What does your ideal second unit look like next season?

[IDreamCeltics]

Carsen Edwards
Marcus Smurt
Semi Ojeleye
Robert Williams
French Big Man

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[hwangjini_1]

i would like to see jaylen come off the bench. he was effective last year i thought. also, i think no later than by mid-season GW will part of the rotation for the celtics.

[Silky]

Bench is

Edwards
Langford
Hayward
Williams
Porier

Youth and a willie vet in hayward. Got sparkplug scoring and defense.

Allows Hayward to be completly loose and run the show, which puts him in his best position to succeed

[PhoSita]

Smart as the sixth man

Carsen Edwards getting a few minutes here and there to do his waterbug scoring thing

Semi getting minutes at the 3 & 4 depending on matchups

Langford getting a few minutes on the wing against the opponent's bench

Theis playing regular minutes at the 4 and 5

Grant Williams getting some decent minutes at the 4 depending on matchups

Poirier getting some minutes at the 5 depending on matchups

Rob Williams and Tremont Waters in garbage time

[SHAQATTACK]

like my second wife













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[OldSchoolDude]

PG: Smart
SG: Langford
SF: G. Will
PF: Theis
C: Poirier

As good as Edwards was in summer league the Celtics picked Langford first for a reason, and they are really excited about him as a player.  Also,  he played his whole college season with the busted hand and was still really good. 

I think G will will end up being a beast at power forward but right now while he's getting stronger small forward might be a good spot to get some minutes, he's shown that he can shoot the three and he can handle the ball and make the right play.

[Celtics4ever]

Carsen Edwards
Carsen Edwards
Carsen Edwards
Carsen Edwards
Carsen Edwards

[RodyTur10]

That really depends on how my ideal first unit looks like. I think Hayward and Kanter will be more effective when their offensive opportunities aren't possibly marginalized by Walker/Tatum/Brown, so I have them in the second unit. Theis is also a regular rotation player for me, since he has proven to be very good against other bench units. Smart is in there as well and let's say Edwards gets some minutes next to him.

PG: Smart
SG: Edwards
SF: Hayward
PF: Theis
C: Kanter

(starters: Kemba, Unicorn Slasher, Tatum, Semi or G.Will, Timelord or Poirier)

[ETNCeltics]

Smart
Edwards
Theis
G. Williams
Poirier

There really is no "2nd unit". It'll be a mix after the first half quarter, and in most cases, Smart will be on the floor at the end of the game. Brown is starting over Smart, and Hayward is starting over whatever random PF anyone wants to insert.

IMO, Langford will have a ways to go before being ready to play.

Brad will trim the big men down to whichever of Poirier or Theis is most useful/healthy. Would be awesome if - with his size - Poirier is able to come to camp and simply be too good to not be on the floor. 

[nickagneta]

My ideal 2nd unit wouldn't be littered with inexperienced NBA youth, many of which have never played a second in the NBA. So for this year, I don't have an ideal 2nd unit.

[RodyTur10]

My ideal 2nd unit wouldn't be littered with inexperienced NBA youth, many of which have never played a second in the NBA. So for this year, I don't have an ideal 2nd unit.

So put Smart, Hayward and Kanter in there to balance it out.

[zeitgeist49]

R. Ril.
Theis
G. Wil
Smart
Edwards

R. Wil. has more upside than Poirier and if R. Wil. can take the next step, this will be huge for the team. I see Edwards having a bigger impact than Langford in their rookie year.

[nickagneta]

My ideal 2nd unit wouldn't be littered with inexperienced NBA youth, many of which have never played a second in the NBA. So for this year, I don't have an ideal 2nd unit.

So put Smart, Hayward and Kanter in there to balance it out.

And stick the inexperience in the starting unit instead....yeah, that doesn't fly with me. I would have preferred Ainge put more than one good or better NBA role player on the bench. The starters of Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Hayward/Kanter is great. Excellent starting five. But after Smart, there is not one proven, above average, NBA role player on that team.

Now I think Stevens fixes this by removing Hayward and maybe Kanter out of the game with like 3 minutes gone in each half. Stevens can then bring them back late in the 1st and 3rd periods or to start the 2nd and 4th periods and play alongside Smart with two other bench players for long stretches.

But as a total unit, beyond Smart, I think this bench is extremely inexperienced and lacking ability to add much positive to this team next year. When the time comes where two starters are missing a string of games together because of injury or sickness, I think this bench will be exposed.

Hopefully I am dead wrong and rookies or almost rookies Poirier, R. Williams, G. Williams, Langford, Fall, Strus, Waters and Edwards can give this team a whole bunch of quality rotational minutes. Hopefully Theis is fully healthy and gives us more of 2018 Theis and less of 2019 Theis. Hopefully Semi develops into a real 3 and D rotational player. Hopefully Wanamaker is what he was last year at the very least.

[PhoSita]

My ideal 2nd unit wouldn't be littered with inexperienced NBA youth, many of which have never played a second in the NBA. So for this year, I don't have an ideal 2nd unit.

I get where you're coming from on that, but I don't think it's so bad.


Kemba, Jaylen, Tatum, and Hayward should hopefully all be able to play 30-32+ mpg. 

Smart is also going to get a lot of minutes, probably 28-30.  That's going to cover most of the backup guard minutes.

Kanter is going to probably play 20-24 mpg or so.  He may play more than that.  Earlier in his career he averaged 26-28 mpg.



There are some significant minutes to fill at the 5.  However, Daniel Theis is an established player with a solid amount of experience between overseas play and a couple years in the NBA.  Poirier has 0 NBA experience, but he's 25 years old and has been playing professionally overseas since 2013. 


Beyond that, we're talking about splitting up 30-35 minutes at wing / forward among all of the remaining bench guys (Semi / Langford / Edwards / Grant).



It's not an ideal scenario, to be sure, but they're not set up to have to rely on any of those unproven guys for really big minutes or a major role, unless the team is hit with big injuries.

[Csfan1984]

I've been on the record a while I hate 2nd units. I prefer a position sub in.


Assuming team starts Kemba, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Kanter

 
First Guard Smart.
First sub at Center is VP.
First Foward sub is Theis (with Tatum moving to SF).

That's my top 8 till we see how the season goes. I expect Edwards, RW and Semi to push for minutes. No faith in the rest. And by the rest I mean all the rest, don't @ me.