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Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "he's a poor mans draymond green"
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2019, 11:56:23 PM »

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look at this block.... amazing

It's true Williams is not above the rim.  But he has underrated athleticism. Functional. A guy who lacks athleticism/can't jump....can't block shots like this 

https://youtu.be/PkR54jCy3V0?t=101
#2 was against his new teammate.

this one below was even more impressive IMO.  He gets bumped by Edwards in mid air and still somehow gets a hand on the ball. wow 

It's like he can slow down the play.  It was injustice that this play wasn't the game ending play.  Then again if you an Edwards fan, it was nice that it went to OT lol. 

overall its cool to have these two on the same team.  They are probably going to lift lots of iron at the gym. Beasts

What a block by Grant on Carsen
https://youtu.be/c7rYdTLxXTA?t=319

Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2019, 12:05:07 AM »

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This is the old Draftexpress style strenghts and weaknessses analysis of Grant Williams. Very nicely done by the basketball writers.  There isn't one of Edwards or Langford.

Strengths of Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3I6unqUOlA

Improvements areas for Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joJGmmTYXtc


Williams two immediate areas of concerns are lateral quickess (decent but could be better) and extending range/speeding up long distance shooting touch

Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2019, 12:26:48 AM »

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This is the old Draftexpress style strenghts and weaknessses analysis of Grant Williams. Very nicely done by the basketball writers.  There isn't one of Edwards or Langford.

Strengths of Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3I6unqUOlA

Improvements areas for Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joJGmmTYXtc


Williams two immediate areas of concerns are lateral quickess (decent but could be better) and extending range/speeding up long distance shooting touch

He spoke on lateral quickness in a draft interview (I think it was), he said that was one of his main focus points along with the 3 point shooting (they said he has been 60% in training).
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Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2019, 12:33:42 AM »

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This is the old Draftexpress style strenghts and weaknessses analysis of Grant Williams. Very nicely done by the basketball writers.  There isn't one of Edwards or Langford.

Strengths of Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3I6unqUOlA

Improvements areas for Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joJGmmTYXtc


Williams two immediate areas of concerns are lateral quickess (decent but could be better) and extending range/speeding up long distance shooting touch

He spoke on lateral quickness in a draft interview (I think it was), he said that was one of his main focus points along with the 3 point shooting (they said he has been 60% in training).

good to hear this

I like this type of specifics vs

"I need to work on everything"

Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2019, 02:02:48 AM »

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This is the old Draftexpress style strenghts and weaknessses analysis of Grant Williams. Very nicely done by the basketball writers.  There isn't one of Edwards or Langford.

Strengths of Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3I6unqUOlA

Improvements areas for Grant Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joJGmmTYXtc


Williams two immediate areas of concerns are lateral quickess (decent but could be better) and extending range/speeding up long distance shooting touch

He spoke on lateral quickness in a draft interview (I think it was), he said that was one of his main focus points along with the 3 point shooting (they said he has been 60% in training).

good to hear this

I like this type of specifics vs

"I need to work on everything"
Also speaks volumes as to how NBA ready he is.
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Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2019, 07:18:22 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2019, 07:22:32 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).
He was the strongest person in the draft not named zion

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« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2019, 07:37:28 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

Sullinger ate his way out of the league. Williams is already in way better shape than Sully was ever in.

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« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2019, 07:40:36 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

I see a healthier Leon Powe. Sully lacked willpower.
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Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2019, 08:06:46 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

Also Sullinger bench pressed 185 pounds only 9 times

Grant did 20


Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2019, 08:12:48 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

Also Sullinger bench pressed 185 pounds only 9 times

Grant did 20

As an aside... 20 reps of 185 was the second strongest at the combine?

Iím not exactly a power lifter, but before I dislocated my shoulder I could do that easily. I considered my strength to be above average, but nowhere close to exceptional.

Is it the longer arms? Lack of strength training?
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Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2019, 08:51:04 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

Also Sullinger bench pressed 185 pounds only 9 times

Grant did 20

As an aside... 20 reps of 185 was the second strongest at the combine?

Iím not exactly a power lifter, but before I dislocated my shoulder I could do that easily. I considered my strength to be above average, but nowhere close to exceptional.

Is it the longer arms? Lack of strength training?

Much easier for some one with short arms to move the same weight.

Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2019, 09:11:18 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

I see a healthier Leon Powe. Sully lacked willpower.
I don't really see Leon Powe. Williams is a much better passer and shooter, and Powe was a better rebounder and more suited to defend bigs I think
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Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2019, 09:46:29 PM »

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I supposed Grant Wiliams could be the next Jared Sullinger.  Not a terrible pick for sure, but someone that could frustrate fans due to lack of athleticism (thus limiting his overall ceiling).

Iíve watched quite a bit of Grant at Tennessee.

I think Williams has a better sense of his strengths than Sully did.  Sully hucked threes, despite being a poor shooter... Iíd be surprised if we see anything like that from Grant.  He also has terrific court awareness at both ends, which makes up for his physical limits... to what extent, weíll find out. 

I think Paul Millsap is Williamsí perfect world upside.  Not sure how close he realistically gets to that though.  I like his game a lot, but we were able to get him at 22 for some valid reasons.


Re: Perk on Grant Williams: "He's a poor man's Draymond Green"
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2019, 11:03:06 PM »

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Some negatives about Grant Williams

He plays small as, he isn't that big. ( I can't really say a lot more on the negative side). I'm sure he'll figure it out, bu,t he will be "among the trees" when working inside in the NBA and he will not be leaping over them.

He is a superb team player.
Plays hard on defense and is in position.
He is fluid, will be difficult to push around inside despite his size.
He is a really impressive shooter.
Soft hands and solid shooting form.

Against Vanderbilt (who had a bad year). OT game
38 mins - 8 rebounds - 23 for 23 from the line - 43 points

Obviously, his best offensive game, but, listen, not many players anywhere or ever can hit 23 straight free throws in a legit conference game.

He also participated in the national chess championships which means we put him and Brown together on off days and we have the best chess team in the league.