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Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2019, 12:01:23 PM »

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Celtics just got a steal. Wow, that is cheap $.
He's a 2nd round pick.  4.5M guaranteed may be on the high side.

Dunno what all the other figures have been this year, but Bruno Fernando 2019 #34 got 4.7M guaranteed

Claxton and Okpala (2019 #31 and #32) got three years fully guaranteed for minimum (no numbers released so not sure what $ that equates to)

Also, last yearís #33 pick Jalen Brunson received 4.3M guaranteed

#38 this year, Gafford, got 6.1 over four, first two years guaranteed.

I wouldnít call this a steal as itís the going rate for second rounders but itís a fantastic signing nonetheless.
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Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2019, 12:03:50 PM »

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Celtics just got a steal. Wow, that is cheap $.
He's a 2nd round pick.  4.5M guaranteed may be on the high side.
in today's nba you worry if $4.5 million is an overpay?  ::)  other second round picks in the same area are signing for $1.1 million to $1.5 million. this is right in that range.

good pick by ainge, good deal for both parties.
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Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2019, 12:17:24 PM »

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There is no appreciable difference in their heights. 3-4 inches at that level is not a lot.

That is an untrue statement if there ever was one.    Big Difference between a 6-8 vs a 7 foot center and a 6-1 and 6-5 guard.   There are guys who can beat the difference with skill and talent but size matters a lot in basketball.

Oh I stand by my posts... basketball as I have said countless number of times here is still a big man games and we need bigs. I am glad Danny is addressing that problem, but at the lower ebb 5'9 is not appreciably less than 6'1 especially when the 5'9 guy played had the hops of a 6'5 guy.

I still believe that on offense IT is the best comparison for Carsen (my favorite Celtic).


By the way, 6'8 vs 7'1 and 6'1 vs 6'5 is totally different from 5'9 vs 6'1.
I don't disagree about the importance of bigs, but IMHO you are drastically understating the difference between 5'9 and 6'1 even for guards. IT was constantly singled out and attacked in switches by opposing teams, because of his size he was clearly a weak link in the defense.

At 6'1 Edwards won't be as easy to attack. Look at it this way, against a 6'4 guard Edwards only gives up 3 inches, that's not too bad of a match up. IT would be giving up 7 inches, he would not even be able to bother a shot in that scenario. It's a much bigger difference than you think.

I also think the two are different with respect to strength and speed. Edwards looks to be very strong, IT was not. IT had elite quickness, Edwards looks quick, but not IT quick. They are very different players.

Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2019, 12:50:11 PM »

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Is Carsen Edwards going to be this years Clay Daniel Buchholz, or will people learn how to spell his name now that heís signed a contract?

Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2019, 01:08:02 PM »

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There is no appreciable difference in their heights. 3-4 inches at that level is not a lot.

That is an untrue statement if there ever was one.    Big Difference between a 6-8 vs a 7 foot center and a 6-1 and 6-5 guard.   There are guys who can beat the difference with skill and talent but size matters a lot in basketball.

Oh I stand by my posts... basketball as I have said countless number of times here is still a big man games and we need bigs. I am glad Danny is addressing that problem, but at the lower ebb 5'9 is not appreciably less than 6'1 especially when the 5'9 guy played had the hops of a 6'5 guy.

I still believe that on offense IT is the best comparison for Carsen (my favorite Celtic).


By the way, 6'8 vs 7'1 and 6'1 vs 6'5 is totally different from 5'9 vs 6'1.
I don't disagree about the importance of bigs, but IMHO you are drastically understating the difference between 5'9 and 6'1 even for guards. IT was constantly singled out and attacked in switches by opposing teams, because of his size he was clearly a weak link in the defense.

At 6'1 Edwards won't be as easy to attack. Look at it this way, against a 6'4 guard Edwards only gives up 3 inches, that's not too bad of a match up. IT would be giving up 7 inches, he would not even be able to bother a shot in that scenario. It's a much bigger difference than you think.

I also think the two are different with respect to strength and speed. Edwards looks to be very strong, IT was not. IT had elite quickness, Edwards looks quick, but not IT quick. They are very different players.

I wont go as far as very different but we shall see.

Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2019, 01:18:24 PM »

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Itís Carsen not Carson

Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2019, 01:28:30 PM »

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Is Carsen Edwards going to be this years Clay Daniel Buchholz, or will people learn how to spell his name now that heís signed a contract?

Carsen smarsen!
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Re: Carson Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2019, 02:59:50 PM »

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Celtics just got a steal. Wow, that is cheap $.
He's a 2nd round pick.  4.5M guaranteed may be on the high side.

Dunno what all the other figures have been this year, but Bruno Fernando 2019 #34 got 4.7M guaranteed

Claxton and Okpala (2019 #31 and #32) got three years fully guaranteed for minimum (no numbers released so not sure what $ that equates to)

Also, last yearís #33 pick Jalen Brunson received 4.3M guaranteed

#38 this year, Gafford, got 6.1 over four, first two years guaranteed.

I wouldnít call this a steal as itís the going rate for second rounders but itís a fantastic signing nonetheless.

I think his big get was the third guaranteed year because the 2 guaranteed/2 team options setup is usually what we'd try to get a 2nd rounder to do.

Re: Carsen Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2019, 03:04:57 PM »

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Congrats to him! Dude looks like a spark plug off the bench
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Re: Carsen Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2019, 03:09:07 PM »

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Congrats to him! Dude looks like a spark plug off the bench

Yes! IMO potential to quickly become an Eddie House Patty Mills hybrid  :D

Re: Carsen Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2019, 07:48:53 PM »

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Congrats to him! Dude looks like a spark plug off the bench

Yes! IMO potential to quickly become an Eddie House Patty Mills hybrid  :D

Hopefully much more Patty Mills than Eddie House

Re: Carsen Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2019, 08:14:26 PM »

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Yes! IMO potential to quickly become an Eddie House Patty Mills hybrid

He is a better shooter than either one of those guys.

Re: Carsen Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2019, 08:18:08 PM »

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Re: Carsen Edwards 4 year deal
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2019, 11:34:40 AM »

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press release

https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-2019-nba-draft-pick-carsen-edwards

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Celtics Sign 2019 NBA Draft Pick Carsen Edwards

Boston Celtics
Jul 14, 2019 10:55 AM ET

BOSTON, MA Ė The Boston Celtics have signed rookie guard Carsen Edwards, the team announced today. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Selected 33rd overall by the Celtics in the 2019 NBA Draft, Edwards capped off his three-year career at Purdue University with a dynamic junior season in 2018-19. In addition to finishing ninth in the NCAA in scoring at 24.3 points, his 874 points scored ranked third in school history for points tallied in a single season. The Atascocita, TX native also shot 39.4% from the field and drilled 135 three-pointers (35.5% 3-PT) en route to being named one of 10 finalists for the 2018-19 Naismith Trophy Ė given to the NCAA National Player of the Year.

Edwards completed a stellar run in Las Vegas at the MGM Resorts NBA Summer League 2019, where he averaged 19.4 points (47.9% FG, 46.7% 3-PT), 3.8 rebounds, 1.4 assists, and 1.0 steals in five games (two starts). The 21-year-old guard reached the 20-point mark three times, including a 25-point, 8-rebound performance in the teamís summer finale against the Grizzlies on July 13.

 

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