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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2019, 12:03:26 PM »

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I know it goes against Brad's philosophy of team building, but Marcus should be made team captain.

  Please god. No.

With Horford gone, he's unquestionably the leader of the team and with his work ethic and passion, there's no one else I'd rather it be.
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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2019, 02:13:05 PM »

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 To me it has to be Kemba or things could fall apart quickly again. Kemba’s been a great leader his whole career. Marcus’s effort on the court is great but skill, temperament and basketball IQ is why I’d be really surprised it would be anybody but him. But I respect others opinion and realize that most of Boston would likely want Smart to be captain.

Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2019, 07:16:42 PM »

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I think Marcus is the only one who can be Alpha and back it up and lead .  He is a natural leader.....the best ones lead by example , nobody gives as much effort , not with lip,service like Kryie .  Who should have just plain never said anything ,  team would have been better off.

Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2019, 07:39:37 PM »

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It seems to me that the player who talks about Marcus being a leader the most is Marcus.  Self-promotion is seldom a good thing.  Until he stops taking bad hero shots and forcing hero passes he is not a desirable leader.  I see Marcus as having a lot of Ron Artest in him?  Not really a captain/leader.
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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2019, 08:36:34 PM »

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I know it goes against Brad's philosophy of team building, but Marcus should be made team captain.

  Please god. No.

With Horford gone, he's unquestionably the leader of the team and with his work ethic and passion, there's no one else I'd rather it be.

I’m sympathetic to your point of view and share your estimation of his leadership - and despite mistakes he’s made earlier in his career.

Having said that I believe that having one Leader is less effective than a culture of leadership. Jaylen accepting his role to come off the bench, giving his all without a word of complaint... that’s leadership. Ojeleye’s superhuman work ethic... leadership. Brad taking responsibility for everything that didn’t work... leadership. And, Smart going on The Jump and standing up for his guys... that, too, is leadership.
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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2019, 01:18:11 AM »

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It was a case of too many good players and not enough great ones.

Celts had 7 players last season who deserved to be starters.

But only 5 can start a basketball game.

The 2008 Celtics won a championship because players know their roles.

Last season's Celtics was like a tryout, players trying to prove they deserve more minutes and shots.

And who allowed that to fester?

If we're going to blame someone for last year's mess, blame Danny Ainge.

I'm a fan of Danny Ainge, but last season he was all in on Anthony Davis and it backfired.

Ainge could have done something, like trade Rozier or Morris, but Ainge didn't want to sacrifice any of the assets and cap flexibility.

The Celts were playing to win the Anthony Davis sweepstakes last season.

I am thinking the coach let it fester, or was he not in charge?
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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2019, 03:35:33 PM »

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I know it goes against Brad's philosophy of team building, but Marcus should be made team captain.

  Please god. No.

With Horford gone, he's unquestionably the leader of the team and with his work ethic and passion, there's no one else I'd rather it be.

I’m sympathetic to your point of view and share your estimation of his leadership - and despite mistakes he’s made earlier in his career.

Having said that I believe that having one Leader is less effective than a culture of leadership. Jaylen accepting his role to come off the bench, giving his all without a word of complaint... that’s leadership. Ojeleye’s superhuman work ethic... leadership. Brad taking responsibility for everything that didn’t work... leadership. And, Smart going on The Jump and standing up for his guys... that, too, is leadership.

I don't think having a captain makes it harder to establish a culture or leadership. Look at the Duncan Spurs. Those were teams full of people who took responsibility for themselves but it all stemmed from Duncan. Most great teams had a top dog leader who set the tone.
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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2019, 05:19:18 PM »

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To me it has to be Kemba or things could fall apart quickly again. Kemba’s been a great leader his whole career.

I hear this a lot but I personally have my doubts.   He has been really productive on bad teams.  He had lead his teams  to the playoffs twice in what eight or nine years and both times were first round exits.  So what are folks basing this on?

I hope I am wrong though.

Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2019, 05:40:08 PM »

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To me it has to be Kemba or things could fall apart quickly again. Kemba’s been a great leader his whole career.

I hear this a lot but I personally have my doubts.   He has been really productive on bad teams.  He had lead his teams  to the playoffs twice in what eight or nine years and both times were first round exits.  So what are folks basing this on?

I hope I am wrong though.
Not sure this has anything to do with leadership.  Most of Charlotte's lack of success is because MJ has turned out to be a rather lousy GM/owner.

IMO, Smart is the best choice for Captain, and he is not even projected to be a starter.

Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2019, 06:14:20 AM »

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Not sure this has anything to do with leadership.  Most of Charlotte's lack of success is because MJ has turned out to be a rather lousy GM/owner.

As I stated people keep talking about this leadership and I asked for tangible examples and I still waiting for the answer.   

BTW, I think winning a playoff series requires some leadership.

Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2019, 08:15:03 AM »

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Not sure this has anything to do with leadership.  Most of Charlotte's lack of success is because MJ has turned out to be a rather lousy GM/owner.

As I stated people keep talking about this leadership and I asked for tangible examples and I still waiting for the answer.   

BTW, I think winning a playoff series requires some leadership.

He won an NCAA championship even though they weren't the favorite.
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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2019, 10:21:33 AM »

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Not sure this has anything to do with leadership.  Most of Charlotte's lack of success is because MJ has turned out to be a rather lousy GM/owner.

As I stated people keep talking about this leadership and I asked for tangible examples and I still waiting for the answer.   

BTW, I think winning a playoff series requires some leadership.

He won an NCAA championship even though they weren't the favorite.

Furthermore that year he willed his team to win 5 games in 5 days to claim the Big East Championship, again not favored. The only other NBA "talent" on the roster that year was Shabazz Napier and Jeremy Lamb, both freshman at the time.

Edit: Here is an article from College coach Jim Calhoun, where he speaks of Kemba's leadershi.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/jim-calhoun-kemba-walker-would-make-celtics-young-players-better

Celtics4ever can stop waiting now...

Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2019, 10:26:19 AM »

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Roster construction during Kemba's time in Charlotte was pretty atrocious.  Who was his best teammate in that time? Jefferson? Batum? Henderson?  Doesn't exactly scream recipe for success.    Seems that past teammates have spoke glowingly about Walker and I don't recall any drama centered around him or locker room strife.  Seems like a good enough kid.


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Re: Smart on ‘The Jump’, “We were dysfunctional”
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2019, 05:26:04 AM »

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After hearing Marcus’ comments I worry again about this year. I don’t see how the pieces fit together any better than they did last year, and you’ll have Jaylen (the one guy who did figure it out) going into a contract year and wanting to show he can create, while Jayson wants to be an all-star and his clearest path is by scoring a lot. Both of them will be playing next to Kemba (all-NBA scorer) and Hayward (former 20+ ppg all-star with something to prove). Even if Enes is content getting his points in the pick and roll and converting offensive rebounds (is he?), I’m not sure how it works out better than last year. And did I mention  we drafted a score-first wing with our late-lottery pick?

As much as I like Kemba Walker and am so happy he is here instead of Irving, I would have preferred the Celtics finding a playmaking point guard instead of an isolation scorer like Walker. The strength of this team is our wings with three players of All-Star caliber ability. Why not focus on ball movement and letting those guys score within the offense ? We could have used the extra money for more help in the post or to have kept Baynes.
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