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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2019, 05:29:03 PM »

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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2019, 05:41:20 PM »

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Pacers have to be dealing one of their bigs maybe Langford was their pick?

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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2019, 05:45:53 PM »

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Well, for our sake let's HOPE that this is the case.

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2019, 05:49:59 PM »

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Here comes Paul and Capella... Danny finally grabs his pg binkie from many years ago! 😁🤪 We give away Horford and Smart to get that and are cap strapped forever and ever afterwards! 

SI has an article on front page about our team

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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2019, 06:02:00 PM »

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Imagine its Kawhi. Just shocks the whole league and Danny goes full Red smoking cigars at games (ignoring in this fantasy world his heart issues.)

I'd straight up feint.

Now I'm back in the real world. It's probably Vuc or Russell. Honestly I'm conflicted. Not sure which way I want this to go. I'd want to maintain flexibility going forward, but you dont want to just waste your cap space. Ideally you would put pieces around the Jays that can help them optimize their talents.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2019, 06:03:39 PM »

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I still think there is a chance we trade with the Cavs and end up with Garland. Probably end up sending Brown out and also receiving Love or Thompson.

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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2019, 07:15:06 PM »

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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2019, 07:17:30 PM »

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I still think there is a chance we trade with the Cavs and end up with Garland. Probably end up sending Brown out and also receiving Love or Thompson.

Very interesting. How do we make salaries work though? Love is at 25 or 30m, right? Horford is not going there and they wont want Hayward.

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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2019, 07:18:56 PM »

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How about Towns and Wiggins for Williams, Hayward, Brown and Memphis pick? Would our cap space enable this deal to work cap wise? Sota trying to dump Wiggins. Maybe they regret signing Towns to such a big contract?

Or we could give them the Bucks pick to dump Wiggins, and take back Towns for the above assets assuming we don’t want Wiggins contract.

Dunno if Towns worth it really. Or whether Sota would give him without more back, such as more picks.

If we end up with a team with Tatum, Towns, and whatever, I would be very happy. I don't really care how we get to that point or the bad contracts we would have to take on, just having those two players to begin our rebuild would be incredible.

I do not think a "rebuild" is in the Celtics future.  I think both Ainge and Stevens want to challenge for the Eastern Conference again next year.

Then he would've went all in on Anthony Davis, re-sign Kyrie Irving. Next season would have been win or bust for the Celtics.
There’s just no way we could have competed with that AD offer from the Lakers though. So regardless we would have not gotten him, unless we traded all three of Tatum, Brown and the MEM pick, which would have been an awful trade.

Also Kyrie clearly has no intention of staying here from the way Boston has acted. We can’t just re-sign him
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2019, 07:54:40 PM »

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I still think there is a chance we trade with the Cavs and end up with Garland. Probably end up sending Brown out and also receiving Love or Thompson.

Very interesting. How do we make salaries work though? Love is at 25 or 30m, right? Horford is not going there and they wont want Hayward.

We have more than enough space to absorb Love, but not necessarily crazy about that idea. Brown for Garland and Love...hmmm, but at least you get 4 years of rookie contract compared compared to Brown’s ‘expiring’.

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2019, 07:58:10 PM »

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How about Towns and Wiggins for Williams, Hayward, Brown and Memphis pick? Would our cap space enable this deal to work cap wise? Sota trying to dump Wiggins. Maybe they regret signing Towns to such a big contract?

Or we could give them the Bucks pick to dump Wiggins, and take back Towns for the above assets assuming we don’t want Wiggins contract.

Dunno if Towns worth it really. Or whether Sota would give him without more back, such as more picks.

If we end up with a team with Tatum, Towns, and whatever, I would be very happy. I don't really care how we get to that point or the bad contracts we would have to take on, just having those two players to begin our rebuild would be incredible.

I do not think a "rebuild" is in the Celtics future.  I think both Ainge and Stevens want to challenge for the Eastern Conference again next year.

Then he would've went all in on Anthony Davis, re-sign Kyrie Irving. Next season would have been win or bust for the Celtics.
There’s just no way we could have competed with that AD offer from the Lakers though. So regardless we would have not gotten him, unless we traded all three of Tatum, Brown and the MEM pick, which would have been an awful trade.

Also Kyrie clearly has no intention of staying here from the way Boston has acted. We can’t just re-sign him

They'd easily destroy the Lakers offer with Tatum. If Davis is here that 99% means Irving stays. Now you just hope dang well the Celtics win it all in 2019-2020. After that, AD goes to LA and the Celtics are left with nothing.


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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2019, 08:18:45 PM »

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How about Towns and Wiggins for Williams, Hayward, Brown and Memphis pick? Would our cap space enable this deal to work cap wise? Sota trying to dump Wiggins. Maybe they regret signing Towns to such a big contract?

Or we could give them the Bucks pick to dump Wiggins, and take back Towns for the above assets assuming we don’t want Wiggins contract.

Dunno if Towns worth it really. Or whether Sota would give him without more back, such as more picks.

If we end up with a team with Tatum, Towns, and whatever, I would be very happy. I don't really care how we get to that point or the bad contracts we would have to take on, just having those two players to begin our rebuild would be incredible.

I do not think a "rebuild" is in the Celtics future.  I think both Ainge and Stevens want to challenge for the Eastern Conference again next year.

Then he would've went all in on Anthony Davis, re-sign Kyrie Irving. Next season would have been win or bust for the Celtics.
There’s just no way we could have competed with that AD offer from the Lakers though. So regardless we would have not gotten him, unless we traded all three of Tatum, Brown and the MEM pick, which would have been an awful trade.

Also Kyrie clearly has no intention of staying here from the way Boston has acted. We can’t just re-sign him

They'd easily destroy the Lakers offer with Tatum. If Davis is here that 99% means Irving stays. Now you just hope dang well the Celtics win it all in 2019-2020. After that, AD goes to LA and the Celtics are left with nothing.
No they wouldn't. Draft picks until 2025 is something we simply could not compete with because it's a huge overpay.
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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2019, 08:28:15 PM »

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How about Towns and Wiggins for Williams, Hayward, Brown and Memphis pick? Would our cap space enable this deal to work cap wise? Sota trying to dump Wiggins. Maybe they regret signing Towns to such a big contract?

Or we could give them the Bucks pick to dump Wiggins, and take back Towns for the above assets assuming we don’t want Wiggins contract.

Dunno if Towns worth it really. Or whether Sota would give him without more back, such as more picks.

If we end up with a team with Tatum, Towns, and whatever, I would be very happy. I don't really care how we get to that point or the bad contracts we would have to take on, just having those two players to begin our rebuild would be incredible.

I do not think a "rebuild" is in the Celtics future.  I think both Ainge and Stevens want to challenge for the Eastern Conference again next year.

Then he would've went all in on Anthony Davis, re-sign Kyrie Irving. Next season would have been win or bust for the Celtics.
There’s just no way we could have competed with that AD offer from the Lakers though. So regardless we would have not gotten him, unless we traded all three of Tatum, Brown and the MEM pick, which would have been an awful trade.

Also Kyrie clearly has no intention of staying here from the way Boston has acted. We can’t just re-sign him

They'd easily destroy the Lakers offer with Tatum. If Davis is here that 99% means Irving stays. Now you just hope dang well the Celtics win it all in 2019-2020. After that, AD goes to LA and the Celtics are left with nothing.
No they wouldn't. Draft picks until 2025 is something we simply could not compete with because it's a huge overpay.

Including Tatum and the Memphis pick would have been so much more valuable than Ball and 1 Lakers pick, that I'm sure we wouldn't need to spread other picks over until 2025.

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2019, 08:35:20 PM »

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I don't see any evidence that there's a deal in place. 


I think the team is going back into asset accumulation mode now that contending is no longer on the table.  Danny is going to try to utilize the cap space the team has in order to add assets that may be useful for executing trades over the next few years.
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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2019, 08:38:23 PM »

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How about Towns and Wiggins for Williams, Hayward, Brown and Memphis pick? Would our cap space enable this deal to work cap wise? Sota trying to dump Wiggins. Maybe they regret signing Towns to such a big contract?

Or we could give them the Bucks pick to dump Wiggins, and take back Towns for the above assets assuming we don’t want Wiggins contract.

Dunno if Towns worth it really. Or whether Sota would give him without more back, such as more picks.

If we end up with a team with Tatum, Towns, and whatever, I would be very happy. I don't really care how we get to that point or the bad contracts we would have to take on, just having those two players to begin our rebuild would be incredible.

I do not think a "rebuild" is in the Celtics future.  I think both Ainge and Stevens want to challenge for the Eastern Conference again next year.

Then he would've went all in on Anthony Davis, re-sign Kyrie Irving. Next season would have been win or bust for the Celtics.
There’s just no way we could have competed with that AD offer from the Lakers though. So regardless we would have not gotten him, unless we traded all three of Tatum, Brown and the MEM pick, which would have been an awful trade.

Also Kyrie clearly has no intention of staying here from the way Boston has acted. We can’t just re-sign him

They'd easily destroy the Lakers offer with Tatum. If Davis is here that 99% means Irving stays. Now you just hope dang well the Celtics win it all in 2019-2020. After that, AD goes to LA and the Celtics are left with nothing.
No they wouldn't. Draft picks until 2025 is something we simply could not compete with because it's a huge overpay.

Including Tatum and the Memphis pick would have been so much more valuable than Ball and 1 Lakers pick, that I'm sure we wouldn't need to spread other picks over until 2025.
I dunno about that. The #4 pick holds lots of value, and if Ingram can get healthy he's a very good prospect too. I'd probably view the packages as equal, but I think New Orleans would like it more because they will have easy cap control over a consistent stream of first round picks.

Plus, considering Kyrie was continuing to give off signs that he wanted to leave, what would the point have been? It's easy to say "just re-sign him", but that has to be a consensual thing, which it seemingly is not. So we would have emptied the war-chest to outbid LA, only for AD to leave us most likely in the end. I was pro-AD for quite a while, but the continued anti-Celtics vibes he gives off gave me pause.
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