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Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« on: July 08, 2019, 10:48:10 AM »

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I convinced myself the C's would relax with the team they've got after last year's drama....and enjoy the good vibes of Hayward coming back strong, enjoying his friendship with Kemba Walker.

Then this idea popped into my head.  It's probably been brought up before, but I didn't see it.

If Hayward is plugging along nicely, doing Hayward like things, facilitating, etc.  Would Indy do:

Myles Turner and TJ Warren for Gordon Hayward and Robert Williams?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3rjm8hp

The Pacers not only drafted Bitadze, they also signed Kyle O'Quinn.  That gives them Sabonis, Turner, O'Quinn, Bitadze, Leaf...  Lots of bigs.

They signed TJ Warren, but IMO he's not a starting caliber SF.  He's more of a bench scorer I think.  Good player but they can do better. 

Turner would be our starting PF next to Kanter.  Hayward starting SF, his natural position, in his home state.


Boston:
Kemba, Smart, Edwards
Brown, Edwards, Langford
Tatum, Warren, Semi
Turner, G. Williams, Semi
Kanter, Poirier, Theis


Indy:
Brogdon
Oladipo
Hayward
Sabonis, Robert Williams, Leaf
Bitadze/O'Quinn



Our future is Tatum.  And Tatum and Hayward, though swings, are really both pure SF's.  I think positionally we need the three point shooting Turner and his defense on this team, especially next to offense oriented Kanter.

Re: Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 10:53:37 AM »

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Didn’t O’Quinn sign with Philly?

I think Indy signed Jeremy Lamb.

I don’t think that we are going to be able to trade GH for anything valuable until he reestablishes his value.
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Re: Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 11:08:52 AM »

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Indy is a natural trade partner because they have too many bigs and we don't have enough. From a matching perspective, it would be a lot easier to trade for Sabonis than Turner. I'd rather have Turner than Sabonis, but I think Sabonis will cost less.
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Re: Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 11:16:21 AM »

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Dunno... if Hayward is back to form, we could make ourselves worse by trading him and probably make Indy better. Don't love that, even though Turner is real good. Sabonis is the more gettable big, possibly without costing too much, but still wouldn't be easy to obtain. Depends on what we look like a few months in. Indy wants to win in the playoffs.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 11:21:32 AM »

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If Hayward is doing Hayward stuff again, you basically add an All star to your roster, so why trade him for a non all star who played against us in the last postseason and did nothing especial?
If Hayward comes back to form, I think we should enjoy his abilities not trade him. His skill set is more valuable tô us than Turner's.
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If Hayward is doing Hayward stuff again, you basically add an All star to your roster, so why trade him for a non all star who played against us in the last postseason and did nothing especial?
If Hayward comes back to form, I think we should enjoy his abilities not trade him. His skill set is more valuable tô us than Turner's.
If Hayward returns to form, he's probably going to opt out after this season and potentially leave.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 12:47:06 PM »

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If Hayward is doing Hayward stuff again, you basically add an All star to your roster, so why trade him for a non all star who played against us in the last postseason and did nothing especial?
If Hayward comes back to form, I think we should enjoy his abilities not trade him. His skill set is more valuable tô us than Turner's.
If Hayward returns to form, he's probably going to opt out after this season and potentially leave.

That is not the end of the world if the jay's have stepped up.  Free up cash for a future FA contractthe next year.  Next years such though...so they would have to skip a year...

Re: Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 01:01:10 PM »

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Myles Turner (C) just as out of position at PF as Hayward (SF) is at PF.

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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2019, 04:28:44 PM »

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Thanks for all the good responses.

Yes, if Hayward is playing really well.  Trading him becomes undesirable.

As for above, If Turner cannot play PF, he could start at center next to Grant Williams.  Turner would get the green light on his above average 3 point shot from the Center position.


A starting caliber PF who can defend his man as well as the paint would be so great balance wise....Denver traded for Jerami Grant...Any of their PF's worth trading for? 




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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 04:33:50 PM »

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Didn’t O’Quinn sign with Philly?

I think Indy signed Jeremy Lamb.

I don’t think that we are going to be able to trade GH for anything valuable until he reestablishes his value.
darn you and your darned facts roy!! !! how can any of us have any fun if you make us all worry about reality??
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Re: Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 04:54:57 PM »

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Turner is a stud for them and I doubt he is on the block.

Re: Sensible and Doable in December? (Idea with Indy)
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2019, 10:50:08 PM »

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Didn’t O’Quinn sign with Philly?

I think Indy signed Jeremy Lamb.

I don’t think that we are going to be able to trade GH for anything valuable until he reestablishes his value.
darn you and your darned facts roy!! !! how can any of us have any fun if you make us all worry about reality??

Yes...When I said thanks for the good responses, I certainly didn't mean the one with the fact that killed the whole concept.   ;D