Celtics win total set at 49.5 by Vegas

[Alleyoopster]

Celtics lost 3 of their more reliable shooters....way under. 35-40. 

[rondofan1255]

I voted under.

Celtics lost 3 of their more reliable shooters....way under. 35-40.

Kemba's Hornets W-L record fwiw:

2018-19: 39 wins
2017-18: 36
2016-17: 36
2015-16: 48
2014-15: 33
2013-14: 43
2012-13: 21
2011-12: 7

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/

[Who]

Looks a fair number to me.

I went with 48 wins so I'll take the under.

[GreenFaith1819]

I'd give us low 50's at least.

I'd give Indy right around 50 wins - if not more, though. They will have one of the best back courts in the NBA with Oladipo and Brogdon.

Indy will be a DEEP team, too. Well-coached. They are my dark horse, right after us.

[PhoSita]

50 wins seems like the optimistic-yet-reasonable outcome to predict. 

I would probably take the under, just because of what could go wrong.  But 50 wins seems very realistic given how weak the bottom third of the conference is.

[slamtheking]

BTW, here are all the lines

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/07/nba-win-totals-over-under-bets-2019-20-season

Atl 33.5
Bos 49.5
Bkn 44.5
Cha 23.5
Chi 33.5
Cle 24.5
Dal 39.5
Den 52.5
Det 37.5
GS 48.5
Hou 54.5
Ind 46.5
LAC 54.5
LAL 49.5
Mem 26.5
Mia 43.5
Mil 58.5
Min 34.5
NO 38.5
NY 28.5
OKC 30.5
Orl 41.5
Phi 55.5
Phx 29.5
Por 45.5
Sac 37.5
SA 46.5
Tor 46.5
Uta 54.5
Wsh 27.5

Here they are by win total

Mil 58.5
Phi 55.5
Uta 54.5, LAC 54.5, Hou 54.5
Den 52.5
Bos 49.5, LAL 49.5
GS 48.5
Ind 46.5, SA 46.5, Tor 46.5
Por 45.5
Bkn 44.5
Mia 43.5
Orl 41.5
Dal 39.5
NO 38.5
Det 37.5, Sac 37.5
Min 34.5
Atl 33.5, Chi 33.5
OKC 30.5
Phx 29.5
NY 28.5
Wsh 27.5
Mem 26.5
Cle 24.5
Cha 23.5

TP for the info.   further breakdown by conference and win totals

Eastern (C's as third best in the East is a pleasant surprise from the oddsmakers)
Mil 58.5
Phi 55.5
Bos 49.5
Tor 46.5
Ind 46.5
Bkn 44.5
Mia 43.5
Orl 41.5
----PLAYOFF CUTOFF-----
Det 37.5
Atl 33.5
Chi 33.5
NY 28.5
Wsh 27.5
Cle 24.5
Cha 23.5

West
Hou 54.5
LAC 54.5
Uta 54.5
Den 52.5
LAL 49.5
GS 48.5
SA 46.5
Por 45.5
----PLAYOFF CUTOFF-----
Dal 39.5
NO 38.5
Sac 37.5
Min 34.5
OKC 30.5
Phx 29.5
Mem 26.5

Interesting they predict enough crappy teams such that it's possible that the Memphis pick could convey this coming draft.  also can't help but laugh that they don't think Rozier is going to save Charlotte from being the bottom feeder this coming season

[footey]

We really seemed to struggle against non-playoff teams last year.  I think that will change this season.

[blink]

50 wins seems like the optimistic-yet-reasonable outcome to predict. 

I would probably take the under, just because of what could go wrong.  But 50 wins seems very realistic given how weak the bottom third of the conference is.

yeah I think this win total is more about the bad teams in the bottom of the east than it is about the C's.

It is usually shocking how close some of the vegas oddsmakers are...so 45-50 wins I think is reasonable.

[Moranis]

50 wins seems like the optimistic-yet-reasonable outcome to predict. 

I would probably take the under, just because of what could go wrong.  But 50 wins seems very realistic given how weak the bottom third of the conference is.

yeah I think this win total is more about the bad teams in the bottom of the east than it is about the C's.

It is usually shocking how close some of the vegas oddsmakers are...so 45-50 wins I think is reasonable.

They have Orlando winning less games then they did last year and they are basically the same team (and a young one so presumably they will improve).  Brooklyn they have as barely improving despite at least on paper getting a fair amount better (Irving, Jordan, Prince, Chandler, Temple > Russell, Crabbe, Carroll, Dudley, Davis).  So it seems the weak bottom only applies to Boston.  It just seems very strange.

[tstorey_97]

Young Celtics team + Brad Stevens + ECF = over

I've got 56.5

Tie with Bucks...win on head to head.

[blink]

50 wins seems like the optimistic-yet-reasonable outcome to predict. 

I would probably take the under, just because of what could go wrong.  But 50 wins seems very realistic given how weak the bottom third of the conference is.

yeah I think this win total is more about the bad teams in the bottom of the east than it is about the C's.

It is usually shocking how close some of the vegas oddsmakers are...so 45-50 wins I think is reasonable.

They have Orlando winning less games then they did last year and they are basically the same team (and a young one so presumably they will improve).  Brooklyn they have as barely improving despite at least on paper getting a fair amount better (Irving, Jordan, Prince, Chandler, Temple > Russell, Crabbe, Carroll, Dudley, Davis).  So it seems the weak bottom only applies to Boston.  It just seems very strange.

They have Orlando winning only 0.5 games less while they have Brooklyn improving by 2 games.  Orlando was a borderline playoff team to begin with. 

Orlando only added the mystery man Markelle Fultz and a first round draft pick that can't play because he blew out his ACL last spring.  None of those teams moved much from last year with Brooklyn moving the most.  The nets will probably be better, but they were a sneaky good team last year, overlooked pretty much the whole year.  They won't have that advantage this year with Kyrie. 

Also, they only have Boston at 0.5 more wins than last year.  I think you are nitpicking, and these predictions seem pretty reasonable to me.  Maybe we win 47/48 games....I think they are in the ballpark.

[celticsclay]

50 wins seems like the optimistic-yet-reasonable outcome to predict. 

I would probably take the under, just because of what could go wrong.  But 50 wins seems very realistic given how weak the bottom third of the conference is.

yeah I think this win total is more about the bad teams in the bottom of the east than it is about the C's.

It is usually shocking how close some of the vegas oddsmakers are...so 45-50 wins I think is reasonable.

They have Orlando winning less games then they did last year and they are basically the same team (and a young one so presumably they will improve).  Brooklyn they have as barely improving despite at least on paper getting a fair amount better (Irving, Jordan, Prince, Chandler, Temple > Russell, Crabbe, Carroll, Dudley, Davis).  So it seems the weak bottom only applies to Boston.  It just seems very strange.

I am not sure how young Orlando is, at least in terms of players that will improve next year specifically.

Their top 5 players in minutes were Vucevic, Ross, Fournier, Gordon and Augustin. All of those guys were over 28 minutes per game. I think it is safe to say Vucevic, Fournier, Augstine and Ross are not going to make big leaps because of their age (all 26 or over). Even Gordon at 23 has been a pretty similar player the last few years.
They definitely have some wild cards in Fultz, Bamba and Isaac, but I don't think anyone would expect those guys to play over 25 minutes.

On the flip side it seems like we obviously expect Brown and Tatum to play over 30 minutes a game next year and be in line for pretty steady improvements...   

[Walker Wiggle]

Not to get too off topic, but I'm laughing at LAL at 49.5 and BKN at 44.5.

[tazzmaniac]

We really seemed to struggle against non-playoff teams last year.  I think that will change this season.

Our record against below .500 teams was 32-8.  On the other hand against the .500 and above teams, our record was 17-25. 

[mctyson]

I am predicting 52, with a low of 48 and a high of 55.