he still was one of the best finishers in country and averaged 16 points as an 18 year old with a wrapped up hand
I think you  have the problem. -he was figured to go lottery top 5 before this season and the Celtics who are better informed have watched him for a couple years.They drafted him 14 for a reason.
You claim to have been a player he never even told anyone-he was made to play football to toughen him up  by his father who groomed him to be stoic.
.I have never compared him to anyone and only have reported his finishing ability which was super elite only as a response to a James Young reference.
You have a high pitched voice for a bully.I listened to you and poster who you feuded with in print for years and you were all patty cakes and you rolled over.

He underperformed, whatever the reasons are, he underperformed.

[Hoopvortex]

Overhype the shiny new toy (Nader, Semi, Timelord) based on results from college and/or the g-league not on actual NBA level results.

Not interested in getting in the middle of this dispute, just commenting on those players.

Those three you mention all look like they'll have long careers - even Nader, who got significantly more court time in OKC last year (played in 61 games on low-rotation minutes). He'll get an opportunity this upcoming season with all the team turnover. He has some skills with the ball on quite a little repertoire of various flips and floaters in the lane. Good hands, good length.  Only .320 from the arc, though on 100 attempts, so only three or four more makes would give a very different picture (shot .354 the year before, so probably can get to a decent lifetime average).  Upside.

Ojeleye seems to be something of a lightning rod for a lot of posters, and he's as likely to be left out of their rotation projections as included.  Not sure I understand that - he is advancing nicely, should earn some minutes this season. The big jumps in his year two were finishing (shot an outstanding .721 at the rim) and team defense.  The Celtics re-upped him for next season, and with the departure of Marcus Morris he has his best opportunity yet in the upcoming season. Is his upside "starter on a contender"? Maybe. I'm more confident claiming "rotation player on a contender".  In this league, opportunity is bigger than talent, maybe even bigger than work ethic.

Timelord will take some time to develop. But I'm predicting that he'll be in the rotation after the All-Star break. The opportunity for him is wide open, and he's raw but gifted.

[rollie mass]

According to LeBatard, the C’s actually wanted Herro and were said to be really disappointed when he went #13. His ability to shoot and space the floor at the moment, is what the C’s are hoping Langford could do down the road.

Is  LeBatard talk show Miami based and didn't Miami draft Herro? Therefore, Miami would put out they got the player the Celts wanted or needed.Maybe true or not but you will grasp at any straw and talk shows either criticize or embellish for pay and effect.
Tommy Heinsohn predicted  in his penciled notes before the draft, Romeo as  the Celts draft choice.
This was shown in a Tommy and Gorman post draft show.

There are those who claimed if Romeo had that operation and not played he could have gone top 5.
He never told anyone or complained.Under performed as a 3 pt shooter while excelling at finishing
 I would call an injury this type limiting and a reason not an excuse -He may have actually over performed with this significant injury to shooting hand.
It all is about  expectations and without the knowledge or extent of injury people easily can make wrong assumptions during the season-Most of these analysts have him dropping due to his performance but now add that he played injured'
Size elite only three NBA SG taller Derozen,Thompson Butler
Wingspan elite-6-11
Finishing at rim elite
Drawing personal fouls very high level
Anybody that has played with a sprained wrist or any king of finger injury knows how this effects shooting and controlling dribbling..
Nobody has seen this kid going against NBA talent or healthy for that matter.
To even insinuate bust or James Young comparisons is jumping the gun.
High character
Works hard
Stays level
Smart kid (mathematics)
Teammates liked him
Celtics picked him
Position in demand
Good family
LOVES basketball

[ederson]

The same was said about Jared Sullinger......... i dont think anyone misses him

[moiso]

I thought it was Scal who overheard Celtics officials having a tantrum after Herro was picked... is that not true?

I'm really not sure what my opinion of the Langford pick is right now but I wasn't very happy initially.  As far as Tommy predicting we would draft Langford- does it really matter?  I doubt he even truly knew who Langford was at that time.  I'm sure he did some research as the draft approached just like a lot of posters here.  I'm sure plenty of posters followed him a lot more closely and watched more of his college games than Tommy.

[Hoopvortex]

I heard that Danny Ainge excused himself, went into the bathroom, and buried his head in his hands when Zion Williamson didn’t fall to the Celtics, while Austin Ainge was visibly upset and nearly threw his Boston Celtics official merchandise coffee mug against a wall, muttering through clenched teeth, “Dear God, why do we never have a Plan B?”

As the janitor relaxed his grip on the mop and the Boston brass slumped in their chairs, Wyc Grousbeck, ever the optimist, gave a word of encouragement.

“At least Ja Morant is still available.”

[rollie mass]

I'm not a fan of short wingspans and Tyler Herro is 6-5 with a 6-3 wingspan.That's a disadvantage defensively and Romeo is at 6-11.
Herro weighs 195
Romeo at 215 finished high school at 195, Indiana coach wanted him heavier .He worked out hard with a trainer.It worked.
Romeo out scored him with essentially a cast on his thumb.
Big 10 Freshman of year
Led the Big 10 in freshmen scoring and finished 6th nationally for freshmen scoring 16.5 ppg.
Was one of the top finishers in country.
All done with a torn ligament-Romeo says nobody has seen what he can do.
No hype, no excuses just facts And a bias toward elite wingspans and inside scoring and drawing fouls while finishing through contact- one of the best in country .

Led Big 10 as freshman high scorer finished 6th in scoring Big 10
AllBig 10 second team.
One of top freshman scorers in country (major colleges)



I think Semmi has suffered from his lack of a large wingspan.