C's haven't reached out to brown about extension yet

[Fafnir]

J Murray 5/$170m?? Ouch.

I like Jaylen but I'd rather move him than give him anything close to that kind of money.

When did 3-4 tier players start becoming max guys?

Everyone is a max guy now it's annoying to say the least.

30 teams basically means there are 60 max contract slots.

So yeah a lot of guys who haven't gotten past borderline all-star level of play are going to get max deals.

[Th3M2n]

Based on what he has shown and produced so far he is ABSOLUTELY not worth the max.  Let’s see how he performs this year then evaluate what he is worth.

[jambr380]

J Murray 5/$170m?? Ouch.

I like Jaylen but I'd rather move him than give him anything close to that kind of money.

When did 3-4 tier players start becoming max guys?

Everyone is a max guy now it's annoying to say the least.

They wouldn't be if top level stars were actually allowed to be paid what they are worth...but then I guess the word 'max' might be a thing of the past. I agree, though, it's annoying, but necessary when teams are trying to poach very good players away from other teams.

[knuckleballer]

I d say its gonna cost Wyc a pretty penny to sign him. 

I think he would have several high paying suitors .

Thats why i think Westbrooke is in play here....i have this spidey tingle about all this

If it came to that I'd rather have Steven Adams. Heck. I'd rather have Wednesday Addams or any member of the Addams family....

We already have Lurch (Tacko).

[NKY fan]

Brown is getting the max. The question is from which team.
Danny has no idea if jaylen is worth of a max deal.
He’s probably looking into trading options for jaylen.

We will have to keep in mind that in two years the free agent class will be almost as strong as it was this year so we need to keep 40-70% of our cap space open or we will be limited on what we can do while other teams jump in front of us scooping up talent

[Kuberski33]

J Murray 5/$170m?? Ouch.

I like Jaylen but I'd rather move him than give him anything close to that kind of money.

When did 3-4 tier players start becoming max guys?

That's the going rate.  It's what Simmons has on the table in Philadelphia.  This is today's NBA for better or worse.  Teams have to take the plunge on guys who are incomplete talents.  If they're wrong, the player still gets paid and the team gets tons of cap space tied up.  Tough call coming up - which may be why Danny makes a pre-emptive move.  I hope not.  It think Brown may end up being worth locking up for a few more years.

[wdleehi]

Would the Celtics have cap space next year if Hayward was to opt out?  How much of that would be gone if they extend Brown now vs.  cap hold next year? 

Play the games and keep the possible cap to use before using bird rights to sign Brown.

[saltlover]

Brown is getting the max. The question is from which team.
Danny has no idea if jaylen is worth of a max deal.
He’s probably looking into trading options for jaylen.

We will have to keep in mind that in two years the free agent class will be almost as strong as it was this year so we need to keep 40-70% of our cap space open or we will be limited on what we can do while other teams jump in front of us scooping up talent

Kemba, Tatum’s cap hold if he isn’t extended, and 10 cap holds for having only two players if we completely cleared out books will take up more than half our cap.  It’s pretty unlikely we’ll clear the books to that extent, and accordingly it’s rather unlikely that we’ll have max room.  Accordingly, if we convince a max free agent to join, it will likely be through a sign and trade.  This last 12 days has shown us that such deals are possible if you can convince the player to come, so Ainge should not worry about holding cap space.  If Brown is maxed and a star FA wants to come to Boston, Jaylen’s contract is unlikely to get in the way

[saltlover]

Would the Celtics have cap space next year if Hayward was to opt out?  How much of that would be gone if they extend Brown now vs.  cap hold next year? 

Play the games and keep the possible cap to use before using bird rights to sign Brown.

They would likely have a number very near the MLE if Hayward opts out, so not enough to make it worth stringing Jaylen along.  If Hayward opts out AND you let Jaylen walk, you could do some things to get to a max, but is there anyone you’d like to max next summer?  It seems unlikely AD is an option.  You could probably pay Draymond Green a ton of money and get him here, but otherwise the top free agents are Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, and a bunch of restricted free agents, Jaylen included.

[wdleehi]

Would the Celtics have cap space next year if Hayward was to opt out?  How much of that would be gone if they extend Brown now vs.  cap hold next year? 

Play the games and keep the possible cap to use before using bird rights to sign Brown.

They would likely have a number very near the MLE if Hayward opts out, so not enough to make it worth stringing Jaylen along.  If Hayward opts out AND you let Jaylen walk, you could do some things to get to a max, but is there anyone you’d like to max next summer?  It seems unlikely AD is an option.  You could probably pay Draymond Green a ton of money and get him here, but otherwise the top free agents are Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, and a bunch of restricted free agents, Jaylen included.

But the Celtics could then make a trade taking back more money up to the MLE. 

[philr13]

Getting a rookie extension doesn't mean getting a max contract. In fact, a rookie extension is only required to be 25% of max for that player. Brown's offer won't be that low, but it won't be anything like the offers to Simmons or Murray.

The trend among Celtics players (Smart, Rozier) has been to turn down the extension offer and become a restricted free-agent.

Brown may want to sign an extension however, rather than become a restricted free-agent in 2021. There will be a lot of elite unrestricted free agents that summer. He might be better off signing now rather than waiting.

[timpiker]

J Murray 5/$170m?? Ouch.

I like Jaylen but I'd rather move him than give him anything close to that kind of money.

When did 3-4 tier players start becoming max guys?

Exactly.  Brown has to show me a lot more before I'd have any idea what to offer.  Right now?  I'd offer half that.

[saltlover]

Would the Celtics have cap space next year if Hayward was to opt out?  How much of that would be gone if they extend Brown now vs.  cap hold next year? 

Play the games and keep the possible cap to use before using bird rights to sign Brown.

They would likely have a number very near the MLE if Hayward opts out, so not enough to make it worth stringing Jaylen along.  If Hayward opts out AND you let Jaylen walk, you could do some things to get to a max, but is there anyone you’d like to max next summer?  It seems unlikely AD is an option.  You could probably pay Draymond Green a ton of money and get him here, but otherwise the top free agents are Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, and a bunch of restricted free agents, Jaylen included.

But the Celtics could then make a trade taking back more money up to the MLE.

Right, but that’s not exceptionally different from being able to make a mid-sized trade now and take back an extra $5 million.

[RodyTur10]

I'd offer Brown 120/5. If he takes it fine, if not we have a year to see if we should match a max offer (which we probably have to).

[LilRip]

Brown absolutely will get the max. I think the C’s would be burning bridges should they offer him less. It doesn’t matter if his skill set right now merits a max. He has enough potential and interest around the league to warrant it.